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Location: Smack in the middle of WA! | I recently got a new mare and while she is fast and goes into a barrel great she is swinging her hip out when coming out of her turns. Just looking for some drills/exercises I could do with her to help this. She had about 30 days on the pattern before I got her and it was more of a rush job than anything else. I have slowed her back down and she is great slow but when I ask for speed she is throwing her hip out. |
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| hank520 - 2013-12-22 1:15 PM I recently got a new mare and while she is fast and goes into a barrel great she is swinging her hip out when coming out of her turns. Just looking for some drills/exercises I could do with her to help this. She had about 30 days on the pattern before I got her and it was more of a rush job than anything else. I have slowed her back down and she is great slow but when I ask for speed she is throwing her hip out.
Do the squares exercise. Behind the barrel stop her straight. |
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Location: Smack in the middle of WA! | What is the squares exercise? |
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Location: OK | Ride to the barrel. When you ask her to stop by it, push her hip in toward the barrel. Then walk straight forward, stop, plant her butt, do a kind of roll back where her back end plants but her front end moves over until you are facing toward the alley, then ride forward until your foot is past the barrel, then stop, plant her butt, do it again. Now you should be facing the next barrel. If you were drawing this on paper, instead of the barrel turn looking like a circle, it looks like a square kinda.
It makes a horse think about running in there, planting the butt, picking up the front. If you do it at a walk ALOT, when you go lope around, you can feel a difference.
Clear as mud? lol
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Location: Bandera, TX | jojammer - 2013-12-22 12:38 PM Ride to the barrel. When you ask her to stop by it, push her hip in toward the barrel. Then walk straight forward, stop, plant her butt, do a kind of roll back where her back end plants but her front end moves over until you are facing toward the alley, then ride forward until your foot is past the barrel, then stop, plant her butt, do it again. Now you should be facing the next barrel. If you were drawing this on paper, instead of the barrel turn looking like a circle, it looks like a square kinda. It makes a horse think about running in there, planting the butt, picking up the front. If you do it at a walk ALOT, when you go lope around, you can feel a difference. Clear as mud? lol
Perfect explanation. This really helps a horse, if the horse isn't spot on after a few weeks then have her stifles checked. |
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| My horse used to do this. I went to a clinic and she had me approach the pocket, ask him to move his hip and step in with the inside leg. Then I would pick up my hands and pick his shoulders up and move them one step out, then drop my outside rein and round nicely around the barrel. It helped him place that inside hind, and keep his shoulders up.. now approaching the barrel, he does it himself and knocked off some time |
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Location: Smack in the middle of WA! | Thanks so much! I'll try it next time I work her on barrels!  |
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Location: Peg-Leg Julia Grimm | Have you seen the way Yeah Hes Firen turns? I think there are 1465416516 different ways to train a horse and the same amount of ways for them to turn it. I believe in trying to train them my way, but in the end they need to be allowed to pick their way to get it done. As long as they aren't hitting barrels (which they won't with a hip out) and are clocking, what's the difference?  |
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| 1) sometimes they throw a hip because something (stifle, hock) hurts.
2) sometimes they do it because they feel that it's faster and easier
3) they haven't been taught properly to set themselves into the turn
If you can fix it you should, because this 'style' can have a higher chance at injury to the stifle and suspensories.
Try giving her more room getting into the turn, help her rate down and gather up before making the turn.
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Location: Riding Crackhead. | I will 2nd the Connie Combs Squares exercises. Connie helped me a ton with her drills. |
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Location: Smack in the middle of WA! | classicpotatochip - 2013-12-22 5:41 PM
1) sometimes they throw a hip because something (stifle, hock) hurts.
2) sometimes they do it because they feel that it's faster and easier
3) they haven't been taught properly to set themselves into the turn
If you can fix it you should, because this 'style' can have a higher chance at injury to the stifle and suspensories.
Try giving her more room getting into the turn, help her rate down and gather up before making the turn.
I feel that your number 3 is exactly what I'm dealing with. I think she had a rush job on the pattern and not enough slow work. She's a very hot mare, not stupid just really wants to please and in a hurry, which is why I think she's rushing to get out of the turn and swinging her hip out! I think once I get her set her inside leg the rest will come together! Which is why I am interested in some drills to help her |
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Location: North Dakota | Get off the pattern and work more straight lines teaching your horse how to balance itself correctly moving forward and the problem will take care of itself on the pattern. |
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| runs4fun - 2013-12-22 10:22 AM
hank520 - 2013-12-22 1:15 PM I recently got a new mare and while she is fast and goes into a barrel great she is swinging her hip out when coming out of her turns. Just looking for some drills/exercises I could do with her to help this. She had about 30 days on the pattern before I got her and it was more of a rush job than anything else. I have slowed her back down and she is great slow but when I ask for speed she is throwing her hip out.
Do the squares exercise. Behind the barrel stop her straight.
square exercises are awesome when your horse starts to swing hip out. When you start out, its going to look and feel like a mess but within a few rides your horse will start to understand. Within a week I started feeling my horse square up and stay underneath himself when turning the barrels. I like this exercise because your horse shouldnt get hot on the barrels when practicing. |
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