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        Location: CTX | Just read that he died today. Apparently from a heart attack. So sad. 
Edited by cranky B4 10am 2021-12-06 6:40 PM
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I just read the headlines
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| cranky B4 10am - 2021-12-06 6:12 PM
Just read that he died today. Apparently from a heart attack. So sad. 
Every one in that barn SHOULD care what happened right now. We need to police ourselves before our horse sports are taken from us because it's going to be a fight that is coming sooner than we would like to think. Outsiders are just waiting to end our horse sports and there are a lot of uninformed horse owners who starting to decry our horse sports. We were talking about this last weekend at a R+ clinic. There was a very small number of women at this clinic that were pretty radical in their beliefs of acceptable training methods. They were not girls from a horse background and they were pretty judgmental and closed minded about it. The ring leader has her own barn where she trains and gives lessons and "rehabs rescue horses". You know the type. They didn't stop at the racing industry, ALL show disciplines were deemed unacceptable in their eyes. It's time to put our "hurt emotions" aside and start caring about sport horses' welfare and the view we allow the outside world to see of our world. And that applies to all horse deaths and injuries while competing or training. |
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              Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | This is so sad, I had to find out what happen and read that he was just finishing up his work out and then started to slow down and stumbled went down and that was it.. Poor baby, I hated to hear that about Medina Spirit. He was really loved by alot.  |
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| GLP - 2021-12-06 9:44 PM
cranky B4 10am - 2021-12-06 6:12 PM
Just read that he died today. Apparently from a heart attack. So sad. 
Every one in that barn SHOULD care what happened right now. We need to police ourselves before our horse sports are taken from us because it's going to be a fight that is coming sooner than we would like to think. Outsiders are just waiting to end our horse sports and there are a lot of uninformed horse owners who starting to decry our horse sports. We were talking about this last weekend at a R+ clinic. There was a very small number of women at this clinic that were pretty radical in their beliefs of acceptable training methods. They were not girls from a horse background and they were pretty judgmental and closed minded about it. The ring leader has her own barn where she trains and gives lessons and "rehabs rescue horses". You know the type. They didn't stop at the racing industry, ALL show disciplines were deemed unacceptable in their eyes. It's time to put our "hurt emotions" aside and start caring about sport horses' welfare and the view we allow the outside world to see of our world. And that applies to all horse deaths and injuries while competing or training.
i think you need to reread they say a heart attck but he will be autosyied, the backstrech does cared. i worked track 1 goes down u cry you get upset as ur with these guys 24/7. i do not know how it is now but in the 60 /70 u literally slept in front of stall before big races. grooms slep at the end of shedrows. i galloped had a few go down you do cry but u also have 3 or 4 more that need ur care. here is no luxrury of stopping. not pointing fingers but its a hard life on thebackside it takes someone really special |
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| vjls - 2021-12-07 7:21 PM
GLP - 2021-12-06 9:44 PM
cranky B4 10am - 2021-12-06 6:12 PM
Just read that he died today. Apparently from a heart attack. So sad. 
Every one in that barn SHOULD care what happened right now. We need to police ourselves before our horse sports are taken from us because it's going to be a fight that is coming sooner than we would like to think. Outsiders are just waiting to end our horse sports and there are a lot of uninformed horse owners who starting to decry our horse sports. We were talking about this last weekend at a R+ clinic. There was a very small number of women at this clinic that were pretty radical in their beliefs of acceptable training methods. They were not girls from a horse background and they were pretty judgmental and closed minded about it. The ring leader has her own barn where she trains and gives lessons and "rehabs rescue horses". You know the type. They didn't stop at the racing industry, ALL show disciplines were deemed unacceptable in their eyes. It's time to put our "hurt emotions" aside and start caring about sport horses' welfare and the view we allow the outside world to see of our world. And that applies to all horse deaths and injuries while competing or training.
i think you need to reread they say a heart attck but he will be autosyied, the backstrech does cared. i worked track 1 goes down u cry you
get upset as ur with these guys 24/7. i do not know how it is now but in the 60 /70 u literally slept in front of stall before big races. grooms slep at the end of shedrows. i galloped had a few go down you do cry but u also have 3 or 4 more that need ur care. here is no luxrury of stopping.
not pointing fingers but its a hard life on thebackside it takes someone really special
The line reads "nobody in that barn cares why it happened right now...they are hurting because it did." If I worked with that horse I would be demanding to know what happened as soon as it happened. I would want to know because I did care about the horse. Anytime something happens to an animal I care for I want to know why it happened so I can do what I can to prevent it from happening to my other animals. When my daughter was having seizures as a baby I wanted to know why before I mourned that she was having them. When my son had severe asthma attacks as a child I wanted to know what caused it so I could possibly prevent them. Hiding behind "hurt" doesn't help anything and in my experience usually means less about really caring and more about fear of discovery, especially with Bafferts recent history. If racing didn't have so many deaths maybe I would but the "hurt" line, but nothing seems to be changing to the horses' good, so yeah I stand by what I wrote.
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         Location: North Dakota | Looks like Bob drugging his horses caught up to him. The racing industry seriously needs to clean up their act. I know there are a lot of good honest trainers that love their horses but there are far too many that don't care. |
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       Location: torrington, wy | WOW talk about agressive!!! I have no idea who you are, But your claim the horse was druged is totaly out of the box. You may not like Mr Baffert and some of the things that have happened in his barn. I would call this Out Right Slander. |
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| Teflon Bob, I remember when 7 horses died in a period of like 7 weeks from something like the milk shake or cobra drink. Nothing happened. I know that he has great success, and I love American Pharoah, but he does tend to have a lot of violations. |
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  The Original Cyber Bartender
          Location: Washington | I knew I shouldn't clicked on this thread. You know it's easy to lob bombs at someone that is standing at the head of the rest. The man has trained T/B for over 30 years. He get's the best horses, he is sought out by owners. He probably get's three times amount of horses then the rest of the trainers, so the odds of **** happening increase. If your gonna throw insults at him in name calling, then by God do the same for the other trainers, because they all have them! The thread is about a loss of a great special horse, a horse that outran his pedigree and always gave his all and showed his heart every run. I will never understand those who down played this horse at every turn, I blame it on their lack of not actually watching his races. He was a horse that loved what he did, and why most equnes couldn't get past him because he dug in and asked more of himself, he accepted the challenge and won, ironic that this ended up what his life being also, a challenge to prove himself time after time from the nay sayers. His heart gave out....because he gave it all to us, but he still knew where the finish line was. This wonderful equine was a gift and I for one am glad God shared him with us. |
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  Witty Enough
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        Location: CTX | fatchance - 2021-12-08 10:46 AM
I knew I shouldn't clicked on this thread. You know it's easy to lob bombs at someone that is standing at the head of the rest. The man has trained T/B for over 30 years. He get's the best horses, he is sought out by owners. He probably get's three times amount of horses then the rest of the trainers, so the odds of **** happening increase. If your gonna throw insults at him in name calling, then by God do the same for the other trainers, because they all have them!
The thread is about a loss of a great special horse, a horse that outran his pedigree and always gave his all and showed his heart every run. I will never understand those who down played this horse at every turn, I blame it on their lack of not actually watching his races. He was a horse that loved what he did, and why most equnes couldn't get past him because he dug in and asked more of himself, he accepted the challenge and won, ironic that this ended up what his life being also, a challenge to prove himself time after time from the nay sayers.
His heart gave out....because he gave it all to us, but he still knew where the finish line was.
This wonderful equine was a gift and I for one am glad God shared him with us.
This here is why I posted it. Not to try and get people riled up. Horses can and do get heart attacks, with or without meds and drugs....
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