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| My horse can turn on a dime and has all last year, but this year I brought her back and I can trot the pattern just fine, but when I lope her she dives in and turns the barrel beautifully but RIGHT after she turns it she will start ( crow hopping/ rearing) she has never done this before but does it every single time I work the pattern now. Note: she is still in training and is young but knows the pattern. Any suggestions on the rearing up part? |
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| If this is not normal behavior make sure she isn't hurting anywhere. I was always the one who did the training approach first but I have learned it is best to get another opinion. I have a mare that is super catty and she started diving into barrels and dropping her shoulder REALLY bad. I thought it was her, but she was out terribly bad on her left side. Had a few chiro appointments and was feeling great....then she got tendonitis. She has been out recovering from that. BUT my point is try getting a chiro out and she if she is sore or out anywhere. If you haven't already. |
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| She could possibly just be to fresh. Try getting her rode down first. |
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Location: Texas | You might be practicing too much. It sounds like she's starting to hate it, or something is bothering her, as she is protesting.
Most pattern work I do at home, I do walking or trotting. And if the horse is already patterned, we do not practice on the pattern at all.
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Location: Liberty Hill, TX | I have found in all my horses young or old, that if they are doing something way out of the norm, such as behavior problems, bucking, pinning ears, traveling out of balance, etc. That the first thing I check for is physical problems such as chiro problems, shoeing problems, dental problems, saddle fit problems, and then medical problems. I don't take any of those things lightly either. Then after all that is ruled out, I will go back to the training aspects. I have come to learn over the years that it usually ends up being some kind of physical reason. Hope that helps........
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Location: Great NW | She is probably Fresh or sore. What do you mean by "diving" into the turn. The horses that I have seen that "dive" into the turns have had some really bad wrecks when they added speed to the pattern. |
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Location: Middle Tennessee | I agree with everyone else to check her for pain. However, I talked about this on here a while back because a futurity horse I bought did the same thing... Badly!!! I was getting so frustrated. We got him adjusted, he did have some abnormalities on his navicular bone as a yearling, but was given a shot of Tildren and the degeneration stopped. He wasn't hurting. He had gotten in a bad habbit due to his trainer doing the rate exercise of stopping and backing up at the barrel... too harshly . I have had to spend A LOT of time calming him back done and "retraining" this effect. I used quietex (a calmer paste) before I rode him and he wouldn't do it on the calmer. He was just overly nervous. He still does it every now and then but is getting better. As for your horse, eliminate pain first. Then, try to determine if she is nervous/ unhappy. If so, try the quietex or some type of calmer. Maybe just some time off, too. Best of luck! |
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| She has been at the massage/Chiro already. When I say "dive in" I mean, hunt the barrel, get down, and turn on a dime. She is an outstanding barrel horse but now we are having problems. I just brought her back a month ago after a 4 month break and have been just conditioning her and now started the pattern the last three weeks not doing them every single day. She has never showed signs of being sick of it, when I point her to the barrels she wants to go go go but right after she turns a barrel she will all of a sudden get into a crowhop then get into a straight up rear. She has done it around my first and second barrels before. Mostly the second barrel. |
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Location: Middle Tennessee | Have you tried changing directions? Or just setting up one barrel and turning it both ways at the speed she gives you trouble? |
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| I would still say get hocks checked out, and is she rearing cause you are on her face too much, where is your body position, where are your hands.
Also what is your ground like, if it is hard I can see her bouncing. |
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| cheryl makofka - 2014-02-20 11:23 PM I would still say get hocks checked out, and is she rearing cause you are on her face too much, where is your body position, where are your hands. Also what is your ground like, if it is hard I can see her bouncing.
I ride just like I did last year and she did awesome. I sit my butt down in the saddle and let her do her thing. The ground was hard one of the nights it happened and freshly dug a different night. heres a link to a video of her first exhibition and when I started training her! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4wZfhh2DYDA |
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| whynotbarrelrace - 2014-02-21 8:42 PM
cheryl makofka - 2014-02-20 11:23 PM I would still say get hocks checked out, and is she rearing cause you are on her face too much, where is your body position, where are your hands. Also what is your ground like, if it is hard I can see her bouncing.
I ride just like I did last year and she did awesome. I sit my butt down in the saddle and let her do her thing. The ground was hard one of the nights it happened and freshly dug a different night. heres a link to a video of her first exhibition and when I started training her! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4wZfhh2DYDA
Hard ground can cause her hocks to be sore, and I watched one video, she is dumping on her front end going into her turns, then gets slowed down enough to get her hind end under rather her then her head pops up.
I am not seeing any rearing, this video was only 13 seconds long |
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Location: Where the pavement ends and the West begins Utah | Have your chiro check the shoulders for being out. If that isn't the problem x-ray the feet. |
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| cheryl makofka - 2014-02-21 8:56 PM Hard ground can cause her hocks to be sore, and I watched one video, she is dumping on her front end going into her turns, then gets slowed down enough to get her hind end under rather her then her head pops up. I am not seeing any rearing, this video was only 13 seconds long
That video was the good one. That's when I first started training her, it was meant to show how she did there and now she is rearing. |
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