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Location: South Dakota | WrapSnap - 2014-03-20 10:32 PM I am a firm believer that if we spend forever trying to perfect the pattern at a slow lope, they begin to believe that they CAN'T run a pattern. Slow work is great, but we must be careful how slow and for how long.
I agree and I think it can happen to the rider too. I rode my horse slow and easy always wanting the perfect turns. Even when we increased our speed and I thought, wow, we are really moving, we weren't, according to the clock anyway. I decided he just didn't have the speed and let my daughter start running him. He started running faster with her and now with me too. |
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Location: Great NW | WrapSnap - 2014-03-20 8:32 PM I am a firm believer that if we spend forever trying to perfect the pattern at a slow lope, they begin to believe that they CAN'T run a pattern. Slow work is great, but we must be careful how slow and for how long.
 Agree... Many times it is a simple case they just do not understand that they can go fast. Please be sure to check the pasture out for holes or dibbits before you go breeze them. :) |
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Location: Kansas | Whiteboy - 2014-03-19 3:37 PM True Story: One day a bunch of us ropers were at the arena working on some young horses. This old guy comes every now and then to give us some pointers, lol. That days lesson was on horses that didn't know how to run. His advise: Rope a deer. Why you might ask: When you rope a deer, once the deer hits the end of the rope, it will come straight back up the rope. He claimed the laziest and slowest of horses could win the all american with a deer tied to the saddle horn. So... of corse we had to try this, I was there as a spectator only. Just as promised, lazy horses are only lazy when they lack motivation. Turns out that type of motivation will ruin a rope horse for life.
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I agree with Andy....
Some horses we need to encourage more then really try to make do something, I dont see it posted how old the OP's horse is? With young horses it also makes a difference with our ability to judge how much we help or not when increasing speed, as that can affect their confidence... |
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Location: Arizona | WrapSnap - 2014-03-20 9:32 PM
I am a firm believer that if we spend forever trying to perfect the pattern at a slow lope, they begin to believe that they CAN'T run a pattern. Slow work is great, but we must be careful how slow and for how long.
Good point. I believe this is the problem I'm having with my new mare. I think I've been training her slow for so long now that she has no idea that she "needs" to go fast. Good grief!! LOL |
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| Here is the video. Took forever to set this thing up!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?edit=vd&v=eOKZyCvvue0 |
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Location: MD | LIVE2RUN - 2014-03-21 12:28 PM
WrapSnap - 2014-03-20 9:32 PM
I am a firm believer that if we spend forever trying to perfect the pattern at a slow lope, they begin to believe that they CAN'T run a pattern. Slow work is great, but we must be careful how slow and for how long.
Good point. I believe this is the problem I'm having with my new mare. I think I've been training her slow for so long now that she has no idea that she "needs" to go fast. Good grief!! LOL
happened with my paint, if I even thought about slow loping him on a pattern I wouldn't ever get him to run it. It was either trot it, or haul butt. |
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Location: Texas | He looks a little sore in that hind end. He didnt really want to stretch out and kinda stayed under himself when running and hopped around the barrels in the back end and it sounded like he was grunting but only did it when you'd come out. Pushing on those back legs.
Around your barrels he isnt driving that hip under neath himself either, he is pulling with his front end.
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Location: MD | After watching the video...My first question would be... How long has it been since this horse was run on a larger set, outside? |
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| The last big pattern I ran was in Aug/Sept. I don't have a place to run him. I think I need to find one. Maybe a slight incline to get him to push himself, not pull. I have had extensive X-rays, vet work done and his joints are great. He never ever declines to work so I am very careful of him. He would run for me on three legs so I think I worry to much about him being sore (though he's not) and don't really ask. |
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| htaucher1 - 2014-03-28 10:18 AM
The last big pattern I ran was in Aug/Sept. I don't have a place to run him. I think I need to find one. Maybe a slight incline to get him to push himself, not pull. I have had extensive X-rays, vet work done and his joints are great. He never ever declines to work so I am very careful of him. He would run for me on three legs so I think I worry to much about him being sore (though he's not) and don't really ask.
Doesnt look like your are asking for speed. From the first to second barrel I think I see you kick 2-3 times. The horse seems like he needs that push constantly. Try kicking or pushing him up to every barrel. I would try that a few times. Also over exaggerate your body cues. When running home.... Put your hand up as far as you can go on his neck and lean your body forward. |
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Location: So. Cali. | Ever get the bloodwork done?
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| Getting the bloodwork done shortly. Doing it as soon as I can get my vet out to do teeth, too. Thinking he may need some energy. He is the sweetest easiest horse I have ever owned so I really appreciate all the input. He will go to my daughter when she is ready to step up to a horse because I would trust him with anyone! |
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| WrapSnap - 2014-03-27 11:34 PM After watching the video...My first question would be... How long has it been since this horse was run on a larger set, outside?
Ditto to this! I was gong to post a video of my lazy loper Zan, but the video I have available is at Herndon, which is a larger pattern for indoors patterns, and Zan is moving out between the barrels there because there is room, so it's not a fair comparison.
Get your horse to a larger pattern and work on striding out between the barrels. That pattern is so small that a larger strided horse doesn't have room for more than one full stride between that isn't taking off or rating down! |
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