If he would ask him to lift his back and engage his hind end he would slow his feet down.

just saying.

this isn’t high level western pleasure, this is backyard local open show.

I used to show WP - 12 years ago. But I did not ride like this. I always asked with my legs for them to lift their bellies/back and 19 times out of 20, I got the response I needed ( more collected, slowing down, etc) and didn't need to touch their faces. 

But yes, many WP riders, especially ones at the local fun show level, ride like this and it grates on my nerves to watch.

I thought I would give this a bump

You troublemaker, you!!

Yept I thought that this needed a bump up..

It's all good, I'd just love for you to point out where I was making fun of him. This is huge stretch and you know it.

No, you didn't "actually" make fun of him but YOU did this ......

 My problem is the mean spirited nature of posting a pic KNOWING the response it's going to get,

Oh....wait ...... that is from YOUR post on the "weird" thread .....

My point about bumping up the Video that Gunner11 posted is this... This man was making a video to sell this horse on, he was not asking anyone to judge him he just wanted to make a sale, but this did turn into a judgement video, And I'm not pointing any fingers at any one on that thread because I respect all my BB's and love them all, they are all good people, but when you do post any videos of anyone of course its human nature to judge.. I respected this mans way of riding, we all do things different, BUT on the Weird thread, these silly people like the responds they get, they put themselves out there for a reason and on purpose they are entertainers this is their job and they do it well, this is how they make the millons they get for stuff like this, so dont come onto that thread and say we or bullys and racist.. The man in the video was on a sale ad for gosh sake... Yes he was out there but I dont think he thought he would be put up for a judgement debate on a forum..

Yes, I know what I typed. How on earth is that even remotely related to asking why a trainer is riding a certain way? I could see your point if I said "OMG guys, look at this idiot on this horse". 

Y'all are really grasping at straws here, trying to create something from nothing.

So if I see something that I'm confused about, and would like to know from more experienced horse people why something is being done a certain way, I should never post a video, even if that would be the best way to explain my question? If anyone thinks I posted that video for it to turn into a judgemental, bashing thread, that's your problem.

Funny how things get turned around, isn't it?????

You're going to try and interpret things how you want, but you know good and well this thread was created to ask a legitimate question, and the other was solely to ridicule someone. You're a smart lady who knows the difference but you're just trying to keep the sh!t stirred up.

I don’t think either STPG or NJJ were “grasping at straws” at all.  The guy in red had to know he would receive all kinds of comments. The trainer was just trying to sell a horse. The first guy knew his picture would be reposted by people on social media, that’s why he dressed that way - he WANTS the attention. The trainer posted his video for  the purpose of selling a horse and that brings attention, too, when posted on social media. The OP posted the red dressed guy for reactions and you did the same thing when you posted the trainer’s video. I don’t see how you think that’s “grasping g at straws”. 

I created this post asking why he was using that technique on that horse, because I had literally never seen it before and since this group is full of really great riders and trainers, this was the best place to ask. I didn't post it with the intention of bashing the trainer.

The post of the guy in red has a title of "weird" and was created to make fun of someone. It's right there in the title!

These are two completely different things and not even remotely related. But people can twist anything they want to fit their narrative.

You are so worried about peoples’ feelings. Well, it is because of you and people like you that I would never post a video of me riding/running barrels. I am at best an average 3D rider, so sometimes I am in my horses mouth or not perfectly sitting in the middle of my saddle.