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Location: DUMPING CATS AND PIGS IN TEXAS :) | Part of loving my horses and enjoying the sport of racing, makes me hunt out the reputable trainer's and play an active role in their racing careers. I am an owner that follows them, attends every race, shows up out of the blue to see them at the track. I discuss what races they will enter, what medication's we will give (lasix), how often they will race, etc. If I saw or suspected anything was off, they would be back home with me in a heatbeat. And, I am not the only one that is like this. There are bad situations, that is true, but the vast majority of horses are taken excellent care of. My horses come first period. In fact, even the ones I have sold are routinely stalked by me just to make sure they are doing ok too.
Peta routinely makes videos to fit their needs. The are not credible to me because they have an agenda and try to sway people by reporting only a fraction of the story. I can name several horse trainer's that do the right thing by the horses.
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Location: Broxton, Ga | dhdqhllc - 2014-03-21 11:36 AM i don't like a lot of things about PEA but the info is accurate in the article and thus why i'm not a big fan of racing.....but it's not just racing that has a huge problem.......all of the juvenile big money disciplines are a problem for me.....
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| Its interesting reading every ones opinions about how bad Horse racing is for the horses but Before any one starts bashing horse racing for what they do, it might be a idea and have a look in your own back yard. There are a few people have posted on here about what a trainer has done to there horse. I can tell you there are a lot of TRUE stories around of what some barrel racers to just to make a run. Who can say they have not been in a warm up pen and seen some one riding a lame horse? Have you looked around in the stall area during a big show and seen all the syrgies laying around. There is good and bad in Every sport, and its well know how videos can be edit to show what every is wanted seen. So before we start throwing stones maybe we better look around our own house first. PETA might be watching you next. |
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| Troy Brandenburg - 2014-03-24 10:19 AM Its interesting reading every ones opinions about how bad Horse racing is for the horses but Before any one starts bashing horse racing for what they do, it might be a idea and have a look in your own back yard. There are a few people have posted on here about what a trainer has done to there horse. I can tell you there are a lot of TRUE stories around of what some barrel racers to just to make a run. Who can say they have not been in a warm up pen and seen some one riding a lame horse? Have you looked around in the stall area during a big show and seen all the syrgies laying around. There is good and bad in Every sport, and its well know how videos can be edit to show what every is wanted seen. So before we start throwing stones maybe we better look around our own house first. PETA might be watching you next.
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| Troy Brandenburg - 2014-03-24 12:19 PM Its interesting reading every ones opinions about how bad Horse racing is for the horses but Before any one starts bashing horse racing for what they do, it might be a idea and have a look in your own back yard. There are a few people have posted on here about what a trainer has done to there horse. I can tell you there are a lot of TRUE stories around of what some barrel racers to just to make a run. Who can say they have not been in a warm up pen and seen some one riding a lame horse? Have you looked around in the stall area during a big show and seen all the syrgies laying around. There is good and bad in Every sport, and its well know how videos can be edit to show what every is wanted seen. So before we start throwing stones maybe we better look around our own house first. PETA might be watching you next. I don't disagree at all but I also don't think you turn and look the other way when abuse happens because of what might happen next or who they might next go after. That reasoning is how abuse is perpetuated and not stopped in all of the disciplines.
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| CJE - 2014-03-24 10:51 AM dhdqhllc - 2014-03-21 11:36 AM i don't like a lot of things about PEA but the info is accurate in the article and thus why i'm not a big fan of racing.....but it's not just racing that has a huge problem.......all of the juvenile big money disciplines are a problem for me..... Agree.........!!!
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| But how do we know its accurate? you have a Lawyer who worked for PETA and said they did not always tell the truth. There is also a vet that looked at the video and said the hoof problems on the video did not make sense. Every one has the right to think what they like, but that does not always mean they are right. I am not saying this did not happened but i also know things can be Just as bad in barrel racing |
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| Troy Brandenburg - 2014-03-24 1:15 PM But how do we know its accurate? you have a Lawyer who worked for PETA and said they did not always tell the truth. There is also a vet that looked at the video and said the hoof problems on the video did not make sense. Every one has the right to think what they like, but that does not always mean they are right. I am not saying this did not happened but i also know things can be Just as bad in barrel racing You may be right, I was referring to in general that is the arguement I most often hear, better not speak up or they will come after your sport next and I totally disagree with letting abuse happen in any dsicipline because of "they might come after you next, especially in my
sport of barrel racing. We need to speak up and police ourselves so others do not have to do it. In our area there is a barrel racer banned from almost all the local organizations becuase of how he treats his horse.
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Location: California | My husband has known Steve since he was a kid. He is a great horsemen. Scott is Scott. He is crude but he is another horsemen. I KNOW the whole story. This video is pure BS as is most PETA videos. Remember what they did to rodeo. Before you point fingers at the horse racing industry, clean up your own backyard first. I had to go over and pick up the little skinny syringes w/needles that a beloved WPRA World Champion so nicely threw on the ground after slack at the entrance of the rodeo grounds where she was parked. I've seen the controlled runaways at barrel futurities so hopped up that they looked like their heads were going to explode and, again, went over to where another beloved futurity trainer was parked and guess what I found. Why are there syringe disposal boxes at the NFR in the back? Like I said, I KNOW more about these guys and take offense to people condeming them based upon an 8 minute PETA video taken by someone who prostituted herself to get "the story". |
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Location: In Ky following Barrel Races & Walker hounds. | NonaY - 2014-03-24 1:44 PM
My husband has known Steve since he was a kid. Â He is a great horsemen. Â Scott is Scott. Â He is crude but he is another horsemen. Â I KNOW the whole story. Â This video is pure BS as is most PETA videos. Â Remember what they did to rodeo. Â Before you point fingers at the horse racing industry, clean up your own backyard first. Â I had to go over and pick up the little skinny syringes w/needles that a beloved WPRA World Champion so nicely threw on the ground after slack at the entrance of the rodeo grounds where she was parked. Â I've seen the controlled runaways at barrel futurities so hopped up that they looked like their heads were going to explode and, again, went over to where another beloved futurity trainer was parked and guess what I found. Â Why are there syringe disposal boxes at the NFR in the back? Â Like I said, I KNOW more about these guys and take offense to people condeming them based upon an 8 minute PETA video taken by someone who prostituted herself to get "the story".
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Location: ND | NonaY - 2014-03-24 1:44 PM My husband has known Steve since he was a kid. He is a great horsemen. Scott is Scott. He is crude but he is another horsemen. I KNOW the whole story. This video is pure BS as is most PETA videos. Remember what they did to rodeo. Before you point fingers at the horse racing industry, clean up your own backyard first. I had to go over and pick up the little skinny syringes w/needles that a beloved WPRA World Champion so nicely threw on the ground after slack at the entrance of the rodeo grounds where she was parked. I've seen the controlled runaways at barrel futurities so hopped up that they looked like their heads were going to explode and, again, went over to where another beloved futurity trainer was parked and guess what I found. Why are there syringe disposal boxes at the NFR in the back? Like I said, I KNOW more about these guys and take offense to people condeming them based upon an 8 minute PETA video taken by someone who prostituted herself to get "the story".
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Location: Great NW | PETA makes up their information to fit their need. by no means are they an ethical operation. |
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| I have watched the entire video and IMO it doesn't prove crap! If I recall correctly it states that 24 horses die each day at the race track. I find that very hard to believe. They showed brief clips of horses getting routine maintenance for the most part. The Blasi guy obviously runs his head to try to impress someone that doesn't have a clue. Every time he opened his mouth, the ignorance just flowed out. A person like that has no credibility with me. Now if they had shown a longer video showing a lame horse failing a lameness exam, getting drugged and running and prove it all happened same day or so, I would be furious. There are bad apples in every sport but I have watched the track vets observe horses at the track just before their race and pull them out of the race.
I too have seen some NFR barrel racers using lots of needles and a well known futurity rider/horse broker give every horse he ran at a big race an injection BEFORE they ran and another one AFTER they ran as soon as he returned to the stalls. I was stalled by him and was in disbelief at how much stuff his clients horses were getting. A third party told me he uses something to "jack them up" but has to give something to offset it after so their heartrate will go back down.....potential for heart attack. I would not buy a stick horse from this guy after seeing how he operates.
I hope someone has made sure Steve A has seen the video since it damages his reputation. I hope he goes after the people that produced it for personal injury and I hope he fires Blasi if he hasn't already and nobody else hires him. |
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Location: LA Lower Alabama | Â I will slightly take peta seriously once they begin using the funds they raise for true good. Like rescuing starved animals. Not letting show dogs go from cages at an event where they use more hair products on them than I ever will and feed them the best nutrition money can buy. |
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Location: Florida.. | rodeomom3 - 2014-03-24 2:07 PM Troy Brandenburg - 2014-03-24 12:19 PM Its interesting reading every ones opinions about how bad Horse racing is for the horses but Before any one starts bashing horse racing for what they do, it might be a idea and have a look in your own back yard. There are a few people have posted on here about what a trainer has done to there horse. I can tell you there are a lot of TRUE stories around of what some barrel racers to just to make a run. Who can say they have not been in a warm up pen and seen some one riding a lame horse? Have you looked around in the stall area during a big show and seen all the syrgies laying around. There is good and bad in Every sport, and its well know how videos can be edit to show what every is wanted seen. So before we start throwing stones maybe we better look around our own house first. PETA might be watching you next. I don't disagree at all but I also don't think you turn and look the other way when abuse happens because of what might happen next or who they might next go after. That reasoning is how abuse is perpetuated and not stopped in all of the disciplines.
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