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Lisantwist
Reg. Dec 2003
Posted 2018-10-01 8:43 PM
Subject: Flat backed horse



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 What saddles have you had success with on flat backed horses?  The dip behind their shoulder that a lot of horses has, he does not.  It's hard to fit him.  Of course I will try them on him, etc before purchasing but would like to narrow the field down a bit.  Thanks!
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Southtxponygirl
Reg. Nov 2006
Posted 2018-10-01 9:18 PM
Subject: RE: Flat backed horse



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Are saying this horse is mutton withered? Maybe try a Double J wide with a 1/2 pad. Are CJ by cactus, they are pretty wide. 

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Lisantwist
Reg. Dec 2003
Posted 2018-10-01 9:39 PM
Subject: RE: Flat backed horse



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Southtxponygirl - 2018-10-01 7:18 PM

Are saying this horse is mutton withered? Maybe try a Double J wide with a 1/2 pad. Are CJ by cactus, they are pretty wide. 

I tried a CJ by Cactus. Was too wide. It sat on his shoulders and left huge dry marks. I have an Ammerman Angel Kisses on him but I can't ride in it for crap . I am going to try to get the seat replaced with new rough out (it is worn to basically a slick seat, there is nothing left to rough back up). Also tried a Crown C Martin on him and too wide. My Billy Cook sored him up. I know each maker has different trees, etc.

He isn't mutton withered, he has obvious withers. But where a lot of other horses have a dip behind their shoulder (next to their withers I guess), he is flat. There is no indent.
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Lisantwist
Reg. Dec 2003
Posted 2018-10-01 9:42 PM
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 I will try to get a pic from up above of him.  
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Southtxponygirl
Reg. Nov 2006
Posted 2018-10-01 9:44 PM
Subject: RE: Flat backed horse



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Lisantwist - 2018-10-01 9:39 PM
Southtxponygirl - 2018-10-01 7:18 PM Are saying this horse is mutton withered? Maybe try a Double J wide with a 1/2 pad. Are CJ by cactus, they are pretty wide. 
I tried a CJ by Cactus. Was too wide. It sat on his shoulders and left huge dry marks. I have an Ammerman Angel Kisses on him but I can't ride in it for crap . I am going to try to get the seat replaced with new rough out (it is worn to basically a slick seat, there is nothing left to rough back up). Also tried a Crown C Martin on him and too wide. My Billy Cook sored him up. I know each maker has different trees, etc. He isn't mutton withered, he has obvious withers. But where a lot of other horses have a dip behind their shoulder (next to their withers I guess), he is flat. There is no indent.

Sounds like you need a saddle with very little rock or no rock at all. Do you have any pictures of your horse?  What was the gullet size in the Crown C? 
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Southtxponygirl
Reg. Nov 2006
Posted 2018-10-01 9:46 PM
Subject: RE: Flat backed horse



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Opps you beat me to asking about a picture,  

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Lisantwist
Reg. Dec 2003
Posted 2018-10-01 9:50 PM
Subject: RE: Flat backed horse



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Southtxponygirl - 2018-10-01 7:44 PM
Lisantwist - 2018-10-01 9:39 PM
Southtxponygirl - 2018-10-01 7:18 PM Are saying this horse is mutton withered? Maybe try a Double J wide with a 1/2 pad. Are CJ by cactus, they are pretty wide. 
I tried a CJ by Cactus. Was too wide. It sat on his shoulders and left huge dry marks. I have an Ammerman Angel Kisses on him but I can't ride in it for crap . I am going to try to get the seat replaced with new rough out (it is worn to basically a slick seat, there is nothing left to rough back up). Also tried a Crown C Martin on him and too wide. My Billy Cook sored him up. I know each maker has different trees, etc. He isn't mutton withered, he has obvious withers. But where a lot of other horses have a dip behind their shoulder (next to their withers I guess), he is flat. There is no indent.
Sounds like you need a saddle with very little rock or no rock at all. Do you have any pictures of your horse?  What was the gullet size in the Crown C? 

 It was an 8" gullet, axis tree.
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Southtxponygirl
Reg. Nov 2006
Posted 2018-10-01 9:59 PM
Subject: RE: Flat backed horse



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Lisantwist - 2018-10-01 9:50 PM
Southtxponygirl - 2018-10-01 7:44 PM
Lisantwist - 2018-10-01 9:39 PM
Southtxponygirl - 2018-10-01 7:18 PM Are saying this horse is mutton withered? Maybe try a Double J wide with a 1/2 pad. Are CJ by cactus, they are pretty wide. 
I tried a CJ by Cactus. Was too wide. It sat on his shoulders and left huge dry marks. I have an Ammerman Angel Kisses on him but I can't ride in it for crap . I am going to try to get the seat replaced with new rough out (it is worn to basically a slick seat, there is nothing left to rough back up). Also tried a Crown C Martin on him and too wide. My Billy Cook sored him up. I know each maker has different trees, etc. He isn't mutton withered, he has obvious withers. But where a lot of other horses have a dip behind their shoulder (next to their withers I guess), he is flat. There is no indent.
Sounds like you need a saddle with very little rock or no rock at all. Do you have any pictures of your horse?  What was the gullet size in the Crown C? 
 It was an 8" gullet, axis tree.

Oh thats pretty wide, I would try a standard crown c and see how that works, for some reason I was thinking wide when I first read your thread. But I would try the standard first.. try calling Felicia Carlton in Tn, she has a ad on the saddles for sale page shes got a saddle store and I have heard really good things about her and shes really good at fitting saddles I hear also. Shes got a lot of saddles and she may beable to help you out. 
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Lisantwist
Reg. Dec 2003
Posted 2018-10-01 10:01 PM
Subject: RE: Flat backed horse



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 I hate the 100 size limit.  I have a pic on my phone but can't get it small enough to get on here.
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Southtxponygirl
Reg. Nov 2006
Posted 2018-10-01 10:31 PM
Subject: RE: Flat backed horse



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Lisantwist - 2018-10-01 10:01 PM  I hate the 100 size limit.  I have a pic on my phone but can't get it small enough to get on here.

If you would like to send the picture to me I will try to load it on here for you so maybe others will see it and they can give you their opinons too, I'll pm my email to you.  
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Barnmom
Reg. May 2006
Posted 2018-10-01 10:40 PM
Subject: RE: Flat backed horse



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ridejg
Reg. Jan 2009
Posted 2018-10-01 10:53 PM
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I have heard that the Lisa Lockhart Fearless, from Martin Saddlery is good for wide, and flat backs.
I have the Stingray, and it fits my low withered flat back mare good.
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Gunnin to Play
Reg. Nov 2005
Posted 2018-10-02 9:11 AM
Subject: RE: Flat backed horse


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ridejg - 2018-10-01 10:53 PM

I have heard that the Lisa Lockhart Fearless, from Martin Saddlery is good for wide, and flat backs.
I have the Stingray, and it fits my low withered flat back mare good.

I was wondering about those. I have a mare with NO withers but it pretty wide for her size. My FX3 just isn't fitting her like I want it to.
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SmokinGirlie
Reg. Jun 2006
Posted 2018-10-02 9:23 AM
Subject: RE: Flat backed horse



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I got a custom made pad to level her back out, and pressure relief over her giant should area. Paired with an older Coats.  

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LindsayJordan
Reg. Jun 2010
Posted 2018-10-04 9:29 AM
Subject: RE: Flat backed horse



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SmokinGirlie - 2018-10-02 9:23 AM

I got a custom made pad to level her back out, and pressure relief over her giant should area. Paired with an older Coats.  

Where did you get the pad from?
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SmokinGirlie
Reg. Jun 2006
Posted 2018-10-04 3:01 PM
Subject: RE: Flat backed horse



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LindsayJordan - 2018-10-04 9:29 AM
SmokinGirlie - 2018-10-02 9:23 AM I got a custom made pad to level her back out, and pressure relief over her giant should area. Paired with an older Coats.  
Where did you get the pad from?

 Team Equine Brand and I worked through The Right Fit Saddle Fitting to customize it. 
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Mainer-racer
Reg. Oct 2004
Posted 2018-10-04 3:12 PM
Subject: RE: Flat backed horse



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ridejg - 2018-10-01 11:53 PM I have heard that the Lisa Lockhart Fearless, from Martin Saddlery is good for wide, and flat backs.

I have the Stingray, and it fits my low withered flat back mare good.

I have a flat backed horse. I had the Stingray on her and it didn't seem to fit in the shoulders, just a bit too tight.  I switched to the Fearless and it fit her so much better!  It's nothing like the Lockhart Circle Y version.
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