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| What behavior issues have you tried to solve with the patience post, how long did you leave them tied and did it work? |
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Location: Illinois | I don't really leave mine tied for hours and hours like a lot of people. Most of the time I don't think it teaches them anything. I have trees I tie them to and I leave my 4 year old tied while she's cooling out, which is usually when I ride my other one. Or if I need to clean her stall or something I'll throw her out there. She's broken some things on my trailer so she gets the tree now. She gets very impatient at feed time so sometimes I'll leave her tied to the tree while everyone else gets fed. When she stops throwing a tantrum she gets her food. There are times when I have tied her up for longer periods when we have a lot going on at the barn, just to prep her for standing at the trailer all day at barrel races. Her issue is just impatience and she'll bunny hop rear or dig a hole while tied. She's pulled back a couple times as well. |
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Location: North Dakota | IMO, one single day is not going to make a difference. It sometimes takes weeks, or months.
And in my mind, the only "behavior issues" that are being addressed while having them tied, is tying!
For example, I had Dexter all summer, starting in May. He paws terrible when he is tied at the trailer alone. He never pulls back or anything but just paws a hole to chine and has dented up my fender. Finally... the last couple weeks he barely paws at all. It's taken him all summer (5 months) of being tied to the trailer every single day for an hour or two (while I ride my other horse) and going to shows/races on the weekends, to finally figure out that pawing is a waste of his energy and he should just stand quietly.
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| I don't start it until they are 2 and I start them. Saddle them and tie them out for 30min to an hour. Ride and then unsaddle and tie back out for another 30min to an hour. I don't really worry about if they are holding still, that will come. I think miles makes one stand quite, not being tied for hours.
If I get an older horse in that doesn't want to hold still while being tied, I work them first and then tie them out and won't untie them until they are standing quite. If that still doesn't have an effect on them, I just hobble them at the trailer and call it good. |
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Location: WYOMING | Its not duration that trains a horse its repetition. |
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Location: somewhere up north | geronabean - 2018-10-01 11:36 AM Its not duration that trains a horse its repetition.
This! We tie our colts and training horses up every single day. They get saddled and tied up. We have a couple options to tie them. One is a chain from the ceiling so if they want to pull back or not stand still they can walk in circles until they learn to stand still. Then we tie them to the wall or the trailer. Sometimes it's one hour, sometimes it's two and they get worked in between it. Yesterday we had colts tied up for about 4-5 hours because we were home and working around the place. I can't stand a horse that we take to a show and tie to the trailer and all they do is worry about their buddy and paw. |
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Location: SW MO | I had one that did not want to stand to saddle and had pulled back in the past. He also was very headstrong under saddle and was crow hopping when he didn't want to work. I saddled him after work and left him 3-4 hours (keeping an eye on him and checking frequently). I did this daily/almost daily for weeks. He was great after that. |
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Location: Deep South | FlyingJT - 2018-10-01 11:04 AM I don't start it until they are 2 and I start them. Saddle them and tie them out for 30min to an hour. Ride and then unsaddle and tie back out for another 30min to an hour. I don't really worry about if they are holding still, that will come. I think miles makes one stand quite, not being tied for hours. If I get an older horse in that doesn't want to hold still while being tied, I work them first and then tie them out and won't untie them until they are standing quite. If that still doesn't have an effect on them, I just hobble them at the trailer and call it good.
I think this is so important and often overlooked. Tying them back up after you are finished training for the day. I call it letting them "marinate." Lol! I truly feel like they soak up so much more of what we covered when they are forced to sit there for a few minutes rather than the reward of being put away immediately. |
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Location: SW MO | BamaCanChaser - 2018-10-01 3:23 PM
FlyingJT - 2018-10-01 11:04 AM I don't start it until they are 2 and I start them. Saddle them and tie them out for 30min to an hour. Ride and then unsaddle and tie back out for another 30min to an hour. I don't really worry about if they are holding still, that will come. I think miles makes one stand quite, not being tied for hours. If I get an older horse in that doesn't want to hold still while being tied, I work them first and then tie them out and won't untie them until they are standing quite. If that still doesn't have an effect on them, I just hobble them at the trailer and call it good.
I think this is so important and often overlooked. Tying them back up after you are finished training for the day. I call it letting them "marinate." Lol! I truly feel like they soak up so much more of what we covered when they are forced to sit there for a few minutes rather than the reward of being put away immediately.
THIS as well. Really makes a difference. |
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Location: MN | Mzbradford - 2018-10-01 3:26 PM BamaCanChaser - 2018-10-01 3:23 PM FlyingJT - 2018-10-01 11:04 AM I don't start it until they are 2 and I start them. Saddle them and tie them out for 30min to an hour. Ride and then unsaddle and tie back out for another 30min to an hour. I don't really worry about if they are holding still, that will come. I think miles makes one stand quite, not being tied for hours. If I get an older horse in that doesn't want to hold still while being tied, I work them first and then tie them out and won't untie them until they are standing quite. If that still doesn't have an effect on them, I just hobble them at the trailer and call it good. I think this is so important and often overlooked. Tying them back up after you are finished training for the day. I call it letting them "marinate." Lol! I truly feel like they soak up so much more of what we covered when they are forced to sit there for a few minutes rather than the reward of being put away immediately. THIS as well. Really makes a difference.
Ditto to all of this. It really does work like a charm if you stick to it! |
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