Log in to my account Barrel Horse World
Come on in Folks on-line

Today is

You are logged in as a guest. Logon or register an account to access more features.


Guttural pouch mycosis

Jump to page :
Last activity 2019-04-13 3:15 AM
9 replies, 2529 views

View previous thread :: View next thread
   General Discussion -> Barrel Talk
Refresh
 
brlracerchick
Reg. Jun 2010
Posted 2019-04-09 11:13 PM
Subject: Guttural pouch mycosis



Thick and Wavy


Posts: 6102
50001000100
Location: Nebraska

Has anyone ever had the coil surgery done on their horse? How were they post op? 

↑ Top ↓ Bottom
casualdust07
Reg. Mar 2005
Posted 2019-04-10 12:00 PM
Subject: RE: Guttural pouch mycosis



You get what you give


Posts: 13030
500050002000100025
Location: Texas

I've referred one for it. He survived, but required two blood transfusions before the procedure. 

↑ Top ↓ Bottom
AmericanJelly1
Reg. Dec 2018
Posted 2019-04-10 12:22 PM
Subject: RE: Guttural pouch mycosis


Veteran


Posts: 136
10025

I have never heard about this until your post.... Very interesting read.

 

Hope for a good, fast recovery for your horse. 

↑ Top ↓ Bottom
brlracerchick
Reg. Jun 2010
Posted 2019-04-10 10:12 PM
Subject: RE: Guttural pouch mycosis



Thick and Wavy


Posts: 6102
50001000100
Location: Nebraska

She’s doing well, just dropping her grain and cocking her head. I called Iowa state about it and they said it’s just because her teeth were bad but she never did it before the surgery. I was just wondering if this is common for a few days post op due to soreness. 

↑ Top ↓ Bottom
casualdust07
Reg. Mar 2005
Posted 2019-04-11 4:50 PM
Subject: RE: Guttural pouch mycosis



You get what you give


Posts: 13030
500050002000100025
Location: Texas

brlracerchick - 2019-04-10 10:12 PM


She’s doing well, just dropping her grain and cocking her head. I called Iowa state about it and they said it’s just because her teeth were bad but she never did it before the surgery. I was just wondering if this is common for a few days post op due to soreness. 


I wouldn't know for sure but I can see how it would be possible. Glad you were able to even get the surgery done, a lot of horses bleed to death before you can do anything about it. 

↑ Top ↓ Bottom
brlracerchick
Reg. Jun 2010
Posted 2019-04-12 1:19 AM
Subject: RE: Guttural pouch mycosis



Thick and Wavy


Posts: 6102
50001000100
Location: Nebraska

casualdust07 - 2019-04-11 4:50 PM


brlracerchick - 2019-04-10 10:12 PM


She’s doing well, just dropping her grain and cocking her head. I called Iowa state about it and they said it’s just because her teeth were bad but she never did it before the surgery. I was just wondering if this is common for a few days post op due to soreness. 



I wouldn't know for sure but I can see how it would be possible. Glad you were able to even get the surgery done, a lot of horses bleed to death before you can do anything about it. 


They said I had caught it super early. She had about a week of random bleeding but never running out of her nose: her nostril on that side is white so it was noticeable to me. It would be there in the am then not the pm and vise versa. Weirdest thing. She didn’t even need a transfusion or anything. She had an easier time today(thurs) but still cocks her head to the right randomly. She had surgery last Friday, so we’re not even a week out yet. She also has yellow snot coming out of that side but the surgeon says that is normal as that fungus gets out of her system. 

↑ Top ↓ Bottom
CHASIN CANS
Reg. Nov 2018
Posted 2019-04-12 11:34 PM
Subject: RE: Guttural pouch mycosis


Regular


Posts: 86
252525

brlracerchick - 2019-04-12 1:19 AM

casualdust07 - 2019-04-11 4:50 PM

brlracerchick - 2019-04-10 10:12 PM

She’s doing well, just dropping her grain and cocking her head. I called Iowa state about it and they said it’s just because her teeth were bad but she never did it before the surgery. I was just wondering if this is common for a few days post op due to soreness. 

I wouldn't know for sure but I can see how it would be possible. Glad you were able to even get the surgery done, a lot of horses bleed to death before you can do anything about it. 

They said I had caught it super early. She had about a week of random bleeding but never running out of her nose: her nostril on that side is white so it was noticeable to me. It would be there in the am then not the pm and vise versa. Weirdest thing. She didn’t even need a transfusion or anything. She had an easier time today(thurs) but still cocks her head to the right randomly. She had surgery last Friday, so we’re not even a week out yet. She also has yellow snot coming out of that side but the surgeon says that is normal as that fungus gets out of her system. 

IMO this surgery is the most dangerous a horse can have.  On the race track 

the guttural pouch is known as the air conditioner to cool down the blood 

going to the brain and entire head.  It is said that food gets into the pouch 

and creates the fungus/infection and flushes are more common than surgeries. 

Pay attention to all of the conditions that are controlled via nerves and the 

affects created when there is a pouch problem.  Hopefully the movement of 

the head and grain droppage is associated with the horse trying to swallow 

similar to us humans with a sore throat or swollen sore tonsils.  

Has your vet recommended making a sloppy soupy feeding program to 

alleviate any abrasive scrubbling regular feed might create to the 

opening of the gutteral pouch that might be sore from the surgery tools.??

 

Your vet apparently is right on spot along with Ben Carson the 

neurosurgeon!1

 

I was amazed to find this pictoral with surgery video and the excellent 

descriptions that might help you and your horse get thru this very

dangerous situation.  Even when the vet sez your horse can be rode

again .. I would give him another 3-6 months of pasture rest to heal,

just incase there is  an undetectable weak spot.  

GOOD LUCK .. HANG IN THERE ..

https://www.vet.k-state.edu/vhc/services/equine/timely-topics/gutturalpouchmycosis.html 

 

 



Edited by CHASIN CANS 2019-04-12 11:39 PM
↑ Top ↓ Bottom
brlracerchick
Reg. Jun 2010
Posted 2019-04-13 2:48 AM
Subject: RE: Guttural pouch mycosis



Thick and Wavy


Posts: 6102
50001000100
Location: Nebraska

CHASIN CANS - 2019-04-12 11:34 PM



brlracerchick - 2019-04-12 1:19 AM


casualdust07 - 2019-04-11 4:50 PM


brlracerchick - 2019-04-10 10:12 PM


She’s doing well, just dropping her grain and cocking her head. I called Iowa state about it and they said it’s just because her teeth were bad but she never did it before the surgery. I was just wondering if this is common for a few days post op due to soreness. 



I wouldn't know for sure but I can see how it would be possible. Glad you were able to even get the surgery done, a lot of horses bleed to death before you can do anything about it. 



They said I had caught it super early. She had about a week of random bleeding but never running out of her nose: her nostril on that side is white so it was noticeable to me. It would be there in the am then not the pm and vise versa. Weirdest thing. She didn’t even need a transfusion or anything. She had an easier time today(thurs) but still cocks her head to the right randomly. She had surgery last Friday, so we’re not even a week out yet. She also has yellow snot coming out of that side but the surgeon says that is normal as that fungus gets out of her system. 



IMO this surgery is the most dangerous a horse can have.  On the race track 


the guttural pouch is known as the air conditioner to cool down the blood 


going to the brain and entire head.  It is said that food gets into the pouch 


and creates the fungus/infection and flushes are more common than surgeries. 


Pay attention to all of the conditions that are controlled via nerves and the 


affects created when there is a pouch problem.  Hopefully the movement of 


the head and grain droppage is associated with the horse trying to swallow 


similar to us humans with a sore throat or swollen sore tonsils.  


Has your vet recommended making a sloppy soupy feeding program to 


alleviate any abrasive scrubbling regular feed might create to the 


opening of the gutteral pouch that might be sore from the surgery tools.??


 


Your vet apparently is right on spot along with Ben Carson the 


neurosurgeon!1


 


I was amazed to find this pictoral with surgery video and the excellent 


descriptions that might help you and your horse get thru this very


dangerous situation.  Even when the vet sez your horse can be rode


again .. I would give him another 3-6 months of pasture rest to heal,


just incase there is  an undetectable weak spot.  


GOOD LUCK .. HANG IN THERE ..


https://www.vet.k-state.edu/vhc/services/equine/timely-topics/gutturalpouchmycosis.html 


 


 


No, they told me to feed as normal (I’ve been wetting it down anyway). They went in via her carotid t place the coils and then just infused anti fungals into the pouch. They told me to just get her teeth done, which I had already set up an appt a month or so ago for next week (local vet has farm call specials in the spring so they come out and do everyone). I’m happy my vet will be out anyway because an extra set of eyes never hurts. She was a little less withdrawn and tried to walk away from me when I went to catch her which is more like her but after I fed tonight she laid down for a couple of hours. I’m a nurse on a vascular/head and neck surgery floor so I’m familiar with carotid surgeries and extensive head and neck surgeries in people. I know how long it takes people to get to feeling better and how many nerves and such that can be affected so I was surprised when they said she would be fine and there would be no big things I had to do post op. That’s why I wondered how other horses had been afterwards. She’s semi retired so I think she’ll just chill in the pasture this year :

 

ill check out that article, thanks! If anyone is interested I had them give me the pictures from the scope so I can try to upload them. I had never heard of this before her surgery. Crazy deal. 

↑ Top ↓ Bottom
Chandler's Mom
Reg. Jan 2015
Posted 2019-04-13 2:53 AM
Subject: RE: Guttural pouch mycosis



My Heart Be Happy


Posts: 9159
5000200020001002525
Location: Arkansas

Glad she's seeming more like herself

↑ Top ↓ Bottom
brlracerchick
Reg. Jun 2010
Posted 2019-04-13 3:15 AM
Subject: RE: Guttural pouch mycosis



Thick and Wavy


Posts: 6102
50001000100
Location: Nebraska

Chandler's Mom - 2019-04-13 2:53 AM


Glad she's seeming more like herself


Thanks. I’m still pretty worried about her but the walking away thing made me feel a little better. She also tried to shove one of my other mares away this am to eat her grain. Slowly but surely making progress. 

↑ Top ↓ Bottom
Jump to page :
Jump to forum :
Search this forum
Printer friendly version
E-mail a link to this thread
 

© Copyright 2002- BarrelHorseWorld.com All rights reserved including digital rights

Support - Contact / Log in to my account


Working Truck World Working Horse World Cargo Trailer World Horse Trailer World Roping Horse World
'
Registered to: Barrel Horse World
(Delete all cookies set by this site)
Running MegaBBS ASP Forum Software
© 2002-2025 PD9 Software