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| This gorgeous boy is at a rescue a few hours away from me. He was surrendered by his previous owners.
He is 3, coming 4 years old. 15.2hh and still growing. Broke on trails and arena.
He is currently a crypochiad (spelling?) stud, that will be gelded before sale.
These are the only pictures they have right now.. But I'm liking what I see. What do you guys think?
He's exactly the age and height I'm looking for.
Thanks!
http://i820.photobucket.com/albums/zz128/horseluver50/1800882_10202...
http://i820.photobucket.com/albums/zz128/horseluver50/1533651_10202...
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| Looks nice, I would be wondering why they didn't sell him privately, cryptorchid are quite expensive to geld.
The horse looks good, but I would get a very good lameness exam done, I would want to speak to the previous owners and ask why.
I would be worried he is a bronc.
Also most adoptive agencies will require the horse back if you want to sell the horse. I would ask about this as well, as if you train the horse for barrels then want to sell the horse, I don't think you can. |
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| cheryl makofka - 2014-03-14 12:42 PM
Looks nice, I would be wondering why they didn't sell him privately, cryptorchid are quite expensive to geld.
The horse looks good, but I would get a very good lameness exam done, I would want to speak to the previous owners and ask why.
I would be worried he is a bronc.
Also most adoptive agencies will require the horse back if you want to sell the horse. I would ask about this as well, as if you train the horse for barrels then want to sell the horse, I don't think you can.
His adoption fee is $1200 which will all go towards getting him gelded before taking him.
They said the old owners had too many horses and couldn't afford to keep him.
I would definitely be getting a vet check before buying If I like him.
They say he is broke to ride.. great out on trails alone or with horses, and in the arena. But best for a intermediate rider as he is sensitive and can act a bit "studdy"
Very good point! I will look into their policies. If he worked out for me I would keep him, but if for some reason down the road I wanted or had to sell him.. I would at least get something out of him. Hopefully it's not the case.
Thanks for your response! :) |
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| It looks like they do take them back if you want to sell in the future. I understand this to some extent as they always want to know where the horse is.. but say I put thousands of dollars into training and competing on a horse and wanted to sell to move up to another horse.. I would have to give back for no cost. Doesn't really seem fair.. |
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Location: Mountains of VA | Judging from the 2nd pic. This horse's topline tells me that he has been ridden hard and a lot. He's a crypt and will require a more intensive surgery procedure. As young as he is, he already requires a lot of riding because he is "sensitive".
I realize that you want to rehab, adopt, rescue, etc. I have no problem with people that want to do this, it is your money and you can spend it as you see fit. HOWEVER, if you are looking for a good performance, riding horse you might want to spend your money in a better way and buy a horse that is worth the money of pre-purchase exams, feed, transportation, training, etc.
Personally, I just do not like to gamble that much on to put my money and time into rescues. |
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Location: Oklahoma | hotpaints - 2014-03-15 7:43 PM
Judging from the 2nd pic. This horse's topline tells me that he has been ridden hard and a lot. He's a crypt and will require a more intensive surgery procedure. As young as he is, he already requires a lot of riding because he is "sensitive".
I realize that you want to rehab, adopt, rescue, etc. I have no problem with people that want to do this, it is your money and you can spend it as you see fit. HOWEVER, if you are looking for a good performance, riding horse you might want to spend your money in a better way and buy a horse that is worth the money of pre-purchase exams, feed, transportation, training, etc.
Personally, I just do not like to gamble that much on to put my money and time into rescues.
Just curious.. how do you determine that from the topline? Just would like to know for my own knowledge and future reference. |
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Location: home for the winter...what a dumb idea | I had a criptored(sp) horse.....he was every bit a stud. Took 2 year after he was gelded to not have to be on your toes all the time around him. Also it can be very painful for them. When I had mine gelded the vet said that is was swollen to the size of a soft ball and way up by his kiddenys..... |
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Location: somewhere between here and the next barrel race | Do it. Buy him. And, yes, keep in mind that even after he is gelded, he "may" still act like a stud for 2 years, but he is young. Always, after his castration (sugery for a cryptorchid), he must be cold-hosed and (exercised) round-penned DAILY for about 10 or more days. He just needs a new life, and a new job..  ... ( The GERL has helped GDA geld some stallions that were 15 - 20 years old. Yes, there is much more to recovery, physically AND mentally, when the stud is in his teens).
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Location: ND | He looks like a cute colt....but I would talk directly to the previous owners, go ride him and do a vet check. Even if he passed all that if there are strings attached (as in the rescue expects him back if at any point you want to sell him) there would be no way I'd even consider him. When I buy a horse he is MINE and I want to be able to make any decisions I want in regards to their care & future. |
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Location: WYOMING | Cute! |
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Location: Mountains of VA | Longneck - 2014-03-15 7:59 PM hotpaints - 2014-03-15 7:43 PM Judging from the 2nd pic. This horse's topline tells me that he has been ridden hard and a lot. He's a crypt and will require a more intensive surgery procedure. As young as he is, he already requires a lot of riding because he is "sensitive".
I realize that you want to rehab, adopt, rescue, etc. I have no problem with people that want to do this, it is your money and you can spend it as you see fit. HOWEVER, if you are looking for a good performance, riding horse you might want to spend your money in a better way and buy a horse that is worth the money of pre-purchase exams, feed, transportation, training, etc.
Personally, I just do not like to gamble that much on to put my money and time into rescues. Just curious.. how do you determine that from the topline? Just would like to know for my own knowledge and future reference.
Looking at the 2nd pic.........this horse is somewhat thin but not skinny by no means. However, he has no flesh/muscle on either side of his spine, along his withers and just behind his shoulders which is exactly where the saddle/saddle pad goes. He does have flesh over his croup and his tail head/dock does not stick up. Would be nice if the pic had been taken with his head up then it would be a little easier to see the atrophy on his back. The OP stated that the horse requires a lot of riding to get him to settle. |
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Location: Oklahoma | hotpaints - 2014-03-16 2:28 PM
Longneck - 2014-03-15 7:59 PM hotpaints - 2014-03-15 7:43 PM Judging from the 2nd pic. This horse's topline tells me that he has been ridden hard and a lot. He's a crypt and will require a more intensive surgery procedure. As young as he is, he already requires a lot of riding because he is "sensitive".
I realize that you want to rehab, adopt, rescue, etc. I have no problem with people that want to do this, it is your money and you can spend it as you see fit. HOWEVER, if you are looking for a good performance, riding horse you might want to spend your money in a better way and buy a horse that is worth the money of pre-purchase exams, feed, transportation, training, etc.
Personally, I just do not like to gamble that much on to put my money and time into rescues. Just curious.. how do you determine that from the topline? Just would like to know for my own knowledge and future reference. Would be nice if the pic had been taken with his head up then it would be a little easier to see the atrophy on his back. The OP stated that the horse requires a lot of riding to get him to settle.
Thanks! I'm terrible with conformation! |
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| Thank you everyone! About him acting like a stud agter gelding.. I have 2 mares who would be in the same pasture.. Not a good plan?
I didcontact her about the buy back policies.. And yes they do take them back if it doesn't work out in the future. I will have to think about if I'd be willing to do that. If I really liked him, I may even end up keeping him forever so it wouldn't be a big deal. |
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Location: Northeast Nebraska | I bought a mare in foal (didn't know she was) and she had a crypt colt. He was insane, I think from the pain. You could NEVER trust him, even years after. I finally sent him to the kill pen, he was that dangerous. I would run from this horse. |
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Location: ND | GoGaited - 2014-03-16 3:58 PM I bought a mare in foal (didn't know she was) and she had a crypt colt. He was insane, I think from the pain. You could NEVER trust him, even years after. I finally sent him to the kill pen, he was that dangerous. I would run from this horse.
I don't think that's a normal thing with them. I have a gelding who was a cryp, only difference between him & the other geldings on my place is he cost more to geld. He's a sweet, kind natured, easy going horse & rides great.
I'd still run from this one simply because the rescue wants him back if buyer decides not to keep him eventually.....imo that's a crappy deal. You might keep the horse 10 years, prove him to be a winner & something major happens in your life & horse needs to be sold. Instead of being paid well for the years of hard work you just have to give him back to the rescue so they can make money off him again........ |
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Location: sunny california | i would not take home a rescue if I couyldn't sell him at some time in the future. I wouldn't mind a time limit like a few months cant be sold.
I gave away a gelding but did not give them papers until they could show me he was broke. I didn't care that they made money. I just wanted him to have value to help ensure his future/life. |
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Location: NM | Talk to the rescue about all the training you would like to do with him. Maybe it could be arranged that you could sell him in the future, but I am sure the rescue would want to approve the new home. I just bought a teacup chihuahua from a rescue and they said that I could re-home if needed, but they would need to approve the home. I know this is not like a horse, but I have found some rescues very easy to work with. I rescued a horse years ago and i still have him and he has been a great horse to own. Good luck with your decision!!! |
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