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I Can't Heal the Scratches--UPDATE

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dashnlotti
Reg. Aug 2009
Posted 2018-12-14 9:11 AM
Subject: RE: I Can't Heal the Scratches



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Runnincat - 2018-12-13 11:58 AM

I had a mare that I experienced this same thing with.  I spent $600.00 at the vet, all WINTER long could not heal them up.  We did every known treatment for scratches like what you are doing.  I could not get it to heal.  I spoke with a very good friend of mine (national trainer) and she told me to use Alushield.  She said you are probably dealing with photosensitization and its not scratches.  Bought a can of Alushield and thoroughly sprayed the area twice a day...in 3 days they healed up.  The can of Alushield cost $15.00.  Now when she gets that "scratches" looking stuff on her white sock, I whip out my can of Alushield and have it healed immediately.  I also fly boot her in the summer and found that protection helps with the sun damage on it. 

This is exactly what happens to one of mine in the summer. First he looks like he has rain rot, then all of his hair falls out. This year I moved him to a new pasture and didn't have the problem so I'm assuming there was something in the other pasture he was eating causing it to happen.

When they have actual rain rot, or scratches, I bathe with chlorhexidine shampoo. Don't buy the high dollar stuff from the vet though, amazon sells a gallon jug for under $20. Get a pump for it and add a few squirts into you cheapo shampoo, works GREAT and is also good to have around if you need to clean a would or anything.
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CowgirlLindz
Reg. Jul 2011
Posted 2018-12-14 1:54 PM
Subject: RE: I Can't Heal the Scratches


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I cannot recommend socks for horses enough! https://socksforhorses.com/

after so many antibiotics, creams, scrubs, lotions, potions you name it I tried it!..........my vet said "This may just be something he will have to live with"..........so I found the socks and was like WTH magic socks I was at my wits end!!

BEST THINGS EVER I was losing my mind until I found these socks LOVE LOVE LOVE

He really hasn't had to wear them since they healed up. I toss them right on tho if he gets a cut on his leg or if its extremely muddy and wet. But I would probably count on my hands how often he has had them on since it healed

Edited by CowgirlLindz 2018-12-14 2:18 PM
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LMS
Reg. Feb 2008
Posted 2018-12-14 2:54 PM
Subject: RE: I Can't Heal the Scratches



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If you're using a zinc oxide cream, be sure it is 30% zinc oxide.  There is a difference in desitin creams, 1 works, the other doesn't.  Most likely due to the lack of light penetrating to the skin on some, however, the zinc is heavy enough to "suffocate" the scratches.  I also will scrub every other day with betadine wash-get nice pink skin showing, let it dry and then apply the zinc.  
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SmokinBandits
Reg. Dec 2003
Posted 2018-12-20 7:42 PM
Subject: RE: I Can't Heal the Scratches



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Thanks for all your replies. I wrote everything down. But I have improvement! My girlfriend told me to use Shapley's MTG like Gunnin to Play recommended. She insisted that I shouldn't put on any ointments like Desitin or Equiderm. She said, "You want to DRY it." So I shampooed her legs with Betadine Scrub to get all the old gook off and start fresh. Rinsed and dried. Then I put the MTG on with a cotton ball. It's a yellow liquid. The main ingredient is sulphur. Then I stalled her at night even though she has a dry run-in shed and she doesn't have to stand in mud or water. Two days later, I saw improvement! It now looks like a bad sunburn that is healing.

Hopefully this continues. If not, I might try one of your other suggestions before I call the vet. Thanks for all your help!

 
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MrsHound
Reg. Oct 2004
Posted 2018-12-21 9:03 AM
Subject: RE: I Can't Heal the Scratches



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 Actually, if it is in fact a case of scratches, the strongest Desitin mixed with cortizone and neosporin works awesome!!!  Sounds like you are dealing with something more than a simple case of scratches. 
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SmokinBandits
Reg. Dec 2003
Posted 2019-01-26 5:41 PM
Subject: RE: I Can't Heal the Scratches



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Update: I had to call the vet. The Shapley's MTG was working. The scabs were falling off and there was skin that looked like a dried sunburn and then hair started growing in it. I thought, yippee! But then more came near the ones that were healing. The MTG would heal what was there, but not prevent more from coming.

The vet gave me silver sulfadiazine cream and doxy antibiotic. I am alternating that and the MTG. I think I'm having the same results. The ones that are there are healing but new ones have appeared. We also started her on flaxseed because the fatty acids are good for the skin.

It's still incredibly wet here. Everyone I talk to is dealing with scratches. The vet was heading to another case after she left me. I really don't think I'm going to get rid of this completely until the moisture is all gone. We have a day or two of sun and I get excited because it looks like it's going to dry up, but then it rains or snows again. She is not the kind of horse I can stall 24/7. She's rearing in the morning waiting for me and she has ulcers. 

The vet gave me a bottle of anti-fungal spray (it's like Monistat) to try next if I give up on this course. There is talk of shaving her legs, washing her real good with Betadine, and a steroid.  I DO think we're going to have to shave her legs so they can get air and I can see what I'm missing. We couldn't do it when the vet was here because it was ten degrees out. 
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emricmacy
Reg. Sep 2016
Posted 2019-01-26 6:45 PM
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SmokinBandits - 2019-01-26 5:41 PM

Update: I had to call the vet. The Shapley's MTG was working. The scabs were falling off and there was skin that looked like a dried sunburn and then hair started growing in it. I thought, yippee! But then more came near the ones that were healing. The MTG would heal what was there, but not prevent more from coming.

The vet gave me silver sulfadiazine cream and doxy antibiotic. I am alternating that and the MTG. I think I'm having the same results. The ones that are there are healing but new ones have appeared. We also started her on flaxseed because the fatty acids are good for the skin.

It's still incredibly wet here. Everyone I talk to is dealing with scratches. The vet was heading to another case after she left me. I really don't think I'm going to get rid of this completely until the moisture is all gone. We have a day or two of sun and I get excited because it looks like it's going to dry up, but then it rains or snows again. She is not the kind of horse I can stall 24/7. She's rearing in the morning waiting for me and she has ulcers. 

The vet gave me a bottle of anti-fungal spray (it's like Monistat) to try next if I give up on this course. There is talk of shaving her legs, washing her real good with Betadine, and a steroid.  I DO think we're going to have to shave her legs so they can get air and I can see what I'm missing. We couldn't do it when the vet was here because it was ten degrees out. 

I tried everything under the sun like you have, and I just healed my geldings scratches completely last month with Vetrycin Hydrogel. You spray it on and it stays put, it doesn't drip or anything. He's out 24/7. It worked for us, and he's had them since july!
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SmokinBandits
Reg. Dec 2003
Posted 2019-02-16 6:02 PM
Subject: RE: I Can't Heal the Scratches--UPDATE



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Thanks Emricmacy. I put that on my list.

They're still here. Since the vet: she was on 3 weeks worth of antibiotics (doxy); I used three tubes of silver sulfadiazine and three bottles of Shapley's MTG and then a bottle of the anti-fungal spray the vet gave me (miconizole sp?) and they're doing the same thing. I get scabs falling off; what looks like dried, healing sunburn, and then I find new ones nearby.  

I just started a jar of Krud Zapper. It has sulfur in it like the MTG. But I'm able to get a good coating on her legs and so I'm less likely to miss some.

It's still wet and saturated here. The precipitation doesn't stop. A day or two of sun and I get excited that it's finally going to dry out but then it rains or snows again.  I'm about ready to pray for a drought. 
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CowgirlLindz
Reg. Jul 2011
Posted 2019-02-16 9:41 PM
Subject: RE: I Can't Heal the Scratches--UPDATE


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Get the silver ones

I was at my wits’ end

I know magic socks but after 3 vets and tried everything anyone suggested or I found on forums!
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Gunnin to Play
Reg. Nov 2005
Posted 2019-02-18 4:26 PM
Subject: RE: I Can't Heal the Scratches--UPDATE


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SmokinBandits - 2019-02-16 6:02 PM Thanks Emricmacy. I put that on my list.

They're still here. Since the vet: she was on 3 weeks worth of antibiotics (doxy); I used three tubes of silver sulfadiazine and three bottles of Shapley's MTG and then a bottle of the anti-fungal spray the vet gave me (miconizole sp?) and they're doing the same thing. I get scabs falling off; what looks like dried, healing sunburn, and then I find new ones nearby.  

I just started a jar of Krud Zapper. It has sulfur in it like the MTG. But I'm able to get a good coating on her legs and so I'm less likely to miss some.

It's still wet and saturated here. The precipitation doesn't stop. A day or two of sun and I get excited that it's finally going to dry out but then it rains or snows again.  I'm about ready to pray for a drought. 


The drier you can keep them the better! Keep at it!

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