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WrapN3MN
Reg. Mar 2008
Posted 2019-05-22 11:14 AM
Subject: RE: Daily Ulcer Meds





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I keep all my young horses in training and stressed on MVP Gastro-Plex. Fortunately, I don't have any finished horses that require daily gut support currently (knock on wood!), but will use the Gastro-Plex Paste at races/3 day weekends with them to keep their stomach settled and eating/drinking while on the road and stalling. 

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Sandok
Reg. Jan 2011
Posted 2019-05-22 3:24 PM
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Thanks for all the suggestions.  This horse is basically retired and am not sure if he has somewhat of an ulcer or not.  You would not think he would be stressed but he has scared me a time or two with out of the ordinary things he has done.  It has been basically been in the mornings and a couple of times when I have been on my way to the barn in the morning to feed he has been trotting around in the pasture or just trotting in a circle.  It has usually been when there has been a weather change.  He shows some signs of colic and when I called the vet he said it was probably just "gas colic".  Vet didn't come out.  But I did get my neighbor to come over and give him some banimine.  My neighbor said he didn't have colic but I just wasn't so sure.  About a month ago I lost my 19 year old mare to colic.  I had someone tell me it was probably from being out on pasture and grass which my 3 has been on the same pasture for 10 years.  Who knows with colic.  Anyway this gelding (he is 24) and the mare were very very close.  What he has done the last time is that when I have gone to the barn in the morning and he has been laying down and he gets up and he stands there for a while then he takes off out of the barn at a trot and starts trotting around the pasture.  I go catch him calm him down and then listen for gut sounds and monitor or check his breathing and it is OK.  So what I have been doing is giving him a dose of the Silver Lining Kolik Ease and start walking him and after about 10 15 minutes his stomach eases and is not so tight and he just relaxes.  So I don't know what's going on.  That's why I was asking about daily ulcer meds and if that would be his problem.  IDK if it's from losing his best friend but he had done this befoe when she was still alive.

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Delta Cowgirl
Reg. Apr 2005
Posted 2019-05-22 6:13 PM
Subject: RE: Daily Ulcer Meds



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Since this is a retired horse, I highly recommend the Ulc-R-Aid.  It's very reasonably priced and, IMO, would be perfect for your horse's situation.  

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WrapN3MN
Reg. Mar 2008
Posted 2019-05-23 2:11 PM
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Sandok - 2019-05-22 3:24 PM


Thanks for all the suggestions.  This horse is basically retired and am not sure if he has somewhat of an ulcer or not.  You would not think he would be stressed but he has scared me a time or two with out of the ordinary things he has done.  It has been basically been in the mornings and a couple of times when I have been on my way to the barn in the morning to feed he has been trotting around in the pasture or just trotting in a circle.  It has usually been when there has been a weather change.  He shows some signs of colic and when I called the vet he said it was probably just "gas colic".  Vet didn't come out.  But I did get my neighbor to come over and give him some banimine.  My neighbor said he didn't have colic but I just wasn't so sure.  About a month ago I lost my 19 year old mare to colic.  I had someone tell me it was probably from being out on pasture and grass which my 3 has been on the same pasture for 10 years.  Who knows with colic.  Anyway this gelding (he is 24) and the mare were very very close.  What he has done the last time is that when I have gone to the barn in the morning and he has been laying down and he gets up and he stands there for a while then he takes off out of the barn at a trot and starts trotting around the pasture.  I go catch him calm him down and then listen for gut sounds and monitor or check his breathing and it is OK.  So what I have been doing is giving him a dose of the Silver Lining Kolik Ease and start walking him and after about 10 15 minutes his stomach eases and is not so tight and he just relaxes.  So I don't know what's going on.  That's why I was asking about daily ulcer meds and if that would be his problem.  IDK if it's from losing his best friend but he had done this befoe when she was still alive.


We had a mare like this - she never had GI issues when she was a performance horse, but for whatever reason in her later years when retired(16yo+) she began colicing frequently, and eventually found it was an ulcer related issue. Treated her with Ulcergard multiple times a year along with a diet change. . . got some control over it to make it stop occuring as frequently (every few months down to once or twice a year), but ultimately we ended up losing her to colic. The last time she went down we had decided it was time to let her move on.  When we began seeing signs of colic we would start her on Ulcergard right away. 

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Sandok
Reg. Jan 2011
Posted 2019-05-23 2:43 PM
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Well I have done the diet change.  I took both the mare and this gelding off of processed feed and put them on Renew Gold.  They are on the Omega cubes complete.  But to think that the mare coliced because of being on grass just blows my mind.  It's just so stinking hard to lose one.  I feel so devasted and like it was totally all my fault.  

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Chandler's Mom
Reg. Jan 2015
Posted 2019-05-23 7:23 PM
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Sandok - 2019-05-23 2:43 PM


Well I have done the diet change.  I took both the mare and this gelding off of processed feed and put them on Renew Gold.  They are on the Omega cubes complete.  But to think that the mare coliced because of being on grass just blows my mind.  It's just so stinking hard to lose one.  I feel so devasted and like it was totally all my fault.  


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little_bug
Reg. Oct 2008
Posted 2019-05-24 8:16 AM
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Sandok - 2019-05-22 12:24 PM


Thanks for all the suggestions.  This horse is basically retired and am not sure if he has somewhat of an ulcer or not.  You would not think he would be stressed but he has scared me a time or two with out of the ordinary things he has done.  It has been basically been in the mornings and a couple of times when I have been on my way to the barn in the morning to feed he has been trotting around in the pasture or just trotting in a circle.  It has usually been when there has been a weather change.  He shows some signs of colic and when I called the vet he said it was probably just "gas colic".  Vet didn't come out.  But I did get my neighbor to come over and give him some banimine.  My neighbor said he didn't have colic but I just wasn't so sure.  About a month ago I lost my 19 year old mare to colic.  I had someone tell me it was probably from being out on pasture and grass which my 3 has been on the same pasture for 10 years.  Who knows with colic.  Anyway this gelding (he is 24) and the mare were very very close.  What he has done the last time is that when I have gone to the barn in the morning and he has been laying down and he gets up and he stands there for a while then he takes off out of the barn at a trot and starts trotting around the pasture.  I go catch him calm him down and then listen for gut sounds and monitor or check his breathing and it is OK.  So what I have been doing is giving him a dose of the Silver Lining Kolik Ease and start walking him and after about 10 15 minutes his stomach eases and is not so tight and he just relaxes.  So I don't know what's going on.  That's why I was asking about daily ulcer meds and if that would be his problem.  IDK if it's from losing his best friend but he had done this befoe when she was still alive.


My mom's horse is basically retired too. She lives in about an 8 acre pasture with plenty of grass plus free choice hay. She has 2 pasture buddies. She started with pawing when standing and then laying down way more often than normal. We thought her front feet were sore as she has a history of front feet problems and the grass she is on is rich. We had the farrier out and he said her feet weren't great but no where near foundering or anything. This went on and off for 2 weeks. She was fine for a couple days then colicy acting again. She eventually went down and wouldn't get back up. Had the vet out and he said extreme ulcers. We put her on Zesterra and within 24 hours she was acting 100% normal again and hasn't had an issue since. The vet wanted to treat with $1000 worth of ulcer meds but was open to seeing how Zesterra did and was highly impressed when he saw the results.

 

I would have never thought this horse would have ulcers considering she lives the good life relaxing out in the pasture, free chocie feed, with buddies. And before anyone flames my mom she isn't super horse savvy and was doing the best she could with what she was told and could see. 

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Sandok
Reg. Jan 2011
Posted 2019-05-24 8:55 AM
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Thanks LB.  My mare did the same thing.  Althugh this mare that I lost was somewhat on the flighty side.  But she had never showed colic signs before or I should say I never saw any but who knows she may have when I was at work.  Just wish I would have thought about it being maybe ulcer related.  That's why I have this gelding now on the Curost Stomach formula.  I check him morning and night for gut sounds and since I have started him on the Curost I haven't noticed him laying down as much (when I am home that is).  Who knows what they do at night.  I just pray I am doing the right thing.  Had horses all my life and never lost one to colic.  

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fulltiltfilly
Reg. Dec 2008
Posted 2019-05-29 5:23 AM
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FLITASTIC - 2019-05-22 11:38 AM


Sandok - 2019-05-22 8:26 AM


Has anybody used the Curost Eq Stomach formula?



Yes!!!!! Its amazing and the absolute best out there, but its also the most expensive option. I want to say its almost 100/bag now for a 30 day supply. I havent ordered in quite a few months. For my two horses that are not real ulcer prone, I decided not to spend 150-200 a month on that formula. They are currently on a product thats 35.00/Month and doing very well. 


What do you have them on now?

 

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FLITASTIC
Reg. Jun 2012
Posted 2019-05-29 9:30 AM
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fulltiltfilly - 2019-05-29 3:23 AM


FLITASTIC - 2019-05-22 11:38 AM


Sandok - 2019-05-22 8:26 AM


Has anybody used the Curost Eq Stomach formula?



Yes!!!!! Its amazing and the absolute best out there, but its also the most expensive option. I want to say its almost 100/bag now for a 30 day supply. I havent ordered in quite a few months. For my two horses that are not real ulcer prone, I decided not to spend 150-200 a month on that formula. They are currently on a product thats 35.00/Month and doing very well. 



What do you have them on now?


 


I have mine on Depaolo Excel. One 70.00 container is a 2 month supply. 

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