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     Location: Down South | I think I've posted this question on here before, but here goes again. . .
I'm an NBHA director for my local district. I struggle every year with the same people working every show. What are some programs/incentives/rules/rewards that you have in your club (whether it be NBHA, saddle club, etc).
I just want to find a happy and fair medium for all of my district members. I want my/our district shows to run smoothly and make it an enjoyable experience for everyone. I don't like when I have to continually announce for help. I sound like I'm mean . . and I'm really not; just frustrated. It's hard work putting on a show and making it run smoothly.
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      Location: Mississippi | I know that some places you have to work a certain number or shows or hours in order to be eligible for year end awards :) |
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| CorinthCowgirl - 2013-12-11 10:07 AM I know that some places you have to work a certain number or shows or hours in order to be eligible for year end awards :)
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      Location: Okemah,OK | Pay them - I hate it but that's the only sure fire thing - and honestly, there are a lot of people that would rather pay a few extra bucks than have to work - sometimes they just don't want to (and I can understand that, I go to have fun too) and sometimes there are people that can't (young kids, mulitple horses, etc) - if you are asking for volunteers, you will always be asking for volunteers - it stinks but it is the way it is - some places also give people a free entry, stall, etc for working the WHOLE show - that way they can't just do a minimal amount and leave - you could give free entry or stall at the next race or have them be responsible for finding someone to fill their job while they run their horse, etc |
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       Location: Alabama | Have a working membership & a non-working membership. If the person is willing to work "X" amount, then they pay a lower fee. If they are not willing to work, then they pay a higher fee. Use that extra money to hire workers. I think our local club (non-NBHA) is $30 v/s $60. The difference is the equivalent of paying a worker for 3 hours. At the end of the year, if a working member has not worked, they are not "in good standing" so do not qualify for awards or state show. They have the option to pay the difference at that time to be in good standing. |
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  Location: south GA | We require members to either work X number of hours during a show or a clean up day on the club grounds in order to receive year end awards. Or they may donate $10 per hour towards year end funds or purchase items that we need, such as paper products and cleaning supplies for our club house, ink for the printer, etc. in lieu of working their hours.
We have actually had some that didn't do anything in the past start helping. |
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| We charged every one that entered a $1.00. Then we paid 2 people to set the barrels, that away when they run their horses, the other person could set all the barrels. We used retractable barrels for exhibitions, that away we didn't have to pay for those. But you could pay someone say $.50 for every horse that ran exhibitions. We never had a problem getting anyone to set up barrels. They could earn money to help with entries or whatever. All of the people liked doing that because they didn't have to work. Just offering a suggestion.
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     Location: Down South | CorinthCowgirl - 2013-12-11 9:07 AM I know that some places you have to work a certain number or shows or hours in order to be eligible for year end awards :)
This is what I currently do. Ask members to work some part of 3 shows throughout the year to be eligible for year-end awards. Typically I have 10 district shows a year. But here's the problem with that . . . if they're not standing good in the points for awards, then there's no incentive to work. I've got to come up with something totally different. |
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    Location: OK | We are trying to start a wall of shame sort of. We have active and inactive memberships. People pay less and say they will work, but they don't. So, we want to have a board, and when you work, your name gets marked on the board by an officer. The ones who didn't work aren't eligible for the lower memberships the next year. It also is pretty embarrassing because everyone can see it. |
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| This is why I hold zero memberships in any barrel racing associations. IMHO, whoever is putting on the barrel race should be making arrangements for a work crew, not depending on competitors to work. When I go to a barrel race, it is to compete. I have run as many as 4 horses at one race and don't have time to work the gate or set up barrels. I just pay the nonmember fee and am done with it.
If I only have one horse and nothing else to do, I have been known to step up and help even if I do not belong to the association. I don't mind helping, but don't "expect" it without asking me first. I can buy those year end awards a lot cheaper than what I pay in entry fees and most associations get more than their fair share in exhibitions of my young horses.
Yet another reason why I prefer rodeos to shows.
Each to their own.
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   Location: Ava, Missouri | In my district, we have to work 4 different shows to be eligible for year-end awards. If you don't want to work, then you don't get the awards. Simple as that.  Without workers, the shows wouldn't be able to run smoothly. Everyone in my district is willing to work and help out.  |
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        Location: Alberta | Turnin3GA - 2013-12-11 9:53 AM We require members to either work X number of hours during a show or a clean up day on the club grounds in order to receive year end awards. Or they may donate $10 per hour towards year end funds or purchase items that we need, such as paper products and cleaning supplies for our club house, ink for the printer, etc. in lieu of working their hours. We have actually had some that didn't do anything in the past start helping.
This is great!
The small play day club I'm in does a concession booth (main fundraiser) and had issues with people helping, so they said you either set down a time you will work it or pay $50.... |
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     Location: a secret | I am in a leadership role and I always include the group I need to motivate to ask them what it would take. Send out a survey get the people you need to motivate to help you. The group has to be part of the solution. I have gotten some great ideas and it empowers them that they helped to decide the success. Be creative think out of the box. Money does not motivate all people ( yes, most) but not all. |
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     Location: Qld Australia | Totally agree with you Rodeoveteran. My husband and I have worked our butts off for a couple of different clubs with no thanks and often a kick in the teeth. For one arena wE used to live about 20 -25 mins away. Three times during the night before a major show he got up and drove to the arena moving sprinklers. To ensure an even coverage.
We have multiple horses and show for clients. I am far too busy trying to work horses and look after my son to donate my time any more to clubs. As you said, I no longer am a member of many clubs due to these unrealistic expectations.
Living in the country, it is also over three hours to the nearest club - I am not going to donante time or drive this far for working bees, meeting etc. Been there, done that, waste of time and money and I don't have enough of either to waste.
Charge a little extra and pay people if you struggle to get helpers. |
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   Location: Kansas and loving it | 2014 is going to be my last year as a district rep. Partly because of having to work the show all the time. Partly because I am tired of the barrel racers screaming at me. I have been told not to encourage or cheer because it spooked the horse and caused an accident. Even though this horse had reportedly set an arena record at the lazy e. Back in the day. Being screamed at because the stalls had to be clean before leaving a show. Once I announced a time of 14.56, then I immediately corrected to a 15.56. Dhe went on and on how I got her hopes up then dashed them. Being accused of overcharging to make hand over fist money on stalls. Being attacked for the no tie out rule, which is the facilities rule, not the clubs. Of course being yelled at over ground is a given, but it gets old. Glad my time is coming to an end. I might be the slowest one out there, but I can't wait to just show up and run. |
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