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Revisiting horse feed mills and cross contamination

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want2chase3
Reg. May 2009
Posted 2022-05-18 12:35 PM
Subject: RE: Revisiting horse feed mills and cross contamination



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CanCan - 2022-05-18 12:06 PM


So I just asked this question in my feed store. I was told that the feed is bagged at a Nutrena plant. I was also told that Nutrena has totally different facilities for bagging horsefeed and cow. I hope this is true. The guy said the FDA actually requires this.


I hope its true too. They should have separate facilities all together. I do not know enough about nutrena to say. I was told they don't even make medicated feed in Texas or Oklahoma mills but when I pressed a little more, I got the safety protocol in place speech. So I thought why do you need those in place if you don't make medicated feed in these mills? They can give you the run around as much as they want. Fancy wording, FDA this FDA that... I don't believe it. FDA doesn't classify west feeds as a medicated mill yet they clearly handle medicated IONOPHORE feed there. Sorry but FDA holds zero merit with me. Nutrena had a pretty big issue years back with poisoning horses with ionophores. What do they get? A slap, a fine, a few lost customers? In my opinion,  the only sure fire way to avoid it is to buy from 100% equine based feed companies or 100% ionophore free companies. Not the FDA says we are this so, that's what we are... or strict safety protocols in place. Stuff happens. That's just my opinion though and it always surprises me that so many people don't know about this ... and vets don't either.  

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winwillows
Reg. Jul 2013
Posted 2022-05-18 4:57 PM
Subject: RE: Revisiting horse feed mills and cross contamination


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Safety related to medicated feed has a simple answer. Do feed any horse a feed that is produced in a mill that also makes medicated cattle or poultry feed on the same property. While there is a very exhaustive protocol to clean blending and packaging equipment to prevent contamination of equine feed, you are relying on perfect execution of those protocols to provide a clean environment for the next product run. It has been proven time and time again that this is not a perfect answer to prevent cross contamination. It takes very little ionophore contamination to kill a horse. Now that lab techniques have evolved to detect much lower amounts in feed, we are seeing that levels that were below detectable amounts before can and do have a very negative effect on a horses heart muscle. While this may not kill a horse outright, it affects their ability to thirve and be usefull from that point on. The point here is that, just because your horse is still alive, it may still have been compromised by ionophore contamination at a very very low level. There are safe mills making only equine feed. If you get the run around when you ask, or get a statement about safety protocols used, whoever is telling you that is covering their ass. The only proper answer is this. "No medications of any kind used or allowed on the property. Only equine feeds made on the property". 

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kwanatha
Reg. Dec 2003
Posted 2022-05-20 5:11 PM
Subject: RE: Revisiting horse feed mills and cross contamination


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winwillows - 2022-05-18 2:57 PM


Safety related to medicated feed has a simple answer. Do feed any horse a feed that is produced in a mill that also makes medicated cattle or poultry feed on the same property. While there is a very exhaustive protocol to clean blending and packaging equipment to prevent contamination of equine feed, you are relying on perfect execution of those protocols to provide a clean environment for the next product run. It has been proven time and time again that this is not a perfect answer to prevent cross contamination. It takes very little ionophore contamination to kill a horse. Now that lab techniques have evolved to detect much lower amounts in feed, we are seeing that levels that were below detectable amounts before can and do have a very negative effect on a horses heart muscle. While this may not kill a horse outright, it affects their ability to thirve and be usefull from that point on. The point here is that, just because your horse is still alive, it may still have been compromised by ionophore contamination at a very very low level. There are safe mills making only equine feed. If you get the run around when you ask, or get a statement about safety protocols used, whoever is telling you that is covering their ass. The only proper answer is this. "No medications of any kind used or allowed on the property. Only equine feeds made on the property". 


yes to this... the protocol is only as good as the employee. Well i have had pretty poor service lately... i just do not care about their talking points anymore

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cowgirlup012002
Reg. May 2005
Posted 2022-05-22 7:35 PM
Subject: RE: Revisiting horse feed mills and cross contamination



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Bluebonnet is a ionophore FREE mill. 

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