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| I run the mare in an o-ring. She is not finished. I want something that gets her nose also so maybe a combo. She in generally "light mouthed" and VERY VERY broke. Like ride walk trot without a bridle broke. Tried several hacks and didn't like how she rode in them. She rides "good" in everything she just didn't seem to "like" any of them. I'm thinking maybe a Johnson hack. Something short shanked with a nose? What about a draw gag?
I feel like when we run I'm pulling really hard. She gets really low with her whole body. Not just her butt. I want something that might help lift her front so she can come back to me easier. |
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The Advice Guru
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| It sounds like she is not ready to go fast. It also sounds like she is not shortening her stride for the turn and burying her front end in the turn to slow down.
You should not be pulling hard on your horses mouth for them to finish a turn.
If you want a combo, I like the oring combo.
A draw gag you need to be able to have a light feel, as once you start pulling there is no end.
A shank bit will give you more shoulder control
A gag bit will give you more bend
A hack will stiffen a horse up
This is what I have found anyway. |
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| Thank you for your suggestions. She is not hurrying her front end. She is just not a complete butt dragger. I have been battling with if she's ready for the speed for a while. We have been going slow for almost a year now. She's getting so bored going slow that she got to where she was half a**ing it. I thought with my situation a draw wouldn't be the answer. I'm afraid an O- ring combo would be too much but maybe not. I just thought maybe not all horses were made to run in an o ring. |
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The Advice Guru
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| I'm saying she may be slowing her front end down in the turn instead of at the rate point.
It doesn't matter if you have been going slow for 2 years, if they don't have the foundation on how to approach a barrel, how to rate properly, this means shortening the stride, and shape, and to finish the barrel, they shouldn't be going fast. It also shouldn't take a year of going slow for the horse to catch on.
Also if you are dragging your horse around in the turn probably a step has been missed. As if the foundation is not there the problem will get worse the more speed is added, then the person starts bitting up, then eventually you run out of a severe enough bit to fix the problem.
Not all horses like o ring snaffles.
My favorite bits are as follows
A sweet six gives that bit of gag, curb, and poll pressure but is still a subtle change it is not overpowering.
Ed Wright shanked bit, short cheek
Sheri Cervi diamond lifter short shank
Dave Elliott dee Butterfield bit works like a o ring combo
S shank hack
Edited by cheryl makofka 2014-03-22 9:33 PM
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Location: Texas | I don't keep mine in an O-ring very long, certainly not going faster than a trot. They begin to push into the bit and don't respond as well. That might be what you are feeling.
I like to move on to a Loomis draw, or a junior cowhorse, or Rosie gag with chain - depending on the horse. |
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| That really does sound like that's it. Not that she's getting to be a runaway or rude just lazy like at a faster pace she's not coming back to me as well with it. Thank you. I was thinking a jr cowhorse |
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