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  Shipwrecked and Flat Out Zapped
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          Location: DUMPING CATS AND PIGS IN TEXAS :) | I've got one too.....because I'm feeling a little frisky right now.....
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The Advice Guru
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| barrelracr131 - 2014-01-21 12:06 PM
cheryl makofka - 2014-01-21 12:00 PM I work in Alberta, and I guess we have much stricter confidentiality laws, as we cannot speak specifics outside of the hospital, no specific lab results, this is why I made the first comment. We are not to provide any information that could identify a certain client. With today's technology, anything can be found, and with lawyers who sue for malpractice they will find that information. Myself I a, not willing to gamble my liscence on what is or is not in violation of confidentiality laws. Also to the op yes it is frustrating, I swear I have seen it all, find that one person at work to talk to, seek guidance in your nursing instructors. I spoke with one instructor a few times in my first year. Now you are a professional, and the crappy thing about that is you should act like a professional at all times, as things you do outside of work clients will hold it against you especially of you work in a small town. The other thing is Facebook, I know there have been nurses in Canada fired over posting photos of themselves in the hospital with no patients in the picture, I suggest if you have not looked into your licensing body's regulation and your employers policy
you must have stricter laws
doctors here discuss patient results here all the time during rounds. This is a teaching hospital and they still operate under HIPAA guidelines.
things like test results and other general information, such as gender, weight, age, etc are not governed by HIPAA.
HIPAA relates to facial photographs, name, ss#, DOB, medical record number... specific patient identifiers. I can't tell you if what she said was a violation since I never saw it, but everything on this thread is acceptable.
If the discussion is done in hospitals during rounds that is in compliance with the laws as anyone who works or is a student at a hospital signs a confidentiality agreement.
The information that one employee collects and shares has to be crucial to direct patient care.
It is frustrating as my brother is a paraplegic, and grandmother is old. I cannot look at their records, and staff cannot share information with me. I had to get both family members to sign a release specifying any or all the information they will the nurse/doctor to share with me. |
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  Shipwrecked and Flat Out Zapped
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          Location: DUMPING CATS AND PIGS IN TEXAS :) | Reminds me of a song......
You've lost that loving feeling, oh that loving feeling Bring back that loving feeling, now it's gone, gone, gone And I can't go on, no oh oh Baby, baby, I get down on my knees for you If you would only love me like you used to do We had a love, a love, a love you don't find every day So don't, don't, don't let it slip away Bring back that loving feeling, oh that loving feeling Bring back that loving feeling, now it's gone, gone, gone And I can't go on, no oh oh |
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Hungarian Midget Woman
    Location: Midwest | did you watch cocktail yesterday? LOL ETA I meant top gun
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  Shipwrecked and Flat Out Zapped
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          Location: DUMPING CATS AND PIGS IN TEXAS :) | barrelracr131 - 2014-01-21 1:28 PM did you watch cocktail yesterday? LOL ETA I meant top gun
Nope, but I am feeling a bit loveless right now.......I'm gonna proabably need a hug....
jk, jk.....you can keep your hugs. I'll be ok.....after a case or two of Guniness and a few happy pills..... |
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Hungarian Midget Woman
    Location: Midwest | I'm gonna hug you anyway
I picture it going like this
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  Warmblood with Wings
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           Location: Florida.. | I didnt read it as I said before.. I dont think you did anything illegal.. I know you all like to discuss things. I guess I just felt that medical discussions regarding patients should be kept between medical personel. My previous post wasnt condoning you at all just want to make sure you know that. It is just a opinion of mine that I think ALL drs and medical people need to remember this is a public forum and not place to talk about patients . others feel differantly .. just was my opinion. I dont think its right. is it Illegal ? no.. is it right ? I personally dont think so.for ANYONE.. |
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          Location: DUMPING CATS AND PIGS IN TEXAS :) | barrelracr131 - 2014-01-21 1:38 PM I'm gonna hug you anyway
I picture it going like this

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Hungarian Midget Woman
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   Location: MI | cheryl makofka - 2014-01-21 12:00 PM
I work in Alberta, and I guess we have much stricter confidentiality laws, as we cannot speak specifics outside of the hospital, no specific lab results, this is why I made the first comment. We are not to provide any information that could identify a certain client.
With today's technology, anything can be found, and with lawyers who sue for malpractice they will find that information.
Myself I a, not willing to gamble my liscence on what is or is not in violation of confidentiality laws.
Also to the op yes it is frustrating, I swear I have seen it all, find that one person at work to talk to, seek guidance in your nursing instructors. I spoke with one instructor a few times in my first year.
Now you are a professional, and the crappy thing about that is you should act like a professional at all times, as things you do outside of work clients will hold it against you especially of you work in a small town.
The other thing is Facebook, I know there have been nurses in Canada fired over posting photos of themselves in the hospital with no patients in the picture, I suggest if you have not looked into your licensing body's regulation and your employers policy
I'm in MI (duh) and the hospitals here take it very seriously as well. We recently had some area hospital staff fired over discussing a patient on Facebook. No names, etc, but enough details that they fired the employees over the situation. No, the HIPAA law does not specifically govern Facebook, and actually, in one our my hospitals meetings they said that it doesn't apply to text messaging either (I believe because the law was written prior to all of this tech). But, some hospitals are still VERY sensitive on it, and honestly, probably should be. I'd hate to see staff blabbing about me. I am NOT a good patient! |
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Hungarian Midget Woman
    Location: Midwest | Three 4 Luck - 2014-01-21 1:08 PM Middle aged overweight dude not taking care of his diabetes really narrows things down, doncha think? thank you
that is hardly specific enough to identify someone...that is my point
HIPAA laws are very strict and are taken seriously... however I have never heard of someone getting fired for taking a photo in a hospital. If they are specific enough to be able to identify someone, that is an issue.. this was not even close...
talking about an obese, older person who fails to take care of their diabetic issues is hardly unique in this day and age...at least in the US...
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     Location: Where Governor's make the liscense plates | Thank you all for your opinions- I certainly didn't speak about this on facebook nor do I ever about my pts. I have seen numerous posts on here about healthcare subjects and am still not sure why I became a target. I'm over the pt and his self destructive ways either way I got my vent out :) happy trails folks |
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   Location: Nebraska | When in doubt, just don't say anything :) A lot of students here have gotten kicked out of nursing school for just posting that they witnessed a birth today at clinical. No identifying info, but people can find out where you are, then when you were there, then what babies were born during that time, and eventually what baby you are talking about. There are some creeps out there that'll do all of that. We had a huge talk about posting anything on the internet about work because chances are your coworkers will "like" or comment on it and then between all of you, a little info gets out unintentionally. Better to just be safe than sorry. It would suck to put in years of work to get to be a nurse and have it taken all away for a simple comment that you thought was harmless.
Instead of saying my patient's, it would have just been better to say that it frustrates you when people don't take care of themselves after they are given all the information about how to take care of themselves properly. |
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