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FlyingJT
Reg. Jan 2014
Posted 2014-02-26 4:58 PM
Subject: RE: Dry spots . . . a good thing??? Mind blown -- Pics added



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FlyingJT - 2014-02-26 5:20 PM

Does the Gullet width in front effect how wide the bars are in the back?

Traditionally, the gullet is 1/2" wider in the back than the front. Now, that may not be true anymore. you should have about 4 fingers width on any gullet tho to bridge over the spine.

If your saddle is rocking forward do you need a smaller width or does the bar angles and channel play a bigger role?
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Canchaser1587
Reg. Sep 2007
Posted 2014-02-26 6:40 PM
Subject: RE: Dry spots . . . a good thing??? Mind blown -- Pics added



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BARRELHORSE USA - 2014-02-25 2:00 PM Move the tugs of your breast collar down to the D rings of the saddle and get you a longer roper style mohair cinch 2 inches longer than the one she is wearing .. Your breast collar is pulling downwards on the swells the way she is tacked up right now. To place the saddle in your photos ... find the top of her shoulder blade and place your finger tips on the back side of it ... move your saddle so that the conchos are even with your finger tips and cinch her up. (the bars of the tree start right under the conchos) This will assure you of not restricting her shoulder blade movement and that the saddle is sitting in the 'sweet spot' right at the back side of her withers. Chasing dry spots is futile ... feel what you think is a dry spot for moisture and if hair is laying flat and not ruffed up and all you are seeing is a little more saddle pad wicking the moisture away .... a lot of times people forget their older saddle pads can become permanently compressed where the bars of the saddle are ... sometimes a good washing and rinsing will uncompact them or you need a new pad ... I would not be concerned unless the cantle of the saddle is raised up when cinching her up or flopping up and down when you are riding ... GOOD LUCK ...
What does it mean when the hair on the dry spot if ruffed up? I'm having that issue with one of my horses. 
IMO to me the saddle is not making constant pressure causing the hair to be ruffled. I have had this happen on a few horses who have very straight backs and Kelly kaminiski saddle and Lisa Lockhart saddle. I ordered a crown c with flat bars, my problem went away. New horse is having problems with the 10inch gullet regular bar, but the 11 inch flat bar doesn't cause the effect. I would say this is worse then dry patches

Ruffled hair is much worse than large dry areas.  It means the saddle is twisting (probably too narrow) and will sore your horse up.

I dont believe it did it to her when I first got her. I hope it isn't the saddle. I love my TC!
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wimpyb
Reg. Dec 2003
Posted 2014-02-26 8:04 PM
Subject: RE: Dry spots . . . a good thing??? Mind blown -- Pics added



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FlyingJT - 2014-02-26 5:58 PM

wimpyb - 2014-02-26 4:39 PM

FlyingJT - 2014-02-26 5:20 PM

Does the Gullet width in front effect how wide the bars are in the back?

Traditionally, the gullet is 1/2" wider in the back than the front. Now, that may not be true anymore. you should have about 4 fingers width on any gullet tho to bridge over the spine.

If your saddle is rocking forward do you need a smaller width or does the bar angles and channel play a bigger role?

Too much rock is from the shape of the bars and will cause a saddle to actually rock forward and back again. Think of it this way, a rocking chair on a flat surface will create movement. All saddles should restrict movement as much as possible. A saddle with more rock in the tree works well on a horse with a back that drops in the center - so the tree follows the shape of the horse. A horse with a straighter back, needs a straighter bar so as not to create a bridge in the center of the tree. IF you think about those things, a lot of the questions you guys have about saddles will be answered.
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missroselee
Reg. Jul 2006
Posted 2014-02-26 8:05 PM
Subject: RE: Dry spots . . . a good thing??? Mind blown -- Pics added


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wimpyb - 2014-02-26 9:04 PM
FlyingJT - 2014-02-26 5:58 PM
wimpyb - 2014-02-26 4:39 PM
FlyingJT - 2014-02-26 5:20 PM Does the Gullet width in front effect how wide the bars are in the back?
Traditionally, the gullet is 1/2" wider in the back than the front. Now, that may not be true anymore. you should have about 4 fingers width on any gullet tho to bridge over the spine.
If your saddle is rocking forward do you need a smaller width or does the bar angles and channel play a bigger role?
Too much rock is from the shape of the bars and will cause a saddle to actually rock forward and back again. Think of it this way, a rocking chair on a flat surface will create movement. All saddles should restrict movement as much as possible. A saddle with more rock in the tree works well on a horse with a back that drops in the center - so the tree follows the shape of the horse. A horse with a straighter back, needs a straighter bar so as not to create a bridge in the center of the tree. IF you think about those things, a lot of the questions you guys have about saddles will be answered.

 
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Southtxponygirl
Reg. Nov 2006
Posted 2014-02-26 8:15 PM
Subject: RE: Dry spots . . . a good thing??? Mind blown -- Pics added



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wimpyb - 2014-02-26 8:04 PM
FlyingJT - 2014-02-26 5:58 PM
wimpyb - 2014-02-26 4:39 PM
FlyingJT - 2014-02-26 5:20 PM Does the Gullet width in front effect how wide the bars are in the back?
Traditionally, the gullet is 1/2" wider in the back than the front. Now, that may not be true anymore. you should have about 4 fingers width on any gullet tho to bridge over the spine.
If your saddle is rocking forward do you need a smaller width or does the bar angles and channel play a bigger role?
Too much rock is from the shape of the bars and will cause a saddle to actually rock forward and back again. Think of it this way, a rocking chair on a flat surface will create movement. All saddles should restrict movement as much as possible. A saddle with more rock in the tree works well on a horse with a back that drops in the center - so the tree follows the shape of the horse. A horse with a straighter back, needs a straighter bar so as not to create a bridge in the center of the tree. IF you think about those things, a lot of the questions you guys have about saddles will be answered.

Good point Wimpyb  
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wimpyb
Reg. Dec 2003
Posted 2014-02-26 9:37 PM
Subject: RE: Dry spots . . . a good thing??? Mind blown -- Pics added



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