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Bandit94
Reg. Jan 2007
Posted 2014-04-12 12:10 PM
Subject: Another breeding opinion post...Please help...:O)



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So, I have decided on the stallion to breed my mare to. I am second guessing myself. I am worried that there is to much Dash for cash in the lineage. I am hoping that those who know far more then me could give me their opinion. His dam is a full sibling to Dinero and Bozo. Thank you.
The mare; http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/that+lady+dash
The stallion; http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/royal+quick+frenchman


 
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OregonBR
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Posted 2014-04-12 12:23 PM
Subject: RE: Another breeding opinion post...Please help...:O)


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No I don't think there's too much. Now if you were to breed to a stallion with 2, 3 or more crosses I think that would be too much. I think DFC is one of the safer horses to linebreed to.  Some horses I would not want multiple crosses in the pedigree.  

What you are proposing is an outcross to a horse who has little breeding in common with the mare. That gives hybrid vigor and should be a nice performer. Possibly a good producer as well.  I just had a filly born with this pedigree.  She's pretty nice.   
http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/hab+jj
 
I also bred this mare and she is doing really well in pro rodeos on the west coast and mountain states.  She made the short go of Pendleton.  I don't know why those aren't live links.   
 
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Bandit94
Reg. Jan 2007
Posted 2014-04-12 12:37 PM
Subject: RE: Another breeding opinion post...Please help...:O)



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OregonBR - 2014-04-12 10:23 AM No I don't think there's too much. Now if you were to breed to a stallion with 2, 3 or more crosses I think that would be too much. I think DFC is one of the safer horses to linebreed to.  Some horses I would not want multiple crosses in the pedigree.  



What you are proposing is an outcross to a horse who has little breeding in common with the mare. That gives hybrid vigor and should be a nice performer. Possibly a good producer as well.  I just had a filly born with this pedigree.  She's pretty nice.   
http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/hab+jj

 

I also bred this mare and she is doing really well in pro rodeos on the west coast and mountain states.  She made the short go of Pendleton.  I don't know why those aren't live links.   
 

http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/miss+judge+n+me 

 

Thank you Oregon, I havent bred a horse in 20 years (I still a have him..:O) I am so nervous about making the wrong decision. I really respect your opinion. Those babies look really nice. If she has a colt I will sell him, if it is a filly I will more then likely keep her.
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OregonBR
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Posted 2014-04-12 12:48 PM
Subject: RE: Another breeding opinion post...Please help...:O)


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Bandit94 - 2014-04-12 10:37 AM
OregonBR - 2014-04-12 10:23 AM No I don't think there's too much. Now if you were to breed to a stallion with 2, 3 or more crosses I think that would be too much. I think DFC is one of the safer horses to linebreed to.  Some horses I would not want multiple crosses in the pedigree.  



What you are proposing is an outcross to a horse who has little breeding in common with the mare. That gives hybrid vigor and should be a nice performer. Possibly a good producer as well.  I just had a filly born with this pedigree.  She's pretty nice.   
http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/hab+jj

 

I also bred this mare and she is doing really well in pro rodeos on the west coast and mountain states.  She made the short go of Pendleton.  I don't know why those aren't live links.   
 

http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/miss+judge+n+me 

 
Thank you Oregon, I havent bred a horse in 20 years (I still a have him..:O) I am so nervous about making the wrong decision. I really respect your opinion. Those babies look really nice. If she has a colt I will sell him, if it is a filly I will more then likely keep her.

Thank you.  I try to come at the job of breeding horses with reason. Haha  

Another thought.  Those crosses to DFC are quite a ways back which allows a lot of other individuals and their genetics come into play.  I'm not a person that breeds horses to maximize percentage of a certain horse in the pedigree.  I just don't think that's the prudent way to breed horses that will have to do a job. Conformation & disposition are the determining factor in the success of any performance horse. They have to have the right disposition, conformation and aptitudes to be successful. Pedigree helps you get that, if you study the lines and what they are known to be good at.  Then I LOOK at the horses and what their assets and flaws are.   You have to be realistic about what might happen with a cross and if it doesn't work, don't breeding those horses to each other again.  
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Bandit94
Reg. Jan 2007
Posted 2014-04-12 12:57 PM
Subject: RE: Another breeding opinion post...Please help...:O)



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OregonBR - 2014-04-12 10:48 AM
Bandit94 - 2014-04-12 10:37 AM
OregonBR - 2014-04-12 10:23 AM No I don't think there's too much. Now if you were to breed to a stallion with 2, 3 or more crosses I think that would be too much. I think DFC is one of the safer horses to linebreed to.  Some horses I would not want multiple crosses in the pedigree.  



What you are proposing is an outcross to a horse who has little breeding in common with the mare. That gives hybrid vigor and should be a nice performer. Possibly a good producer as well.  I just had a filly born with this pedigree.  She's pretty nice.   
http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/hab+jj

 

I also bred this mare and she is doing really well in pro rodeos on the west coast and mountain states.  She made the short go of Pendleton.  I don't know why those aren't live links.   
 

http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/miss+judge+n+me 

 
Thank you Oregon, I havent bred a horse in 20 years (I still a have him..:O) I am so nervous about making the wrong decision. I really respect your opinion. Those babies look really nice. If she has a colt I will sell him, if it is a filly I will more then likely keep her.
Thank you.  I try to come at the job of breeding horses with reason. Haha  



Another thought.  Those crosses to DFC are quite a ways back which allows a lot of other individuals and their genetics come into play.  I'm not a person that breeds horses to maximize percentage of a certain horse in the pedigree.  I just don't think that's the prudent way to breed horses that will have to do a job. Conformation & disposition are the determining factor in the success of any performance horse. They have to have the right disposition, conformation and aptitudes to be successful. Pedigree helps you get that, if you study the lines and what they are known to be good at.  Then I LOOK at the horses and what their assets and flaws are.   You have to be realistic about what might happen with a cross and if it doesn't work, don't breeding those horses to each other again.  

I agree with you. My plan is to breed her around the end of may. The breeder does AI. I have looked at his pictures on the website and I have read everything that I can find about him. I really like what I see. That said I have made arrangements to go see him in person next week. It will be about a eight hour round trip but well worth it. 
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RacingQH
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Posted 2014-04-12 10:26 PM
Subject: RE: Another breeding opinion post...Please help...:O)


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Good for you re: going to see him in person. Often horses look different in pictures than they do in "real life". Sometimes better, sometimes not.
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Bandit94
Reg. Jan 2007
Posted 2014-04-13 6:20 PM
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RacingQH - 2014-04-12 8:26 PM Good for you re: going to see him in person. Often horses look different in pictures than they do in "real life". Sometimes better, sometimes not.

Yes, they can and do. Especially with what they can do with pictures now. The breeder has a few videos of him which is really nice. I really want to see him in person so that I know, that he is who I think him to be...:O
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