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Bear - 2019-01-24 10:05 AM

To those of you who are seriously interested in the direction liberals want this country to take, I have an excellent book to suggest you consider reading: “The Road to Serfdom”, by Freidrich Hayek. Hayek first published this book around the end of WWII.
It is not a real fast read, because you have to really read and absorb his message.
He led a fascinating life, and his contributions to economics are legendary.

Here is one of his many noteworthy quotes:
“I am certain that nothing has done so much to destroy the juridical safeguards of individual freedom as the striving after this mirage of social justice.”

Pelosi and the Progressive Liberal Democrat Party want two things that simply cannot co-exist, without leading to eventual complete collapse. For purposes of securing power, they want free immigration and a greater welfare state. You don’t have to be a Nobel laureate to understand how this will doom us to the ash heap of history.

I’m saying this doesn’t apply merely to means-tested welfare programs such as food stamps, Medicaid, and public housing, but to the entire Obamunist “redistributive” transfer state. Under Obamunism, government taxes the upper middle class and shifts some $1.5 trillion in economic resources to lower-income groups through a vast variety benefits and subsidies. Across the globe, this sort of economic redistribution is the largest, if not the predominant, function of government in so-called “advanced” societies.

Here’s how Pelosi and her merry band of social justice warriors see this working: The transfer state (government) redistributes funds from those with high-skill and high-income levels to those with lower skill levels. Low-skill immigrants become natural recipients in this process. On average, low-skill immigrant families receive over $30K per year in government benefits and services while paying less than $10K in taxes, creating a net fiscal deficit of about $20K that has to be paid by higher-income taxpayers. We are doing this now with our own citizen-indigents.....they want this to multiply, not on the basis of “humanitarianism”. Let’s be honest. They want it purely to further secure political power, and wealth for rich liberal plutocrats. Immigrants who would be a direct economic burden upon citizens through the public coffers should have no claim to be admitted into the nation. They are brainwashed into believing this is a God given right. Liberals, at the direction of their wealthy handlers, promote an immigration policy which grants citizenship to vast numbers of low-skill, low-income immigrants not only creates new beneficiaries for government transfers, but new voters likely to support even greater transfers in the future. They want to streamline this influx by enabling illegal immigration as a shortcut to citizenship.
This enhanced granting of citizenship amounts to a transfer of political power. Access to the U.S. ballot box also provides access to the American taxpayer's bank account. This is particularly problematic with regard to low-skill illegal immigrants. Within an active Obamunist-redistributionist state, unlimited immigration can threaten limited government.....one of the key pillars to real conservatism. Some “moderates” see this as a basic compromise solution: Borders should be open, but immigrants should be barred from accessing welfare and other benefits. If you believe this, then I have a bridge in Brooklyn I’d like to sell you.

Currently some 12-20 million illegal immigrants (60 percent of whom are high-school dropouts) access to Social Security, Medicare, and, over time, to 60 federal means-tested welfare programs. Opening borders with the redistributionist state still intact will result in a larger and more confiscatory government.....anyone paying attention to Ocasio-Cortez-Cortez and her 70% tax on the very wealthy? Has anyone run the math on her air-head proposal?

Power-hungry Progressive Liberal plutocrats understand that a steady stream of low-skill immigrants will help him build a much larger, tax-fueled massively bloated government.

In the end, we will have lived on that “Road to Serfdom”, when theory becomes reality.


Socialism IS Communism Lite!
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Frodo
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Posted 2019-01-24 12:37 PM
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.....and to add to it if you look at FoxNews website right now the Feds have ID'd more than 100 Salvadoran criminals at the border in this immigrant wave. 
 
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jd&ez
Reg. Oct 2003
Posted 2019-01-26 3:09 PM
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I'm no fan of Pelosi but wherever she is traveling she owned Trump. Disinvited him for the state of the union, forced him to blink on the shutdown.

Of course Trump had this master plan to lay off the government workers permanently and that was why he forced the shutdown. He lost that master plan too.

Trump should have read that book, what's it called? The Art of the Deal? No wait!!


Faux News is falling apart. They don't know how to report this. Everytime they make something up Trump runs the other way.  
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ridejg
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Posted 2019-01-26 5:25 PM
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jd&ez - 2019-01-26 3:09 PM I'm no fan of Pelosi but wherever she is traveling she owned Trump. Disinvited him for the state of the union, forced him to blink on the shutdown.



Of course Trump had this master plan to lay off the government workers permanently and that was why he forced the shutdown. He lost that master plan too.



Trump should have read that book, what's it called? The Art of the Deal? No wait!!




Faux News is falling apart. They don't know how to report this. Everytime they make something up Trump runs the other way.  

Forced President Trump to blink ?? I hardly think so...more like taking a deep breath and RELOADING!! 
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Reg. Dec 2003
Posted 2019-01-26 6:21 PM
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jd&ez - 2019-01-26 2:09 PM

I'm no fan of Pelosi but wherever she is traveling she owned Trump. Disinvited him for the state of the union, forced him to blink on the shutdown.

Of course Trump had this master plan to lay off the government workers permanently and that was why he forced the shutdown. He lost that master plan too.

Trump should have read that book, what's it called? The Art of the Deal? No wait!!


Faux News is falling apart. They don't know how to report this. Everytime they make something up Trump runs the other way.  

You and I are obviously not looking at the same news sources. Pelosi is clearly showing that she could give a rats ass about the American people. She only cares about her own agenda and people paying her off...like the drug cartels.

Trump was the one to give 800,000 people a paycheck so they could feed their families while Pelosi was going to let them continue to starve. I hope he has some wicked trick up his sleeve to prove to the lunatic liberals what an evil and corrupted b!tch Pelosi truly is. The woman is evil through and through.
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Posted 2019-01-26 7:04 PM
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ridejg - 2019-01-26 5:25 PM

jd&ez - 2019-01-26 3:09 PM I'm no fan of Pelosi but wherever she is traveling she owned Trump. Disinvited him for the state of the union, forced him to blink on the shutdown.



Of course Trump had this master plan to lay off the government workers permanently and that was why he forced the shutdown. He lost that master plan too.



Trump should have read that book, what's it called? The Art of the Deal? No wait!!




Faux News is falling apart. They don't know how to report this. Everytime they make something up Trump runs the other way.  

Forced President Trump to blink ?? I hardly think so...more like taking a deep breath and RELOADING!! 

Love this^^^
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Posted 2019-01-26 7:48 PM
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jd&ez - 2019-01-26 3:09 PM

I'm no fan of Pelosi but wherever she is traveling she owned Trump. Disinvited him for the state of the union, forced him to blink on the shutdown.

Of course Trump had this master plan to lay off the government workers permanently and that was why he forced the shutdown. He lost that master plan too.

Trump should have read that book, what's it called? The Art of the Deal? No wait!!


Faux News is falling apart. They don't know how to report this. Everytime they make something up Trump runs the other way.  

Master plan really what planet do you live on?
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OregonBR
Reg. Dec 2003
Posted 2019-01-26 8:36 PM
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jd&ez - 2019-01-26 1:09 PM

I'm no fan of Pelosi but wherever she is traveling she owned Trump. Disinvited him for the state of the union, forced him to blink on the shutdown.

Of course Trump had this master plan to lay off the government workers permanently and that was why he forced the shutdown. He lost that master plan too.

Trump should have read that book, what's it called? The Art of the Deal? No wait!!


Faux News is falling apart. They don't know how to report this. Everytime they make something up Trump runs the other way.  

You think this is over? Why oh WHY don't people read and listen to what he says. He wants to pay the people. In 21 days if congress hasn't done their job, the hammer drops.
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Southtxponygirl
Reg. Nov 2006
Posted 2019-01-26 8:49 PM
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OregonBR - 2019-01-26 8:36 PM
jd&ez - 2019-01-26 1:09 PM I'm no fan of Pelosi but wherever she is traveling she owned Trump. Disinvited him for the state of the union, forced him to blink on the shutdown.

Of course Trump had this master plan to lay off the government workers permanently and that was why he forced the shutdown. He lost that master plan too.

Trump should have read that book, what's it called? The Art of the Deal? No wait!!


Faux News is falling apart. They don't know how to report this. Everytime they make something up Trump runs the other way.  
You think this is over? Why oh WHY don't people read and listen to what he says. He wants to pay the people. In 21 days if congress hasn't done their job, the hammer drops.
Because these ding-dongs dont want to hear all the good that hes doing, so they just listen or read all the hate about him, the crazy dems hate that hes liked and loved and cant stand the thought of someone saying anything good about Trump.They dont want to hear the real truth about what Trump has and is doing for the US. They are so full of hate {dems} they cant see the good in this man. Just a bunch of JEALOUS jerks..
Edited to add: Or,,, they the Dems make up a bunch of lies about Trump and his team so people can keep on the hating, even when Trump is out doing most of the other Presidents the Dems will make up something else to lie about..They are so full of hate and jealousy..Pelosi is a old and hateful and bitter person.. 


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Gator Bug
Reg. Oct 2003
Posted 2019-01-27 7:34 AM
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jd&ez - 2019-01-26 3:09 PM I'm no fan of Pelosi but wherever she is traveling she owned Trump. Disinvited him for the state of the union, forced him to blink on the shutdown.

Of course Trump had this master plan to lay off the government workers permanently and that was why he forced the shutdown. He lost that master plan too.

Trump should have read that book, what's it called? The Art of the Deal? No wait!!


Faux News is falling apart. They don't know how to report this. Everytime they make something up Trump runs the other way.  


Faux News = Fox News?

Really? What about the Liberal/Main Stream Media? Every other channel under the sun. They were just sooo accurate this past week. The Catholic School and the protests with the Indian? Oh, that was real accurate. I think that school was in Covington, KY. The death threats and all that they got was based on 'fake news'. The MSM had to walk that back. And the ones that would not, just went on a rant about the MAGA hats being 'racist' trying to justify, but not on facts. And let's not forget... the Buzzfeed piece that Mueller had to come out and dispute. That is just the recent stuff.

Just tell me what is 'fake news' or 'faux news'? 

I would not be dancing in the end zone just yet. It is only a 3 week reprieve. And when the Dems don't negotiate within the 3 weeks, then what? They are resisting on things they supposedly supported under Obama. They just hate it now because it is Trump. After 3 weeks of reprieve and the Dems won't negotiate then either. Then Trump will probably declare a National Security Emergency and get the money elsewhere. What did Obama do to get the money to pay Iran about millions/billions for 4 hostages? Where did he get that actual cash to put on a plane in the middle of the night? He sure didn't go to Congress for it. But, that is fine as it was Obama. But I guess that is just 'tin foil hat' stuff, to borrow your well repeated phrase. That was actual reports.

The Dems and the very Liberal media are just fighting/hating Trump. I swear they put out talking points daily as it is one big echo chamber when you watch any MSM. No principle, no care for actual Citizens. 

If you really don't care for Pelosi, maybe AOC is more your speed. Since AOC 'babbles' with no actual thought so much and the world will end in 12 years due to climate change; what Trump does now won't really matter. Or maybe, Elizabeth Warren is your speed? Just keep going further to the Left and we will see exactly what Socialism or Facism does. Take a look at Venezuela. 


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Posted 2019-01-27 8:45 AM
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 JD&EZ...not up yet this morning?

I also didn't see any of your or your other 'Lefty' friends' posts on the 'NY New Law' thread. Did I miss those posts by overlooking all the negative posts to late term/partial abortion ones that were out there? Obama agreed with late term/partial abortion as well. He was so 'agreeable' that you must have been right with him. Agree with that as your proclaimed self as a 'conservative/moderate' Dem/Lib? That Law might be right up your alley. The Dem/Libs all just LOVE that NY New Law. If the Party is so moderate, you must go along with it? Right?


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Just in case the viewers of liberal media need to be brought up to date, the caravan traveling from Central America has grown to 12,000 and the Mexican government is helping them with their journey to the U.S. border after hinting (lying) to Pres. Trump they would stop them.  This is the part where all federal aid to Mexico should be halted.   Some of these migrants I saw on FOX this morning were wearing bandanas across their faces, I would say because these countries are emptying out their prisons and they'd rather not be recognized just yet.    As Castro put it during the Cuban boatlift where Jimmy Carter sat on his butt and did nothing to stop illegal Cuban migrants "I have flushed my toilets into America."  Castro emptied his mental institutions and prisons into our country.  
 

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Posted 2019-01-27 11:53 AM
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Frodo - 2019-01-27 11:37 AM Just in case the viewers of liberal media need to be brought up to date, the caravan traveling from Central America has grown to 12,000 and the Mexican government is helping them with their journey to the U.S. border after hinting (lying) to Pres. Trump they would stop them.  This is the part where all federal aid to Mexico should be halted.   Some of these migrants I saw on FOX this morning were wearing bandanas across their faces, I would say because these countries are emptying out their prisons and they'd rather not be recognized just yet.    As Castro put it during the Cuban boatlift where Jimmy Carter sat on his butt and did nothing to stop illegal Cuban migrants "I have flushed my toilets into America."  Castro emptied his mental institutions and prisons into our country.  
 
Oh Frodo... While I agree and saw the same thing... You are quoting 'faux news'. In the Dem/Libs' minds, it is not true. JD&EZ will tell you so. The caravans are a 'manufactured crisis'. No worries. Un-huh.

I also saw that the Daily Telegraph had to pay damages to Melania Trump for a FAKE/UNTRUE story. That was even in The Washington Post! Oh the horror of it all...'fake news'. Just terrible.

But, JD&EZ hasn't told me exactly just WHAT is 'fake/faux news'. 

They must have over slept or just did a 'drive-by' post. Take your pick for an excuse.


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Posted 2019-01-27 12:05 PM
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Frodo - 2019-01-27 11:37 AM Just in case the viewers of liberal media need to be brought up to date, the caravan traveling from Central America has grown to 12,000 and the Mexican government is helping them with their journey to the U.S. border after hinting (lying) to Pres. Trump they would stop them.  This is the part where all federal aid to Mexico should be halted.   Some of these migrants I saw on FOX this morning were wearing bandanas across their faces, I would say because these countries are emptying out their prisons and they'd rather not be recognized just yet.    As Castro put it during the Cuban boatlift where Jimmy Carter sat on his butt and did nothing to stop illegal Cuban migrants "I have flushed my toilets into America."  Castro emptied his mental institutions and prisons into our country.  

 

I think since the Dems are fighting OUR PRESIDENT and the migrants from all over central america {the good and bad} knows this, they know they will be welcome by all the dems {Thank You Nancy} and get all the free handouts they are offering to all the illegals here in the States..This has really cause these migrants to group up and flood our state and take avavaged of what is going to be offered to them once they are here..They dont need to come over here the right way,WHY when the Democrates want them over here illegaly..They {Illegals} know they can get away with this, the Democrats has proving this over many a time.
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Posted 2019-01-27 12:19 PM
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Southtxponygirl - 2019-01-27 12:05 PM
Frodo - 2019-01-27 11:37 AM Just in case the viewers of liberal media need to be brought up to date, the caravan traveling from Central America has grown to 12,000 and the Mexican government is helping them with their journey to the U.S. border after hinting (lying) to Pres. Trump they would stop them.  This is the part where all federal aid to Mexico should be halted.   Some of these migrants I saw on FOX this morning were wearing bandanas across their faces, I would say because these countries are emptying out their prisons and they'd rather not be recognized just yet.    As Castro put it during the Cuban boatlift where Jimmy Carter sat on his butt and did nothing to stop illegal Cuban migrants "I have flushed my toilets into America."  Castro emptied his mental institutions and prisons into our country.  
 
I think since the Dems are fighting OUR PRESIDENT and the migrants from all over central america {the good and bad} knows this, they know they will be welcome by all the dems {Thank You Nancy} and get all the free handouts they are offering to all the illegals here in the States..This has really cause these migrants to group up and flood our state and take avavaged of what is going to be offered to them once they are here..They dont need to come over here the right way,WHY when the Democrates want them over here illegaly..They {Illegals} know they can get away with this, the Democrats has proving this over many a time.
Did anyone see how many Illegals have actually voted in our elections in TX? About 58,000. The TX AG is looking into it. If it is that bad in TX, just imagine what is like in other states. Just keep giving out Drivers Licenses to Illegals.  The Dems/Libs just want to 'import' new voters.

As you all know, we are all just racist and 'tin foil hat' wearing. 

However, that is all just 'fake/faux news'. 


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Reg. Dec 2003
Posted 2019-01-27 1:14 PM
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Gator Bug - 2019-01-27 10:19 AM

Southtxponygirl - 2019-01-27 12:05 PM
Frodo - 2019-01-27 11:37 AM Just in case the viewers of liberal media need to be brought up to date, the caravan traveling from Central America has grown to 12,000 and the Mexican government is helping them with their journey to the U.S. border after hinting (lying) to Pres. Trump they would stop them.  This is the part where all federal aid to Mexico should be halted.   Some of these migrants I saw on FOX this morning were wearing bandanas across their faces, I would say because these countries are emptying out their prisons and they'd rather not be recognized just yet.    As Castro put it during the Cuban boatlift where Jimmy Carter sat on his butt and did nothing to stop illegal Cuban migrants "I have flushed my toilets into America."  Castro emptied his mental institutions and prisons into our country.  
 
I think since the Dems are fighting OUR PRESIDENT and the migrants from all over central america {the good and bad} knows this, they know they will be welcome by all the dems {Thank You Nancy} and get all the free handouts they are offering to all the illegals here in the States..This has really cause these migrants to group up and flood our state and take avavaged of what is going to be offered to them once they are here..They dont need to come over here the right way,WHY when the Democrates want them over here illegaly..They {Illegals} know they can get away with this, the Democrats has proving this over many a time.
Did anyone see how many Illegals have actually voted in our elections in TX? About 58,000. The TX AG is looking into it. If it is that bad in TX, just imagine what is like in other states. Just keep giving out Drivers Licenses to Illegals.  The Dems/Libs just want to 'import' new voters.

As you all know, we are all just racist and 'tin foil hat' wearing. 

However, that is all just 'fake/faux news'. 

CA has agreed to remove 1.5 MILLION invalid voters off their voter rolls because they were actually caught with their hand in the cookie jar with no way to get it out without legal consequences. That's just one state.
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Posted 2019-01-27 8:13 PM
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Headline: Police Are Now Seeking The Removal Of Nancy Pelosi

"President Trump’s decision to sign a temporary deal to re-open the government, without the funding for the border wall, shows how much compassion he feels towards these federal employees. Nancy Pelosi, Chuck Schumer, and the Democrats complete unwillingness to negotiate over the past 35 days shows they don’t care at all about people not getting paid to do their jobs while they work."

https://www.lawenforcementtoday.com/remove-nancy-pelosi/?utm_campaig...
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