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| I had one like this. Before I sent him to a trainer he actually bucked with me every time I got on. With the trainer he never did, but as soon as I would get on him and would get the hump in his back. So I got where as soon as I got on I would immediately start turning circles one way and then the other. Just keeping his feet and mind busy. After a few circles, he would loose the hump and would be a nice ride. And I never round penned him before riding either. (In the past it hadn't worked with him. I also like one that you can just get on and go.) |
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Location: Way up North | just4fun - 2014-01-09 12:16 PM Just Let Me Run - 2014-01-09 11:35 AM just4fun - 2014-01-09 11:27 AM annemarea - 2014-01-09 5:12 AM This sounds like classic PSSM! The reason they "behave" better when exercised daily is because they hurt less. Please read my PSSM thread to understand how it can affect them. Good luck!
http://forums.barrelhorseworld.com/forum/forums/thread-view.asp?tid... I found your thread last night. Great read and super informative! I will have him tested. Thanks for the info.
Thanks to all who posted!
Also, what's the best way to go yanking out 40 tail hairs?! Ouch! lol! One at a time? A few at once? |
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I Am a Snake Killer
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Location: Golden Gulf Coast of Texas | Might also want to check for kissing spine disease. |
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Location: The Great Northwest | I go to ground work too to get their mind on you...safer too. The ground work is all about respect, pay attention, and do what I say now. This does help when mounted. You know some will forget this bucking in time. It is a lot of work for them, like one who scares and bolts. I would then go to Clinton Anderson's methods. Giving to pressure, fase, front end, back end, backing. Then start out these moves when mounted. All the desentsifing on the ground too. |
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Location: Missouri | skye - 2014-01-09 4:55 PM I go to ground work too to get their mind on you...safer too. The ground work is all about respect, pay attention, and do what I say now. This does help when mounted. You know some will forget this bucking in time. It is a lot of work for them, like one who scares and bolts. I would then go to Clinton Anderson's methods. Giving to pressure, fase, front end, back end, backing. Then start out these moves when mounted. All the desentsifing on the ground too.
This is where I'm a little confused... if I start off bending, and asking for body parts, I'm a little afraid he'll split in two! I usually start off by letting him move around first, without picking at him, then slowly start asking for more. I'm not sure which is best? |
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Location: Way up North | mreklaw - 2014-01-09 2:40 PM Might also want to check for kissing spine disease.
Have you had one checked? Do they just do xrays or? |
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Location: Iowa, LA | AllAroundRider - 2014-01-09 5:23 PM mreklaw - 2014-01-09 2:40 PM Might also want to check for kissing spine disease. Have you had one checked? Do they just do xrays or?
Before I ever biopsied my gelding, I did x-rays for kissing spine because he was more reactive to having his withers touched than my mare. My mare was more reactive to having her "lower back" touched/groomed. But, he was clean. That's when I decided to biopsy him. |
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Location: Golden Gulf Coast of Texas | AllAroundRider - 2014-01-09 5:23 PM
mreklaw - 2014-01-09 2:40 PM Might also want to check for kissing spine disease.
Have you had one checked? Do they just do xrays or?
Yes they do X-rays. Mine did have it. Started injecting and it helped a lot. No more bucking . |
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Location: MI | In reference to the groundwork, Stacy Westfall (on her blog) has videos of her breaking out her 2yo stud colt right now. They are pretty interesting to watch. Similar to Clinton, but enough different and she talks through everything she is doing. I've only gotten through video 10, but will keep watching them. Something to do in this freezing cold! |
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| I really believed mine had it but he came back negative. But i think he has ulcers as he did not do that as a 2 yo only when he got older he started as a 4 year old he started being weird as he would work well the first day at a horse show and act stupid on second and third was a nut case started being weid in the trailer also and once i twisted my vetsmarm to inject his hocks he was a different horse for,several years then my husband fell ill and did not show much then this year started showing not clocking after 2 vets not finding much except they love they way he moved, carried him to lamness specialist he said he is fusing and. I did do omeprozole for his gut sure made him quiet, but he has gotton so sore in his back from his hocks i have let him off for 30 days. So i am feed a low starch diet will,fix ulcers and pssm. but no grain. Will ride in a week or so next decent weekend as i had a small surgery. |
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Location: Way up North | annemarea - 2014-01-09 6:22 PM AllAroundRider - 2014-01-09 5:23 PM mreklaw - 2014-01-09 2:40 PM Might also want to check for kissing spine disease. Have you had one checked? Do they just do xrays or?
So are horses with kissing spine generally more sore in the withers or lumbar? I thought KS only affected lumbars? |
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Location: Iowa, LA | I was always under the impression it was in the thoracic area of the spine....here is an article about it:Kissing Spine Disease - Dorsal Spinous Impingement  - Skeleton of a horse
Dorsal Spinous Process (DSP) impingement or “Kissing Spines” is a condition recognized as a significant issue for horses. What constitutes the problem is debatable and how to make a conclusive diagnosis can be an elusive process. The following article will discuss the anatomic findings, diagnostic process, therapeutic options and prognosis. In order to understand the issues behind DSP impingement you have to understand a few anatomical factors. Generally the problem is located in the thoracic section of the vertebral column - the area where the rider sits. Less commonly, involvement of the lumbar vertebrae behind the saddle area can be the source of the problem. As you can see with the attached picture to the left, the thoracic vertebrae begin with the withers and go through the saddle area. -
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Location: Golden Gulf Coast of Texas | annemarea - 2014-01-10 6:38 AM
I was always under the impression it was in the thoracic area of the spine....here is an article about it:Kissing Spine Disease - Dorsal Spinous Impingement - Skeleton of a horse
Dorsal Spinous Process (DSP) impingement or “Kissing Spines” is a condition recognized as a significant issue for horses. What constitutes the problem is debatable and how to make a conclusive diagnosis can be an elusive process. The following article will discuss the anatomic findings, diagnostic process, therapeutic options and prognosis. In order to understand the issues behind DSP impingement you have to understand a few anatomical factors. Generally the problem is located in the thoracic section of the vertebral column - the area where the rider sits. Less commonly, involvement of the lumbar vertebrae behind the saddle area can be the source of the problem. As you can see with the attached picture to the left, the thoracic vertebrae begin with the withers and go through the saddle area. -
You are correct that is why they sometimes want to buck when you saddle them and put weight in that area. |
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