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cheryl makofka
Reg. Jan 2011
Posted 2014-02-25 8:30 PM
Subject: RE: weird horse thing going on with horse.....help


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My vet draws blood on everything, a simple CBC will tell a person lots.
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thirsty
Reg. May 2009
Posted 2014-02-26 12:31 AM
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I agree but she didnt seem like it would be of any benefit, I was willing she wasnt.
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sophiebelle
Reg. Jul 2008
Posted 2014-02-26 6:20 AM
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 I would look for another vet, but I also know because of where I live that can sometimes be difficult. 
I've only had one vet sorta refuse to do what I wanted, (further x-rays) I just told him I needed it for my peace of mind. He laughed and took the X-ray. He was right and I was wrong, but my 'what if' went away. Perhaps approach your vet like that. Explain that you are not questioning her knowledge, but you want to shut the what if door. 
Have you noticed any improvement in the short time you've been medicating her? still sending prayers...
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livinonlove&horses
Reg. Jun 2008
Posted 2014-02-26 7:53 AM
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 I'm going to ask a dumb question.  But since when is EPM a seasonal thing??  I would assume it would be more prevalent in the cold because that's when horses would more likely be eating contaminated hay??
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ndiehl
Reg. Feb 2011
Posted 2014-02-26 9:48 AM
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sophiebelle - 2014-02-26 6:20 AM

 I would look for another vet, but I also know because of where I live that can sometimes be difficult. 
I've only had one vet sorta refuse to do what I wanted, (further x-rays) I just told him I needed it for my peace of mind. He laughed and took the X-ray. He was right and I was wrong, but my 'what if' went away. Perhaps approach your vet like that. Explain that you are not questioning her knowledge, but you want to shut the what if door. 
Have you noticed any improvement in the short time you've been medicating her? still sending prayers...

I agree with this. I have been following this post and checking back for updates and can tell you I would be calling them again at the very least, if not finding a different vet. If I wanted to draw blood and check levels and everything out on MY horse you would be darn sure my vet would. Your noticing changes in your animal and lost one already; I don't know about others but I'm around mine every day and can sense when something's wrong changes in the way they act, plus you should know if it's something that could affect your other animals. YOUR paying for the test and it would help rule out any oddities that could be causing this. Plus being a senior horse I would do it to see if there is anything I need to change in her diet (it can serve 2 purposes). I agree that having 2 with the same "injury" is extremely unlikely and some of the symptoms you are describing can mean multiple things. Also the comment about just letting her die really rubbed me wrong, why let a horse suffer or be in pain (isn't she a vet and her goal is to be compassionate about animals at least). If you have the means financially to try and help who is she to say just let her die.
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speedjunkie
Reg. Dec 2011
Posted 2014-02-26 11:47 AM
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I too would find another vet.  Her attitude and knowledge - EPM is NOT a seasonal thing and Blood draw could tell you a bunch. 
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cheryl makofka
Reg. Jan 2011
Posted 2014-02-26 12:10 PM
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thirsty - 2014-02-26 12:31 AM

I agree but she didnt seem like it would be of any benefit, I was willing she wasnt.

If you are willing to believe the vet, then there are no suggestions anyone can give
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casualdust07
Reg. Mar 2005
Posted 2014-02-26 12:36 PM
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She sounds like she does not know where her feet are. Does she have a head tilt?


I dont understand why they wouldn't draw blood either. you never know. and if it gives the owner peace of mind, then do it.
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thirsty
Reg. May 2009
Posted 2014-02-26 12:58 PM
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No she doesnt tilt her head. when she walks she dont walk straight, walks like she is two tracking. frustrated
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FlyingJT
Reg. Jan 2014
Posted 2014-02-26 1:29 PM
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Have you taken a temp and checked her respiratory and heart rate? Did she have a runny nose or coughing the weeks up to this? Maybe she had a mild stroke? EHV-1 neurological disease? West Nile(unlikely for this time of year), Wobblers? Just throwing stuff out there, not to scare you but maybe you can ask your vet and mark of the most severe. I can't believe none will draw blood! I also wouldn't count out epm just because the time of year. It has been found in feed because the infected animal gets in the plant, or they can come across feces and accidentally ingest it.

Good Luck!!
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thirsty
Reg. May 2009
Posted 2014-02-26 2:42 PM
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Heart rate, temp, and respitory is good, no runny nose or coughing. She said not wobblers, my hay did come from along the river and an orchard, but she said nothing to do with feed, I thought maybe mosquitos could of gotten baled in hay and they ate them, but apparentely not. I just dont know,
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ACEINTHEHOLE
Reg. Apr 2005
Posted 2014-02-26 2:57 PM
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Your horse is neurological for some reason or anther.. you need a second opinion.  You need a good lameness/neuro vet to exam him. This is not normal and can kill him or at least leave him a pasture ornament if not treated soon!!!

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mhprimetime
Reg. Jan 2008
Posted 2014-02-26 7:23 PM
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Selenium salt block????   perhaps selenium toxicity. we are totally deficient in Selenium here in NE PA, but you still have to monitor how much you are giving them as a additive.
 
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shilohorse
Reg. May 2011
Posted 2014-02-26 9:20 PM
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epm can also be in their system for a while and not show up until their immune system gets a little down and then it really can attack- there are a lot of good epm treatments now that aren't near as expensive as they used to be- and a blood test can tell you if the titer is up elevated-
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shilohorse
Reg. May 2011
Posted 2014-02-26 9:22 PM
Subject: RE: weird horse thing going on with horse.....help


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also there is no guarantee that the feed stores can keep rodents out completely - so to say that epm couldn't come from feed is not something I would count on
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ajs2002
Reg. Apr 2006
Posted 2014-02-27 9:18 AM
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If you can't get her  to a better vet could you get a good video showing what she is doing and possibly send that to a reputable clinic to at least give you a direction to really push your local vet? 
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thirsty
Reg. May 2009
Posted 2014-03-10 11:34 AM
Subject: RE: weird horse thing going on with horse.....help UPDATE


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When we fed tho other night she was still having trouble with going straight, the next morning it was like someone turned a switch and she is totally better. She was bucking and rearing, twiriling around, bossing the other horses and chasing a 2 year old. So glad just hoping that it dont relapse. Still no answer or idea.
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