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Southtxponygirl
Reg. Nov 2006
Posted 2019-01-30 1:32 PM
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I like the looks of her. I would maybe change up the cinch to one a little longer and the saddle skirts look a little long for her, she looks like shes got a pretty short back, so maybe the saddle could be soring her up, I would go with a round saddle skirt for her, sometimes those flex trees can be a devil for certain horses.. And I would look into a Chiro for her, I would start somple for her untill you can get her into a good lameness vet. And have the angles of her hoofs checked too.. 
Good Luck with finding the issue with her, I like her 




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Aggieruns17
Reg. Jul 2017
Posted 2019-01-30 1:50 PM
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I have had her Chiro'd pretty regularly and he was making some good progress on her, but it didn't solve the issue completely. That is an old photo, since then she has a new saddle, new pad, and new cinch. I didn't like how that saddle fit at all. The new stuff stops before her flank :) Thanks for the input! It is nice to know I was on the right track with all that tack!

What is somple?

And thanks! I love her so much!

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dRowe
Reg. Jan 2017
Posted 2019-01-30 1:52 PM
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Here’s some hope for you -

My horse can’t up VERY back sore over a year ago. Vet 1 put him on muscle relaxers, then adequan and exercise rehab. Did nothing. After a few months, I tried a new vet.

Vet 2 diagnosed him with kissing spines by X-ray. Boo for the diagnosis, but yay for an answer, right?! The vet surgeon looked at his xrays and said it was so mild that he should be non-symptomatic and to keep looking for another reason for the soreness. So THEN he was diagnosed by ultrasound with an inflamed psoas muscle. Went through bute and exercise rehab with not much improvement. I kept with this vet for a long while, doing everything they said. Then I decided for a third opinion.

Vet 3 came a month ago and right away said his hocks were incredibly bad (prior vets both did flexions and said his hocks were within normal range). Injected his hocks 2.5 year weeks ago and started Equithrive...and I ran him for the first time in 18 months this past weekend. He feels better than ever.

So, second and maybe even third opinion would be so worth it for you!!!
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Southtxponygirl
Reg. Nov 2006
Posted 2019-01-30 3:06 PM
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Aggieruns17 - 2019-01-30 1:50 PM I have had her Chiro'd pretty regularly and he was making some good progress on her, but it didn't solve the issue completely. That is an old photo, since then she has a new saddle, new pad, and new cinch. I didn't like how that saddle fit at all. The new stuff stops before her flank :) Thanks for the input! It is nice to know I was on the right track with all that tack! What is somple? And thanks! I love her so much!

I meant to say simple, hit the wrong key.. 
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veintiocho
Reg. Sep 2015
Posted 2019-01-30 5:36 PM
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Aggieruns17 - 2019-01-30 1:08 PM

Whitehall :)

I would ask around for some good lameness vets in Billings. Get someone who will X-ray, flex, etc to pinpoint what is going on. Possibly hocks are fusing? Good luck!!
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Gunner11
Reg. Mar 2011
Posted 2019-01-31 9:16 AM
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Was this an equine vet, or a general vet that sometimes works on horses? You need a vet that specializes in this kind of thing :)
Find some horse/ranch related Facebook groups in your area and ask around for a vet they recommend. Good luck!
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Aggieruns17
Reg. Jul 2017
Posted 2019-02-02 8:54 AM
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Thanks everyone! I did go get a second opinion from a very reputable vet and he rated her lameness as a 2. We did xrays and blocked her left stifle and that helped a ton. Sounds like she is going to be just fine.
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MOGirl07
Reg. Feb 2012
Posted 2019-02-02 7:24 PM
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Aggieruns17 - 2019-02-02 8:54 AM

Thanks everyone! I did go get a second opinion from a very reputable vet and he rated her lameness as a 2. We did xrays and blocked her left stifle and that helped a ton. Sounds like she is going to be just fine.

That's great! So glad you got a concise diagnosis for your horse!
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wyoming barrel racer
Reg. Apr 2006
Posted 2019-02-02 7:36 PM
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No way enough information. Of course a lot depends on how much money you want to spend. I bet I spent $2000 before I found out Ransom had been competing with a "healed" broken pelvis. Gave him 18 months off per the vets recommendation and he was still off to ride. But happy as a lark to be a pasture pet, so he became one at 6 yrs old. It was the 3rd vet that finally checked via pelvic exam. We had blocked and x rayed everything from the stifle down to the hoof with mixed results. He was a tough horse that really tried despite the pain.

Audie was diagnosed with wobblers after a strange neck issue where he was stiff and couldn't turn his head or lower it below his knees after having his teeth floated. Summer off, lots of money later $3500+ (but thankfully he was insured) and it was just soft tissue. He is not generally a stoic animal. Kind of my sissy boy. But I had another vet that thinks outside the box and we had him massaged/chiro'd and mesotherapy. I think he needs SI injections too, but we had the best season ever last year, just a year after his "wobbler" mis-diagnosis. I would always want actual dignosis before I gave up if I were you. I am finding out that not all vets know it all and there are plenty that don't know that much period.
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casualdust07
Reg. Mar 2005
Posted 2019-02-02 7:45 PM
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I didn't read all the comments but I would get a second opinion from another vet before I made life changing decisions about my horse.


I would not stop until I found a diagnosis. What if it's fixable? I would start over, do another lameness exam, localize the area that's the problem based on diagnostic nerve blocks, and then use the imaging available (x ray, ultrasound, both depending on the area) to get an answer. If I can find the area of lameness but don't get any answers from X ray or US I would consider MRI if I wanted to spend the money and find out.

In a 6 year old horse, I would not quit yet. If it were a 15 year old chronic lameness that quit responding to therapies, then yeah, I would be less inclined to do all the diagnostics (like spend the money on MRI) and would spend it on a stud fee.

My god, what if it's something stupid like an abscess.. ?
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casualdust07
Reg. Mar 2005
Posted 2019-02-02 7:47 PM
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Aggieruns17 - 2019-02-02 8:54 AM

Thanks everyone! I did go get a second opinion from a very reputable vet and he rated her lameness as a 2. We did xrays and blocked her left stifle and that helped a ton. Sounds like she is going to be just fine.

Thank the lord. I was scared you listened to #1.
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wyoming barrel racer
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Posted 2019-02-02 7:49 PM
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casualdust07 - 2019-02-02 6:47 PM
Aggieruns17 - 2019-02-02 8:54 AM Thanks everyone! I did go get a second opinion from a very reputable vet and he rated her lameness as a 2. We did xrays and blocked her left stifle and that helped a ton. Sounds like she is going to be just fine.
Thank the lord. I was scared you listened to #1.

My thoughts too 
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casualdust07
Reg. Mar 2005
Posted 2019-02-02 7:59 PM
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wyoming barrel racer - 2019-02-02 7:49 PM

casualdust07 - 2019-02-02 6:47 PM
Aggieruns17 - 2019-02-02 8:54 AM Thanks everyone! I did go get a second opinion from a very reputable vet and he rated her lameness as a 2. We did xrays and blocked her left stifle and that helped a ton. Sounds like she is going to be just fine.
Thank the lord. I was scared you listened to #1.

My thoughts tooΒ 

I'm sorry but, if I don't know whats going on, I'm going to humbly send the horse to someone who can figure it out... dang sure wouldn't just tell someone to quit, unless they up front told me they had $0 left and couldn't do any treatments anyway.
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wyoming barrel racer
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Posted 2019-02-02 8:08 PM
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casualdust07 - 2019-02-02 6:47 PM
Aggieruns17 - 2019-02-02 8:54 AM Thanks everyone! I did go get a second opinion from a very reputable vet and he rated her lameness as a 2. We did xrays and blocked her left stifle and that helped a ton. Sounds like she is going to be just fine.
Thank the lord. I was scared you listened to #1.
My thoughts too 
I'm sorry but, if I don't know whats going on, I'm going to humbly send the horse to someone who can figure it out... dang sure wouldn't just tell someone to quit, unless they up front told me they had $0 left and couldn't do any treatments anyway.

I wish more were that way. I have an all around ranch/pet/horse vet an hour south and one an hour north. They are generally good at most general horse things-minor cuts etc. One I really like to float teeth, the other I can get meds from and supplies for more reasonable plus he is my go-to for cats and dogs. Both will recommend a Vet Surgical hospital in SD for any and all things lameness. They know their limits and aren't about to charge or try and diagnose something they don't do much of. And neither do repro work, but one is excellent at 14 day preg checks. It's nice to have ones that know their limitations. 
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Chandler's Mom
Reg. Jan 2015
Posted 2019-02-02 9:25 PM
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casualdust07 - 2019-02-02 7:59 PM

wyoming barrel racer - 2019-02-02 7:49 PM

casualdust07 - 2019-02-02 6:47 PM
Aggieruns17 - 2019-02-02 8:54 AM Thanks everyone! I did go get a second opinion from a very reputable vet and he rated her lameness as a 2. We did xrays and blocked her left stifle and that helped a ton. Sounds like she is going to be just fine.
Thank the lord. I was scared you listened to #1.

My thoughts tooΒ 

I'm sorry but, if I don't know whats going on, I'm going to humbly send the horse to someone who can figure it out... dang sure wouldn't just tell someone to quit, unless they up front told me they had $0 left and couldn't do any treatments anyway.

Wish more were like you. . . Thanks for being a good one!
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casualdust07
Reg. Mar 2005
Posted 2019-02-02 9:57 PM
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Chandler's Mom - 2019-02-02 9:25 PM

casualdust07 - 2019-02-02 7:59 PM

wyoming barrel racer - 2019-02-02 7:49 PM

casualdust07 - 2019-02-02 6:47 PM
Aggieruns17 - 2019-02-02 8:54 AM Thanks everyone! I did go get a second opinion from a very reputable vet and he rated her lameness as a 2. We did xrays and blocked her left stifle and that helped a ton. Sounds like she is going to be just fine.
Thank the lord. I was scared you listened to #1.

My thoughts tooΒ 

I'm sorry but, if I don't know whats going on, I'm going to humbly send the horse to someone who can figure it out... dang sure wouldn't just tell someone to quit, unless they up front told me they had $0 left and couldn't do any treatments anyway.

Wish more were like you. . . Thanks for being a good one!

I had to do it to my personal horse last year. I knew where the lameness was coming from, she blocked to her foot, but her radiographs were normal and ultrasound of the foot is often times unrewarding. Sucked it up and spent the $$$ on an MRI, got a diagnosis, rehab plan.. four months later she went back to winning. In my defense, it was a diagnosis that you could only get from an MRI, and it was the best case scenario of what all could have been going on.
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