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Location: Displaced Iowegian | Gunner11 - 2019-06-14 2:21 PM
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Look, I don’t care who he is. It’s plainly obvious to me that he, and people like him, go to great lengths to look as outrageous and outlandish as possible. They do this for reasons clearly illustrated by the comments on this thread, namely, to attract attention. I don’t feel sorry for him. He’s getting what he craves.....attention. This is nothing new. Tiny Tim did it. Liberace did it. Boy George did it. Alice Cooper did it. Izzy Osborn did it. Even Lady GaGa does it.
I don’t feel sorry for them. We are the fools, not them. Apart from their freakish appearance, they all have/had one thing in common......wealth. Obscene wealth. The joke isn’t on them.....it’s on us.
I don't feel sorry for him either, and agree 100% that this was done for attention. He knew exactly what he was doing when he put together this outfit. My problem is the mean spirited nature of posting a pic KNOWING the response it's going to get, and people openly bragging about being bigoted toward people who are different from them. It's the hypocrisy of "I'm a God fearing Christian who does everything by the bible, but if you aren't just like me and do something I don't agree with, I'm going to judge and discriminate against you". I don't think Jesus would approve of that, lol.
And before anyone blasts me with accusations of being a liberal, I vote Republican like the majority of you 
Is this guy's style my taste? Definitely not...I prefer my men rugged and manly, lol. But kudos to him for having the confidence to rock a crazy outfit when most people are too scared to be themselves out of fear of what people are going to think of them.
We are giving people like this precisely what they want....attention and wealth. I think characterizing people’s comments on these intentionally outrageous costumes as “bigoted” is a stretch, wouldn’t you say? They want to garner the most attention on freak show central. Lady Gaga wearing a dress made of tenderloins was not a religious or ethnic costume. Saying we are “bigots” for making fun of deliberately freakish costumes is an unfair mischaracterization of our intent.
This doesn’t have anything to do with Jesus or bigotry. Jesus gave us free will. These people are honing their craft and promoting themselves for personal gain....exercising free will. We get a few laughs....they get the attention......everyone is happy. Nobody is harmed. Jesus is smiling.
Well except someone literally admitted they are a bigot. So no, not a stretch when it's clearly written out 
You may truly believe that no one is harmed by these "innocent" comments, but you have no clue who is reading them.
I’m guessing she was being facetious, but why don’t you ask her? Nonetheless, there’s nothing bigoted about poking fun at someone’s deliberate attempt at garnering attention and being outrageous. This isn’t about someone’s race, religion, sexual orientation, or ethnicity. No....nobody was harmed by these comments.....except you.
Lol, I'm truly not harmed, offendend, or butt-hurt by anything that's been said, either about the original post, or about me. I also don't care that Roxy thought she'd start sh!t by bumping an old post I made that is not even remotely related to this one.
I get what you're saying and agree with the majority of it.
My bad for thinking I could defend people who are too afraid to speak up for themselves.
Carry on 
So let me get this straight. You think these people are “afraid” to speak up and defend themselves. Really? What makes you think these people are so afraid? Are you really that naive?
I stand corrected. They aren’t the ones looking for attention. You are.
Holy geeze, you are totally not getting what I'm saying. I'm obviously doing a terrible job trying to convey what I'm thinking. I'm talking more big picture. No, this guy and the celebs like him don't need ANY defending by little peons like me. I get it, everyone is making fun of this specific person in the photo. They think it's all in good fun. What they are not taking into consideration is how regular people who struggle with their own identity see negative comments like these, and it makes them feel even worse about themselves. They just want to put on sparkly clothes and be happy because it's not hurting a single soul to do so. But they don't, because they don't want to be ridiculed. No, THESE comments on THIS thread are not directed towards anyone other than the dude in red in the photo. But that doesn't mean others won't apply those comments to themselves, even if that was not the intention.
Is it a stretch to apply that thinking to this "light-hearted" post? I don't know, maybe. My point is that you can't tease one single person and assume that not a single other human being is affected by those comments, even if you didn't want them to be.
YOU just don't get it ...... YOU have done the same thing by posting another person's video and illiciting responses (good, bad or ugly) about HIS actions..... ONLY yours is a worse scenario....why? because the guy in the red outfit will NEVER read any of the responses on this page and IF he did, he would not be offended because he is a celebrity ..... On the other hand, the man (that YOU posted HIS video) could, very likely, ACTUALLY read the responses on this forum (of thousands of members). He could be that "regular" person trying to sell a horse ..... You could have just as easily asked the "question" of why a person would continually bump the bit ....without the video...... | |
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | NJJ - 2019-06-14 2:54 PM
Gunner11 - 2019-06-14 2:21 PM
Bear - 2019-06-14 1:51 PM
Gunner11 - 2019-06-14 1:30 PM
Bear - 2019-06-14 1:11 PM
Gunner11 - 2019-06-14 12:54 PM
Bear - 2019-06-14 11:44 AM
Gunner11 - 2019-06-13 2:30 PM
Bear - 2019-06-12 2:27 PM
Look, I don’t care who he is. It’s plainly obvious to me that he, and people like him, go to great lengths to look as outrageous and outlandish as possible. They do this for reasons clearly illustrated by the comments on this thread, namely, to attract attention. I don’t feel sorry for him. He’s getting what he craves.....attention. This is nothing new. Tiny Tim did it. Liberace did it. Boy George did it. Alice Cooper did it. Izzy Osborn did it. Even Lady GaGa does it.
I don’t feel sorry for them. We are the fools, not them. Apart from their freakish appearance, they all have/had one thing in common......wealth. Obscene wealth. The joke isn’t on them.....it’s on us.
I don't feel sorry for him either, and agree 100% that this was done for attention. He knew exactly what he was doing when he put together this outfit. My problem is the mean spirited nature of posting a pic KNOWING the response it's going to get, and people openly bragging about being bigoted toward people who are different from them. It's the hypocrisy of "I'm a God fearing Christian who does everything by the bible, but if you aren't just like me and do something I don't agree with, I'm going to judge and discriminate against you". I don't think Jesus would approve of that, lol.
And before anyone blasts me with accusations of being a liberal, I vote Republican like the majority of you
Is this guy's style my taste? Definitely not...I prefer my men rugged and manly, lol. But kudos to him for having the confidence to rock a crazy outfit when most people are too scared to be themselves out of fear of what people are going to think of them.
We are giving people like this precisely what they want....attention and wealth. I think characterizing people’s comments on these intentionally outrageous costumes as “bigoted” is a stretch, wouldn’t you say? They want to garner the most attention on freak show central. Lady Gaga wearing a dress made of tenderloins was not a religious or ethnic costume. Saying we are “bigots” for making fun of deliberately freakish costumes is an unfair mischaracterization of our intent.
This doesn’t have anything to do with Jesus or bigotry. Jesus gave us free will. These people are honing their craft and promoting themselves for personal gain....exercising free will. We get a few laughs....they get the attention......everyone is happy. Nobody is harmed. Jesus is smiling.
Well except someone literally admitted they are a bigot. So no, not a stretch when it's clearly written out
You may truly believe that no one is harmed by these "innocent" comments, but you have no clue who is reading them.
I’m guessing she was being facetious, but why don’t you ask her? Nonetheless, there’s nothing bigoted about poking fun at someone’s deliberate attempt at garnering attention and being outrageous. This isn’t about someone’s race, religion, sexual orientation, or ethnicity. No....nobody was harmed by these comments.....except you.
Lol, I'm truly not harmed, offendend, or butt-hurt by anything that's been said, either about the original post, or about me. I also don't care that Roxy thought she'd start sh!t by bumping an old post I made that is not even remotely related to this one.
I get what you're saying and agree with the majority of it.
My bad for thinking I could defend people who are too afraid to speak up for themselves.
Carry on
So let me get this straight. You think these people are “afraid” to speak up and defend themselves. Really? What makes you think these people are so afraid? Are you really that naive?
I stand corrected. They aren’t the ones looking for attention. You are.
Holy geeze, you are totally not getting what I'm saying. I'm obviously doing a terrible job trying to convey what I'm thinking. I'm talking more big picture. No, this guy and the celebs like him don't need ANY defending by little peons like me. I get it, everyone is making fun of this specific person in the photo. They think it's all in good fun. What they are not taking into consideration is how regular people who struggle with their own identity see negative comments like these, and it makes them feel even worse about themselves. They just want to put on sparkly clothes and be happy because it's not hurting a single soul to do so. But they don't, because they don't want to be ridiculed. No, THESE comments on THIS thread are not directed towards anyone other than the dude in red in the photo. But that doesn't mean others won't apply those comments to themselves, even if that was not the intention.
Is it a stretch to apply that thinking to this "light-hearted" post? I don't know, maybe. My point is that you can't tease one single person and assume that not a single other human being is affected by those comments, even if you didn't want them to be.
YOU just don't get it ...... YOU have done the same thing by posting another person's video and illiciting responses (good, bad or ugly) about HIS actions..... ONLY yours is a worse scenario....why? because the guy in the red outfit will NEVER read any of the responses on this page and IF he did, he would not be offended because he is a celebrity ..... On the other hand, the man (that YOU posted HIS video) could, very likely, ACTUALLY read the responses on this forum (of thousands of members). He could be that "regular" person trying to sell a horse ..... You could have just as easily asked the "question" of why a person would continually bump the bit ....without the video......
Thank you Norma this is what I have been trying to say all along, you have such a great way of getting to the point, but I am sure that Gunner11 cant see this, but really I think she does, I think shes smarter then what shes showing.  | |
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| dang folks why did this get everyone in an uproar shee the dude is dressed funny next time i will get 1 of the chicks have no idea who it is nor do i care but this picture was taken by a photographer at some award show so fair game. its not like i snuck up on him shee and who ever call me mean spirted oh hell no again he posed for it and it weird i am mean spirted when it comes to illegals chick haveing litters of kids by 10 different dad yep i am but backto this dang picture shees get a thicker skin | |
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | Uffda. Nice segue though. | |
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Location: N Texas | Roxy, I REALLY like you. Seriously, I think you're one of the sweetest ladies here. Norma is super opinionated, which isn't necessarily a bad thing, lol. Bear is one of the smartest guys here and I love reading his responses and insight. I just honestly believe that in this instance, people are twisting this into what they want. I posted a PUBLIC video (I got it off YouTube, which is the most popular, public video sharing site that I personally know of) on a completely unrelated thread, asking for insight from competent horse people. I never encouraged or implied that anyone should say anything negative in my thread. THIS thread has a public photo of a celebrity, but the very title of this thread has a negative vibe, so it's expected that the responses are going to be along the same lines. THAT is the difference. I posted with the intent of gaining knowledge, the author of this thread posted with the intent of having a good old time making fun of someone else. This isn't about the guy in the red outfit, or the rider in the video, it's about the INTENT of why it was posted here, in this forum, in the first place. That's all I've gotta say about that because now we're just , lol. | |
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Location: Displaced Iowegian | Gunner11 - 2019-06-14 4:18 PM
Roxy, I REALLY like you. Seriously, I think you're one of the sweetest ladies here. Norma is super opinionated, which isn't necessarily a bad thing, lol. Bear is one of the smartest guys here and I love reading his responses and insight. I just honestly believe that in this instance, people are twisting this into what they want. I posted a PUBLIC video (I got it off YouTube, which is the most popular, public video sharing site that I personally know of) on a completely unrelated thread, asking for insight from competent horse people. I never encouraged or implied that anyone should say anything negative in my thread. THIS thread has a public photo of a celebrity, but the very title of this thread has a negative vibe, so it's expected that the responses are going to be along the same lines. THAT is the difference. I posted with the intent of gaining knowledge, the author of this thread posted with the intent of having a good old time making fun of someone else. This isn't about the guy in the red outfit, or the rider in the video, it's about the INTENT of why it was posted here, in this forum, in the first place.
That's all I've gotta say about that because now we're just, lol.
You have done killed that horse a LONG time ago ..... LOL | |
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| gunner question then i amm done how in the world do you figure i had a mean intent by saying weird please explain as i am at loss men in dress are weird looking the gal in the aiport with a shaved head and those rubber tip darts all over her head was wierd me and everyone else was gwaking and it was a public photo he posed i am done with it ublic photo of a celebrity, but the very title of this thread has a negative vibe, so it's expected that the responses are going to be along the same lines. THAT is the difference. I posted with the intent of gaining knowledge, the author of this thread posted with the intent of having a good old time making fun of someone else. This isn't about the guy in the red outfit, or the rider in the video, it's about the INTENT of why it was posted here, in this forum, in the first place. | |
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| I missed the boat... I've been called a bigot because my opinion is different and I didnt agree with someone about certain issues. .. I was just being a smart alec. You wanna dress like that, like I said, you go right ahead, but you had better have the ability to handle some not so positive feedback bub... I miss the old days... | |
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | want2chase3 - 2019-06-16 9:29 AM
I missed the boat... I've been called a bigot because my opinion is different and I didnt agree with someone about certain issues. .. I was just being a smart alec. You wanna dress like that, like I said, you go right ahead, but you had better have the ability to handle some not so positive feedback bub... I miss the old days...
All the ones that know you KNOW you were just being a smart alec, your just too nice and have a good heart to be a bigot, we know better . Some people just like being a smart A** and try to make others feel bad while they are the ones being the you know what.. | |
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Location: the end of the rainbow | I'm just thankful there isn't anyone taking pictures of my in some of my morning chore outfits. | |
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| willrodeo4food - 2019-06-20 1:31 PM
I'm just thankful there isn't anyone taking pictures of my in some of my morning chore outfits.
LOL! Isn't that the truth! My husband wants me to market 'Farm Sexy' for what us horse women REALLY look like!! | |
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | willrodeo4food - 2019-06-20 12:31 PM
I'm just thankful there isn't anyone taking pictures of my in some of my morning chore outfits.
Ha ha ha ha,,I think you'ur safe as long as you dont go into Wal-Mart or any other public places.. | |
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | Bear - 2019-06-20 2:33 PM
Thats a good picture of you Scott, I like that bright shirt, I bet it brings out the color of your eyes, lol | |
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Location: Kansas | Southtxponygirl - 2019-06-20 2:45 PM
Bear - 2019-06-20 2:33 PM
Thats a good picture of you Scott, I like that bright shirt, I bet it brings out the color of your eyes, lol
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | Frodo - 2019-06-20 3:27 PM
Southtxponygirl - 2019-06-20 2:45 PM
Bear - 2019-06-20 2:33 PM
Thats a good picture of you Scott, I like that bright shirt, I bet it brings out the color of your eyes, lol
I think his eyes are pink, are they not?
I cant quite tell, his darn cap is casting to much of a shadow, ha ha ha ha | |
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | Go ahead and make fun of me because of my shirt. I happen to think it’s pretty and it serves to neutralize my toxic masculinity. My dog loves me no matter how eccentric I appear. | |
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Location: Arkansas | Southtxponygirl - 2019-06-20 2:45 PM Bear - 2019-06-20 2:33 PM
Thats a good picture of you Scott, I like that bright shirt, I bet it brings out the color of your eyes, lol All 7 of them!!!! Just kidding Mr Scott! (Colors, not eyes. . . )
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