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 No Name Nancy
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    Location: never in the right place | the is a beautiful saddle, one of nicest I have seen.
I have a Caldwell TG and it fits my high withered lean horse great. I now have a low withered wide backed horse and while it fits him better than anything else I have tried, it is digging in to his shoulders . I looked on the Caldwell site and there is no place I can find to describe each saddle type and what it might fit. I need something a little wider than the TG I guess but don't know what.
Edited by ctdrumrunr 2014-03-16 9:48 AM
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| ctdrumrunr - 2014-03-16 9:46 AM I have a Caldwell TG and it fits my high withered lean horse great. I now have a low withered wide backed horse and while it fits him better than anything else I have tried, it is digging in to his shoulders . I looked on the Caldwell site and there is no place I can find to describe each saddle type and what it might fit. I need something a little wider than the TG I guess but don't know what.
Call and talk to Charon. She is very helpful and told me she if I sent her pictures she could see could get a pretty good idea of what tree they would need. I live close to College Station so I was able to take my horses to get fitted. | |
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    Location: Midwest | ctdrumrunr - 2014-03-16 9:46 AM
the is a beautiful saddle, one of nicest I have seen.
I have a Caldwell TG and it fits my high withered lean horse great. I now have a low withered wide backed horse and while it fits him better than anything else I have tried, it is digging in to his shoulders . I looked on the Caldwell site and there is no place I can find to describe each saddle type and what it might fit. I need something a little wider than the TG I guess but don't know what.
BARREL RACER/CONTEST SADDLE TREES
“TG”, “PRO RACER”, “ROCKET”, “PRO MAX”,
“ULTRA ROCKET”, and “MAXED OUT”
There are now six trees for contest/event saddles for barrel racing and pole bending. I do not wish to confuse with a larger number, so I am going to divide these into 2 groups.
The main difference in basic body types is: (1) the Extreme Back…these started with Thoroughbreds, straight shouldered high withered, low backed. This is a back with a lot of contour so the trees have to have a lot of twist and a lot of flare to fit. (A) “TG Racer” is the narrowest, fitting young underdeveloped animals or the old Appendix type slender with sloping shoulders. (B) “Rocket” is a great saddle for the same contoured back but that is much wider with larger or bulging shoulder blades. (C) “Ultra Rocket” is our newest extreme type for the very largest, widest, most contoured; not a lot of these yet but we saw the need.
The other type of back started with the cow-bred horses; a flatter and lower withered horse. This level back needs a less twisted and wider sprung bar to sit as flat. The narrowest of these are the (D) “Pro Racer”. Good for a lot of young animals or ones hard to fatten. (E) “Pro Max”, our most popular wider, flatter tree, works for full bodied horses with large shoulders. (F) “Maxed Out”, the same tree but even wider. We cannot believe this tree and the Ultra Rocket have been necessary but the industry is breeding larger and wider horses every year.
The following gives to an idea of the percent of sales for these: 20% of the sales today are the TG and Pro Racer, which are our oldest trees and are around 7” in the gullet. There are a lot of trees and makers using this dimension, the difference with ours are the twist and flare that lay these trees in closer contact to the animals as all our saddles are required to do. 70% of all sales are the Pro Max and the Rocket that have a gullet width of 7 1/2”. As you can see, these are the most common, fitting the most horses that we see. The Maxed Out and the Ultra Rocket are only about 10% and have 8” gullets. I have spent dozens of hours on these designs because I believe they are a necessity and are going to become more so.
FROM: http://www.caldwellsaddle.com/index.html/frameset.htm
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     Location: Red Raiderland | melissa - 2014-03-15 2:27 PM did you see a big difference in the tree between the rocket and the promax? absolutely gorgeous!!!!
Sorry I'm just getting back to this thread. I haven't gotten to try this new saddle yet but I had a ProMax before and yes there is a huge difference in fit for both horse and rider between these two saddles. I feel like a Rocket fits alot more horses than a ProMax does. | |
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     Location: Red Raiderland | barrelracr131 - 2014-03-16 11:01 AM ctdrumrunr - 2014-03-16 9:46 AM the is a beautiful saddle, one of nicest I have seen.
I have a Caldwell TG and it fits my high withered lean horse great. I now have a low withered wide backed horse and while it fits him better than anything else I have tried, it is digging in to his shoulders . I looked on the Caldwell site and there is no place I can find to describe each saddle type and what it might fit. I need something a little wider than the TG I guess but don't know what. BARREL RACER/CONTEST SADDLE TREES “TG”, “PRO RACER”, “ROCKET”, “PRO MAX”, “ULTRA ROCKET”, and “MAXED OUT” There are now six trees for contest/event saddles for barrel racing and pole bending. I do not wish to confuse with a larger number, so I am going to divide these into 2 groups. The main difference in basic body types is: (1 ) the Extreme Back…these started with Thoroughbreds, straight shouldered high withered, low backed. This is a back with a lot of contour so the trees have to have a lot of twist and a lot of flare to fit. (A ) “TG Racer” is the narrowest, fitting young underdeveloped animals or the old Appendix type slender with sloping shoulders. (B ) “Rocket” is a great saddle for the same contoured back but that is much wider with larger or bulging shoulder blades. (C ) “Ultra Rocket” is our newest extreme type for the very largest, widest, most contoured; not a lot of these yet but we saw the need. The other type of back started with the cow-bred horses; a flatter and lower withered horse. This level back needs a less twisted and wider sprung bar to sit as flat. The narrowest of these are the (D ) “Pro Racer”. Good for a lot of young animals or ones hard to fatten. (E ) “Pro Max”, our most popular wider, flatter tree, works for full bodied horses with large shoulders. (F ) “Maxed Out”, the same tree but even wider. We cannot believe this tree and the Ultra Rocket have been necessary but the industry is breeding larger and wider horses every year. The following gives to an idea of the percent of sales for these: 20% of the sales today are the TG and Pro Racer, which are our oldest trees and are around 7” in the gullet. There are a lot of trees and makers using this dimension, the difference with ours are the twist and flare that lay these trees in closer contact to the animals as all our saddles are required to do. 70% of all sales are the Pro Max and the Rocket that have a gullet width of 7 1/2”. As you can see, these are the most common, fitting the most horses that we see. The Maxed Out and the Ultra Rocket are only about 10% and have 8” gullets. I have spent dozens of hours on these designs because I believe they are a necessity and are going to become more so. FROM: http://www.caldwellsaddle.com/index.html/frameset.htm
BR131, thanks for posting that. It's a bit difficult to find on the website but it is a great explanation of the different trees.
I gave Charon the ok to design something because I am terrible at it. I love how it turned out. She gave me some ideas and I went with most of what she described. I just hope it fits the mare that I got it for... | |
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 No Name Nancy
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    Location: never in the right place | barrelracr131 - 2014-03-16 12:01 PM
ctdrumrunr - 2014-03-16 9:46 AM
the is a beautiful saddle, one of nicest I have seen.
I have a Caldwell TG and it fits my high withered lean horse great. I now have a low withered wide backed horse and while it fits him better than anything else I have tried, it is digging in to his shoulders . I looked on the Caldwell site and there is no place I can find to describe each saddle type and what it might fit. I need something a little wider than the TG I guess but don't know what.
BARREL RACER/CONTEST SADDLE TREES
“TG”, “PRO RACER”, “ROCKET”, “PRO MAX”,
“ULTRA ROCKET”, and “MAXED OUT”
There are now six trees for contest/event saddles for barrel racing and pole bending. I do not wish to confuse with a larger number, so I am going to divide these into 2 groups.
The main difference in basic body types is: (1 ) the Extreme Back…these started with Thoroughbreds, straight shouldered high withered, low backed. This is a back with a lot of contour so the trees have to have a lot of twist and a lot of flare to fit. (A ) “TG Racer” is the narrowest, fitting young underdeveloped animals or the old Appendix type slender with sloping shoulders. (B ) “Rocket” is a great saddle for the same contoured back but that is much wider with larger or bulging shoulder blades. (C ) “Ultra Rocket” is our newest extreme type for the very largest, widest, most contoured; not a lot of these yet but we saw the need.
The other type of back started with the cow-bred horses; a flatter and lower withered horse. This level back needs a less twisted and wider sprung bar to sit as flat. The narrowest of these are the (D ) “Pro Racer”. Good for a lot of young animals or ones hard to fatten. (E ) “Pro Max”, our most popular wider, flatter tree, works for full bodied horses with large shoulders. (F ) “Maxed Out”, the same tree but even wider. We cannot believe this tree and the Ultra Rocket have been necessary but the industry is breeding larger and wider horses every year.
The following gives to an idea of the percent of sales for these: 20% of the sales today are the TG and Pro Racer, which are our oldest trees and are around 7” in the gullet. There are a lot of trees and makers using this dimension, the difference with ours are the twist and flare that lay these trees in closer contact to the animals as all our saddles are required to do. 70% of all sales are the Pro Max and the Rocket that have a gullet width of 7 1/2”. As you can see, these are the most common, fitting the most horses that we see. The Maxed Out and the Ultra Rocket are only about 10% and have 8” gullets. I have spent dozens of hours on these designs because I believe they are a necessity and are going to become more so.
FROM: http://www.caldwellsaddle.com/index.html/frameset.htm
thank you, Guess I didn't scroll down far enough
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| barrelracr131 - 2014-03-16 11:01 AM
ctdrumrunr - 2014-03-16 9:46 AM
the is a beautiful saddle, one of nicest I have seen.
I have a Caldwell TG and it fits my high withered lean horse great. I now have a low withered wide backed horse and while it fits him better than anything else I have tried, it is digging in to his shoulders . I looked on the Caldwell site and there is no place I can find to describe each saddle type and what it might fit. I need something a little wider than the TG I guess but don't know what.
BARREL RACER/CONTEST SADDLE TREES
“TG”, “PRO RACER”, “ROCKET”, “PRO MAX”,
“ULTRA ROCKET”, and “MAXED OUT”
There are now six trees for contest/event saddles for barrel racing and pole bending. I do not wish to confuse with a larger number, so I am going to divide these into 2 groups.
The main difference in basic body types is: (1 ) the Extreme Back…these started with Thoroughbreds, straight shouldered high withered, low backed. This is a back with a lot of contour so the trees have to have a lot of twist and a lot of flare to fit. (A ) “TG Racer” is the narrowest, fitting young underdeveloped animals or the old Appendix type slender with sloping shoulders. (B ) “Rocket” is a great saddle for the same contoured back but that is much wider with larger or bulging shoulder blades. (C ) “Ultra Rocket” is our newest extreme type for the very largest, widest, most contoured; not a lot of these yet but we saw the need.
The other type of back started with the cow-bred horses; a flatter and lower withered horse. This level back needs a less twisted and wider sprung bar to sit as flat. The narrowest of these are the (D ) “Pro Racer”. Good for a lot of young animals or ones hard to fatten. (E ) “Pro Max”, our most popular wider, flatter tree, works for full bodied horses with large shoulders. (F ) “Maxed Out”, the same tree but even wider. We cannot believe this tree and the Ultra Rocket have been necessary but the industry is breeding larger and wider horses every year.
The following gives to an idea of the percent of sales for these: 20% of the sales today are the TG and Pro Racer, which are our oldest trees and are around 7” in the gullet. There are a lot of trees and makers using this dimension, the difference with ours are the twist and flare that lay these trees in closer contact to the animals as all our saddles are required to do. 70% of all sales are the Pro Max and the Rocket that have a gullet width of 7 1/2”. As you can see, these are the most common, fitting the most horses that we see. The Maxed Out and the Ultra Rocket are only about 10% and have 8” gullets. I have spent dozens of hours on these designs because I believe they are a necessity and are going to become more so.
FROM: http://www.caldwellsaddle.com/index.html/frameset.htm
Thanks for posting, interesting to see how my horses compare, My two big geldings fit the Ultra Rocket. | |
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