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Lucky86
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I agree with you. My horse is doing nothing, I doubt he cares he's getting several months off. Might be seen as a waste to some as he is a nice horse but I have no reason to sell him. The dogs I do worry about, my jack russel I believe will be fine she's weird about people but oddly loves baby things, the mixed breed of who knows what idk she's rough and not the brightest. It's not like I'll ever leave my son unsupervised with the animals though, I can't rehome the dogs nobody else would put up with them.
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spitzh
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I had to let my gelding sit for 8 months but It didnt hurt his performance level when i started riding him again. My dogs spent the first week outside, they were a little to much to handle with a newborn. My lab can still get out of control with my daughter so he has to stay on his bed if he is in the house. Maybe being pregnant and owning horses/pets can be overhelming for some folks, so they decide to let them go. Its sad..........
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Just Plain Lucky
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I think rehoming is a lot different than dumping. 

 
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I have had people tell me that since I am pregnant and all they want my Doberman. I've been given 100 different reasons of why I should give them my dog, and all of them are bull. I think they just make crap up on their way over here hoping that I will believe them. My dogs and cats aren't going anywhere. 

I have also been told that I need to get rid of my ducks because I don't have time for them. They are ducks, they aren't tame ducks. All they care about is food, water, bugs, and a place to swim. They also told me that I should take them and let them loose at our local park. My ducks aren't bothering anybody.
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Dr. J
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missroselee - 2013-11-20 9:24 AM  

OMG - They are pretty! I love them. You have totally convinced me to go with a tortoise instead of turtles. You can send one or two to Oklahoma if you want!  

As far as people giving up pets - I am kind of judgemental about that, but I did have to re-home my turtles (red ear sliders) when I went back to medical school. My available time, money and circumstances changed to where I couldn't take good care of them anymore. So even though I don't have kids I can understand how your priorities can change.

It still makes me angry when they just dump them at shelters though.

Sidenote - I'll have to pick your brain about which tortoise species you recommend for a pet sometime.
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missroselee
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I'm not judging people.  Really I'm not.  But just like every other human being on this planet, and along with even those judging me right now, I have my moments when I have to vent.  Plain and simple.

This gal was obviously upset over this.  I don't know exactly what her reasons were. Maybe money, maybe lack of support from her spouse.  And I shouldn't make it sound like I'm picking on her.  It was a snowball effect because in the last few months we have come across tons of situations like this.  I know every story is different and everyone has a reason, but I just wanted to vent a lil.  And it helps hearing from people in those situations where they had no choice.....
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missroselee
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Dr. J - 2013-11-20 2:42 PM
missroselee - 2013-11-20 9:24 AM  
OMG - They are pretty! I love them. You have totally convinced me to go with a tortoise instead of turtles. You can send one or two to Oklahoma if you want!  



As far as people giving up pets - I am kind of judgemental about that, but I did have to re-home my turtles (red ear sliders) when I went back to medical school. My available time, money and circumstances changed to where I couldn't take good care of them anymore. So even though I don't have kids I can understand how your priorities can change.



It still makes me angry when they just dump them at shelters though.



Sidenote - I'll have to pick your brain about which tortoise species you recommend for a pet sometime.

Red footed :)  I always recommend those first.  Very hard, easy to care for, and extremely sociable. 
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Dr. J
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Posted 2013-11-20 1:55 PM
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missroselee - 2013-11-20 1:45 PM
Dr. J - 2013-11-20 2:42 PM
missroselee - 2013-11-20 9:24 AM  
OMG - They are pretty! I love them. You have totally convinced me to go with a tortoise instead of turtles. You can send one or two to Oklahoma if you want!  



As far as people giving up pets - I am kind of judgemental about that, but I did have to re-home my turtles (red ear sliders) when I went back to medical school. My available time, money and circumstances changed to where I couldn't take good care of them anymore. So even though I don't have kids I can understand how your priorities can change.



It still makes me angry when they just dump them at shelters though.



Sidenote - I'll have to pick your brain about which tortoise species you recommend for a pet sometime.
Red footed :)  I always recommend those first.  Very hard, easy to care for, and extremely sociable. 

Like the ones you just got? Do they get very big?

I'll definitely do a lot of research again about tortoises before I get one. I did that with my sliders and gave them great care. But one thing I never thought about was the increasing cost of their tank as they got bigger. Huge aquariums are really expensive to maintain, and when I went back to medical school I just couldn't do it anymore. Plus all the time it took to keep their tank clean and not smelly (even with two filters running, sliders are kinda dirty! LOL).  I had them 4 years and had to upgrade to bigger tanks every year.
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dme0324
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SC Wrangler - 2013-11-20 10:58 AM You know there is a huge difference between reponsibly re-homing a pet and just throwing them away.   

That's all I was really trying to say  
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missroselee
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Posted 2013-11-20 2:03 PM
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Dr. J - 2013-11-20 2:55 PM
missroselee - 2013-11-20 1:45 PM
Dr. J - 2013-11-20 2:42 PM
missroselee - 2013-11-20 9:24 AM  
OMG - They are pretty! I love them. You have totally convinced me to go with a tortoise instead of turtles. You can send one or two to Oklahoma if you want!  



As far as people giving up pets - I am kind of judgemental about that, but I did have to re-home my turtles (red ear sliders) when I went back to medical school. My available time, money and circumstances changed to where I couldn't take good care of them anymore. So even though I don't have kids I can understand how your priorities can change.



It still makes me angry when they just dump them at shelters though.



Sidenote - I'll have to pick your brain about which tortoise species you recommend for a pet sometime.
Red footed :)  I always recommend those first.  Very hard, easy to care for, and extremely sociable. 
Like the ones you just got? Do they get very big?



I'll definitely do a lot of research again about tortoises before I get one. I did that with my sliders and gave them great care. But one thing I never thought about was the increasing cost of their tank as they got bigger. Huge aquariums are really expensive to maintain, and when I went back to medical school I just couldn't do it anymore. Plus all the time it took to keep their tank clean and not smelly (even with two filters running, sliders are kinda dirty! LOL).  I had them 4 years and had to upgrade to bigger tanks every year.

Mature ones will get about 20 inches or so.  We build all our habitats so its fairly cheap.  And since tortoises are land and now water reptiles, they are much easier to maintain.

And yes, the three I just got, along with Fred that I already have, are all red foots. 
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dme0324
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missroselee - 2013-11-20 1:45 PM I'm not judging people.  Really I'm not.  But just like every other human being on this planet, and along with even those judging me right now, I have my moments when I have to vent.  Plain and simple.



This gal was obviously upset over this.  I don't know exactly what her reasons were. Maybe money, maybe lack of support from her spouse.  And I shouldn't make it sound like I'm picking on her.  It was a snowball effect because in the last few months we have come across tons of situations like this.  I know every story is different and everyone has a reason, but I just wanted to vent a lil.  And it helps hearing from people in those situations where they had no choice.....

I didn't mean to be judging you -- as I said, no way my cat was going any where unless she became a problem -- I also understand the need to vent/question sometimes. 

What kills me worse, is the people I've known that do this over, over and over again!  Get a pet, oh it's not what I thought -- re-home it & get another, repeatedly.   Those are the ones that make me ill & sad.  
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missroselee
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dme0324 - 2013-11-20 2:58 PM
SC Wrangler - 2013-11-20 10:58 AM You know there is a huge difference between reponsibly re-homing a pet and just throwing them away.   
That's all I was really trying to say  

I get that.  I really do. 
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missroselee
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Posted 2013-11-20 2:06 PM
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missroselee - 2013-11-20 1:45 PM I'm not judging people.  Really I'm not.  But just like every other human being on this planet, and along with even those judging me right now, I have my moments when I have to vent.  Plain and simple.



This gal was obviously upset over this.  I don't know exactly what her reasons were. Maybe money, maybe lack of support from her spouse.  And I shouldn't make it sound like I'm picking on her.  It was a snowball effect because in the last few months we have come across tons of situations like this.  I know every story is different and everyone has a reason, but I just wanted to vent a lil.  And it helps hearing from people in those situations where they had no choice.....
I didn't mean to be judging you -- as I said, no way my cat was going any where unless she became a problem -- I also understand the need to vent/question sometimes. 



What kills me worse, is the people I've known that do this over, over and over again!  Get a pet, oh it's not what I thought -- re-home it & get another, repeatedly.   Those are the ones that make me ill & sad.  

You weren't, I'm just sensitive when it comes to pets is all.

And you are dead on, there are so many people that toss pets aside when they aren't pregnant or have a good reason.  I know someone who gets a new dog every other month because several have died or just run off. 
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But at least you came up with a solution to being able to KEEP the cat!
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Another reason why I get so upset when people get rid of their animals is that when they take them to a shelter.... let's say they BOUGHT the dog.... so they've fueled demand for DOGS by a breeder... then they don't want it anymore and dump it at the shelter 6mos. later because they never THOUGHT about what they would do with it if they had a baby.... this is a cycle and this is ONE REASON why so many dogs don't have homes!! Because now it's not a cute little puppy and people aren't as likely to adopt it... I would say people shouldn't BUY a dog and create demand if they don't have the foresight to see what will become of it should they have a baby....
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 I have always wondered this same thing, but now I am pregnant, and faced with this issue myself, Im worrying. My horses wont be a problem, my cat wont be an issue, but I am really not sure if our Blue Heeler can be trusted with an infant.





Hubby and I have talked a lot about this in the past couple weeks. Radar is cool with kids 3 & up- that we know, but we're really not sure how he'll be with an infant rolling around on the floor. We are on the fence on weather we wait until baby is here and see how he is, or if its worth taking that risk. Hubby is picturing worse case scenario where the dog takes a chunk out of our kid's face, and says he could never forgive himself if that happened (Im really not sure I could either), but on the other hand we've had the dog almost 5 years, he's well trained, we just dont really trust him with cats, or other small animals as he is a heeler, and has very strong heeler instincts so really not sure where to go from here.



I love Radar, and he usually stays in the porch, but what if? That's the big question.... 


I would wait until you have the baby to make up your mind!! Heelers are very loyal and he may suprise you with the baby! Our heeler is almost 10 and our son is 5, and they are rarely without each other. now. He was awesome with him as a baby. If they have any obedience or manners I can't foresee it being an issue. At least it wasn't for us. Our heeler will kill any cat, mouse, gopher, etc in sight. But he super gentle and understanding of our son.

I really think we'll wait until baby is here and see what happens. It will either go very well, or very bad right from the get go is my guess... cross your fingers for us!  
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I am also pregnant, 27 weeks and I do have one of my horses for sale. I have three horses and work full time we were not planning to have a baby and I was in the process of training my young horse to be my back up barrel horse when I found out. Hes an amazing horse but I restarted him last year, he is young and he has bucked here and there so I dont feel comfortable riding him till after the baby. Originally I had hoped to lease him out and had several people at my barn saying they wanted to use him for this or that but months later no one is using him for anything and though I longe, pony and long line him as well as turn him out he is ****ed that hes not being ridden and worked and though the baby will be here shortly being as I will have my hands full with a new born, still working full time and my other horse who I hope to be competing on shortly after the baby arrives I really dont think I am going to have the time he deserves any time soon. If I am being selfish I would hold on to him because he is an amazing horse and I love him but for his sake I am offering him for sale because he deserves someone who has the time right now to take him to his potential and make him happy. If the right person doesnt come along I will keep him because the wrong fit isnt fair to him either.
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missroselee - 2013-11-20 9:24 AM  

Awwww how darn cute ...... When I die I hope I can come back as a Tortoise and come live with you      All the animals that I had when I got pregnant with my boys stayed with me till they died of old age, I dont get rid of any of my animals, they are here for life with this family 
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Tys-ol-lady - 2013-11-20 2:51 PM
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Tys-ol-lady - 2013-11-20 9:20 AM

 I have always wondered this same thing, but now I am pregnant, and faced with this issue myself, Im worrying. My horses wont be a problem, my cat wont be an issue, but I am really not sure if our Blue Heeler can be trusted with an infant.





Hubby and I have talked a lot about this in the past couple weeks. Radar is cool with kids 3 & up- that we know, but we're really not sure how he'll be with an infant rolling around on the floor. We are on the fence on weather we wait until baby is here and see how he is, or if its worth taking that risk. Hubby is picturing worse case scenario where the dog takes a chunk out of our kid's face, and says he could never forgive himself if that happened (Im really not sure I could either), but on the other hand we've had the dog almost 5 years, he's well trained, we just dont really trust him with cats, or other small animals as he is a heeler, and has very strong heeler instincts so really not sure where to go from here.



I love Radar, and he usually stays in the porch, but what if? That's the big question.... 


I would wait until you have the baby to make up your mind!! Heelers are very loyal and he may suprise you with the baby! Our heeler is almost 10 and our son is 5, and they are rarely without each other. now. He was awesome with him as a baby. If they have any obedience or manners I can't foresee it being an issue. At least it wasn't for us. Our heeler will kill any cat, mouse, gopher, etc in sight. But he super gentle and understanding of our son.
I really think we'll wait until baby is here and see what happens. It will either go very well, or very bad right from the get go is my guess... cross your fingers for us!  

It really comes down to knowing your dog's warning signs and not leaving them alone together or "trusting" the dog too much. Most people get in trouble when they think their dog would never do anything, instead of just being cautious to make sure that never happens. My ex-husband's Rott bit my son on the head when he was a toddler. Not enough to really damage him but he did break the skin, and he was crawling past him about 3 feet away they said. They wouldn't watch the dog because they said "He would never hurt him.". I wouldn't ever let him around the dog because I didn't trust him at all, he was off. That day I wasn't there though.

I have a Doberman and a Boxer. Both of them can't be around young kids for different reasons, well they can but not without me right on top of them watching. The Doberman is 210% energy and I really think she doesn't have a clue how big she really is. She has been around a lot of kids and loves them, but if they are babies I keep her away completely. There is no reason for her or any other dog to be around an infant IMO. If they are toddlers and want to pet her I have her lay down beside me and they love all over her and she thinks that is the best thing ever. I do have to hold her front feet because if they stop petting she starts pawing or she starts going through her tricks at mach speeds... and man her legs are powerful. It hurts me when she paws me. I make her lay down because her favorite thing to do is run full speed through the house and/or spin circles as fast as she can and her brakes don't work well. Older kids she is fine with, they run and play together and get back up if she knocks them over and think it is fun to have her sit and stay while they get a head start to race her. Then they say she cheated when she wins lol.

The Boxer was around since before my 9 year old was born. He doesn't like ears pulled etc and I don't blame him. He will get up and walk away if a toddler gets close to him, he usually comes and lays by me. I can tell by the look on his face that he wants no part of the ear pulling, eye poking that he associates with small kids, and geeze don't touch his tail. If I tell the kid (Whether it is mine or someone else's) to leave the puppy alone and they won't I put him up. (Well if it is my kid, I just make them leave the puppy alone) He doesn't like kids messing with him period. He is content sitting beside me watching everyone with a blank stare on his face lol.

Both are great with kids that are out of the toddler stage though and respect dogs, I won't tolerate any kid (mine or someone else's) pushing my dog's buttons. If I say leave them alone I mean it, and they aren't going to crawl all over them while their parents expect my dogs to sit and take it... they are not toys.

I am expecting in March and they just won't be around the baby. We have a 2 acre back yard that we fenced with 6 foot fence just for this purpose, and baby gates will be put up to keep them out of the same room as the baby when they are inside because of the heat/cold... unless I want them in there with me.

I would rather be over protective when it comes to my kids being around my dogs, then being to lax and regretting it.
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I love my dogs but if they were ever aggressive or mean around my boys they would be gone. I would never take a chance with my kids. However, I did not get rid of any of my animals before my kids were born. I waited to see how they were with the babies and luckily they loved them from day one.
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