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| For a 4yo gelding with decent papers (believe mostly cow bred), not broke, so would need to be sent off in our case to be broke to ride, I'm guessing this to be at least around $500/month and we don't know how long it will take him. We would do the pattering ourselves. He has 'ok' ground manners, but his current owners have let him get away with too much over time. He had an umbilical cord hernia and needed surgery when younger and was not able to be handled and worked with as he should have been (so we were told). He did however used to rear horribly whenever he didn't want to do something, he was let to get away with this for a long time. We took him for a few weeks and by the second day or so he was not doing it anymore and by the end of the few weeks was loading in the trailer perfectly (before it was a hassle and would rear straight up). So I do believe he has the potential to make a nice horse if worked with properly. His looks and build are also a plus. Papers honestly don’t mean squat to me, I’m a ‘you can’t ride papers’ kind of person and since he is gelded it even more pushes me not to care. The seller keeps saying ‘his papers, his papers’ and I’m not sure how to break that to them. I know they want us to have him over anyone, they have already made that clear. They were happy with the results they got when we had him for a few weeks working with him for them, so they believe he would fit best with us but has told us to make a ‘reasonable offer’…and at this point, that’s where I’m stuck. I should also note that they approached us on offering him for sale.
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| He is worth whatever you are willing to pay for him.
I would have to agree with Whiteboy on a horse like that however. An unruly 4 year old gelding isn't worth much in today's market. IF he had REALLY good papers I might be willing to pay a little extra only because your resale would be a little better than a horse with OK papers. |
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Location: Texas | If hes really flashy and pretty $350. If hes a plain sorrel $200 |
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| cyount2009 - 2014-04-09 3:09 PM
He is worth whatever you are willing to pay for him.
I would have to agree with Whiteboy on a horse like that however. An unruly 4 year old gelding isn't worth much in today's market. IF he had REALLY good papers I might be willing to pay a little extra only because your resale would be a little better than a horse with OK papers.
I would have to agree with you that he is not worth a whole lot in todays market, I'm just not sure how to get that across to the seller lol |
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| Rustynailfl - 2014-04-09 2:11 PM
cyount2009 - 2014-04-09 3:09 PM
He is worth whatever you are willing to pay for him.
I would have to agree with Whiteboy on a horse like that however. An unruly 4 year old gelding isn't worth much in today's market. IF he had REALLY good papers I might be willing to pay a little extra only because your resale would be a little better than a horse with OK papers.
I would have to agree with you that he is not worth a whole lot in todays market, I'm just not sure how to get that across to the seller lol
Blah! That's the worst part about buying those kinds of horses especially from friends or acquaintances! You don't want to pay any extra but you don't want to offend them either! If I were you I would tell them you aren't comfortable making an offer and ask that they through out a starting point. It sounds like they think the papers are pretty special and an offer of $200 may feel like low balling. If you are friends with them you may want to stay out of it completely unless you feel the colt has a lot of untapped potential. If you do and your heart is set on keeping him, you might have to pay a little more.
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| Horses are usually worth more to the seller than the buyer. A few weeks on the market should bring them back to reality.
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| cyount2009 - 2014-04-09 3:20 PM
Rustynailfl - 2014-04-09 2:11 PM
cyount2009 - 2014-04-09 3:09 PM
He is worth whatever you are willing to pay for him.
I would have to agree with Whiteboy on a horse like that however. An unruly 4 year old gelding isn't worth much in today's market. IF he had REALLY good papers I might be willing to pay a little extra only because your resale would be a little better than a horse with OK papers.
I would have to agree with you that he is not worth a whole lot in todays market, I'm just not sure how to get that across to the seller lol
Blah! That's the worst part about buying those kinds of horses especially from friends or acquaintances! You don't want to pay any extra but you don't want to offend them either! If I were you I would tell them you aren't comfortable making an offer and ask that they through out a starting point. It sounds like they think the papers are pretty special and an offer of $200 may feel like low balling. If you are friends with them you may want to stay out of it completely unless you feel the colt has a lot of untapped potential. If you do and your heart is set on keeping him, you might have to pay a little more.
Exactly my thoughts!
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A lot of people think he's thoroughbred but he's quarter.
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| Okay maybe $500 lol, he does look good. |
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Location: Southeast Louisiana | At first I was thinking "free to a good home" lol. But, it really depends on what the horse market is where you live. In southeast louisiana, you'd be lucky to get your money back IF he turns out to be really nice. The papers will matter to a buyer, if you decide to sell him. But, you are the one taking all the chances and he might or might not work past all of his issues from being spoiled.
I'd look at a nice, well bred horse, but I would prefer a plain looking one that is well behaved over the nice looking, well bred one. And, of course, if he turns out to be 1D, I'd put up with a lot more. But, you can never tell if that's going to be the case or not.
I'm no good at haggling. I'd tell them they need to decide what the least is they'd take for him and decide if it's worth it to you. |
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| Nita - 2014-04-09 3:52 PM
At first I was thinking "free to a good home" lol. But, it really depends on what the horse market is where you live. In southeast louisiana, you'd be lucky to get your money back IF he turns out to be really nice. The papers will matter to a buyer, if you decide to sell him. But, you are the one taking all the chances and he might or might not work past all of his issues from being spoiled.
I'd look at a nice, well bred horse, but I would prefer a plain looking one that is well behaved over the nice looking, well bred one. And, of course, if he turns out to be 1D, I'd put up with a lot more. But, you can never tell if that's going to be the case or not.
I'm no good at haggling. I'd tell them they need to decide what the least is they'd take for him and decide if it's worth it to you.
Thanks! Thinking that's what we’re going to do and that will be our decide factor. I'm not any good at haggling either and since I don't have the extra cash just flowing around to buy a pretty yard ornament, I'm not willing to pay the extra just because I want him. I know that there is always a risk when buying any horse but he is a big one. |
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Location: Oklahoma | I would probably pay somewhere between $500-$750 for him. Say it takes two - three months for him to come back broke to you then you would have a maximum of $2250 in him. In my (completely unprofessional) opinion that's what a broke, well built, registered horse with a lot of life left in him would be around. (as opposed to trying to get $2,500 for a 16 year old horse that is too old to really start a performance career)
Maybe you could say a little more about his papers (if you know what's on them) and maybe some BBs could tell you their experiences with those lines and their barrel ability. I just had a cow bred horse slip thru my hands because I was skeptical of not seeing any familiar names on his papers, but he could really turn and I regret not calling about him sooner!
I also would probably like that he hasn't been rode hard as a youngster and he's had time to properly develop (granted that they people have fed him properly and took care of him). I'd rather send one off to be broke as a 4 year old than but a 4 year old that had to work too hard as a two year old. |
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Location: Beggs, OK | Have you looked into the cost of hernia surgery in your area? The purchase price will be the cheapest part of this horse. You can get a sound unpapered gelding that is already started under saddle that doesn't need surgery or have mental issues for way less than you will have invested in this one by the time you can even use him. |
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| Hes pretty.. but honestly not worth a whole lot... :( IF hes something you WANT to spend money on AND send out to be broke.. id say MAYBE 600$... that being said I got a Super well broke flashy colored horse for $1200 only 6 years old.. |
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Location: ohio-in my own little world with pretty ponies :) | Soo if I'm reading this correctly. The only thing is he isn't broke? Honestly I would go for it! He's a pretty fella and I like to start them later rather than earlier. I feel like they are more willing and understand better. I'm thinking maybe $500-$750 range if you feel confident in him. |
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| rachellyn80 - 2014-04-09 3:40 PM
Have you looked into the cost of hernia surgery in your area? The purchase price will be the cheapest part of this horse. You can get a sound unpapered gelding that is already started under saddle that doesn't need surgery or have mental issues for way less than you will have invested in this one by the time you can even use him.
I think it was already done. I think she was saying, that was the reason he didn't get handled much when he was younger. I could be wrong though |
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | I would be thinking around 250.00, I would be getting that hernia fixed and thats going to cost more then what hes worth now. And then you're going to be sending him off to get broke, another 650.00 a month.
I would pass on him, there is to many out there that is broke and ready to go at his age, he is a nice looking guy tho. |
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