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| I have my gelding on Forco. He's been on it for probably three months now. He's been very gassy lately, some diarrhea. Looking for a daily probiotic that doesn't absolutely break the bank. I'd like to start it fairly quickly in the next couple of days. Is probios good? |
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| I don't know if something has changed or what but I just haven't been having much success with forco over the last few months, it hasn't helped with the things it use to help with lately. Time to move on. Or maybe just depends on the horse. Provision gets a lot of positive reviews and it's very affordable. They also have a paste that works very good and quickly. I never had much luck with probios either. |
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| I took him off succeed a couple months ago just because I really couldn't afford it. I have him on dac oil, forco, and exceed six way. I honestly haven't noticed a difference at all on Forco. I bought it a couple months ago to try based on a ton of reviews I've seen online. I tried gut x with absolutely no results. |
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     Location: Jersey Girl | I never had good luck with Forco, tried it once and it didn't seem to do anything. I recently started my mare on Ultracruz Probiotic. It's very affordable, one bag will last one horse almost 3 months. |
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  Keeper of the King Snake
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    Location: Dubach, LA | emricmacy - 2022-12-07 8:05 AM
I took him off succeed a couple months ago just because I really couldn't afford it. I have him on dac oil, forco, and exceed six way. I honestly haven't noticed a difference at all on Forco. I bought it a couple months ago to try based on a ton of reviews I've seen online. I tried gut x with absolutely no results.
I think that's two too many supplements that all are formulated to do basically the same thing. I'd pick one and try it for 60 days and move to the next one. |
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      Location: Willows, CA | How a probiotic works, or dosen't really depends on the rest of the diet. If there is more than three pounds of grain based feed in the diet then a probiotic can be helpful in trying to keep the hind gut functional. More starch and sugar dumped into the hind gut can be a challenge no matter what brand it is. With the big changes in feed ingredient pricing this year the least cost formulated feeds are a different formula every time you buy a bag based on what ingredients can be bought for the least amount of money. That is why people are finding that some supplementation to grain based feed diets are not working like they did in the past. Even though the feed bag is the same every purchase, what is inside it is not. This constant change of diet is a challenge for the horses digestive system. Reduce grain, feed a fixed formula feed, (you can identify this by seeing the ingredient list printed on the bag itself rather than on a added tag that can be printed differently with every production lot), and you will likely see FORCO work like it did in the past. It is just asking a lot of the horse to adjust to a different diet every time you open a new bag of feed. |
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| He wasn't on the Forco and gut x at the same time. I gave the gut x a 60 day try. It was more like six months he's been off the succeed. He's been on Forco for nearly 2 months now. I'm not mixing them together. |
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| Thank you for the info! It is definitely appreciated. He is on 2 pounds of safe choice Original grain a day. 2 pounds of nutrena top line balancer a day. He is hypp n/h. He's been on the safechoice original for 4 years now. He has never had an episode since I have owned him. Do you have any recommendations on changes that I could make? I am always nervous with changes as I don't want to trigger an episode. The barn I board him at is great, I can make any changes to his grain that I want to. |
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      Location: Willows, CA | emricmacy - 2022-12-07 1:02 PM
Thank you for the info! It is definitely appreciated. He is on 2 pounds of safe choice Original grain a day. 2 pounds of nutrena top line balancer a day. He is hypp n/h. He's been on the safechoice original for 4 years now. He has never had an episode since I have owned him. Do you have any recommendations on changes that I could make? I am always nervous with changes as I don't want to trigger an episode. The barn I board him at is great, I can make any changes to his grain that I want to.
What is your roughage, Hay or pasture situation for this horse? How often is it worked? Both of the products that you are feeding have soy, corn, wheat and molasses in them. All ingredients that I am cautious about in an HYPP horse, or any horse for that matter.. That said, your answer may be in better roughage and less added feed supplementation all togeather. That is always a good start to normalize the digestive system. HYPP can be a management challenge. The fact that you are seeing digestive issues may well be from the soy. Is this an ongoing problem, or recent. If recent, it may be from the constant formulation changes. |
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| He has access to 24/7 hay. No pasture. Ridden/lunged 3-4 times a week. Hay quality is mediocre. Varies quite a bit with what barn owner buys. Some batches of the square bales she buys are great, others are so so. It's always different. I saw triple crown came out with a balancer. My local tractor supply carry's a decent amount of triple crown. Don't know too much about the company though. I know with hypp horses the potassium has to be super low. His gassiness is something new past 2 weeks. Edited to add I'm potentially looking into triple crown low starch pellet grain. Thoughts? Their website said it's recommended to feed 6 lbs a day of that grain. I feed 2lbs a day..I'm confused on what's right.
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       Location: Opelousas, LA | I really like ADR from Stride. |
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| Thank you! Do you feed it daily? How long does a tub last you? |
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      Location: Willows, CA | emricmacy - 2022-12-07 6:32 PM
He has access to 24/7 hay. No pasture. Ridden/lunged 3-4 times a week. Hay quality is mediocre. Varies quite a bit with what barn owner buys. Some batches of the square bales she buys are great, others are so so. It's always different. I saw triple crown came out with a balancer. My local tractor supply carry's a decent amount of triple crown. Don't know too much about the company though. I know with hypp horses the potassium has to be super low. His gassiness is something new past 2 weeks. Edited to add I'm potentially looking into triple crown low starch pellet grain. Thoughts? Their website said it's recommended to feed 6 lbs a day of that grain. I feed 2lbs a day..I'm confused on what's right.
Tripple Crown has been around for years, and has enjoyed a pretty good reputation for quality. I do not know if they least cost formulate or not. You might call them and ask if you are interested in one of their feeds. Lots of companies who did premium feeds with fixed formulations have changed that in the current economy. Ask if the one you are interested in has soy. I try to avoid soy, corn or wheat in any horse formulation. You should also ask about potassium level. Your diet should be under 1.5% potassium for the whole diet. |
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| I am just chatting with them right now. The low starch does have some soy and wheat meddlings in it. Corn free. And they are still a fixed feed company. |
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