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Location: Around here somewhere... | With regard to a LCFG, is it normal for the mare owner to give the solid colored foal to the stallion owner in order to get a re-breed? I have never dealt with one before, but thought that the norm was that the mare owner kept the solid colored foal but did not get registration papers for it. Please educate me. |
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Location: Kansas | Why wouldn't you get papers for it if it was solid? Guess I'm confused, as I'd want papers on that colt regardless if it was solid or colored. |
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Location: Around here somewhere... | hoofs_in_motion - 2014-09-10 8:28 AMWhy wouldn't you get papers for it if it was solid? Guess I'm confused, as I'd want papers on that colt regardless if it was solid or colored. So that you could get the free re-breed... But I have never had any experience with this from either the mare or stallion owner side, just what I was told by other people. I myself would rather have a solid, registered baby over 2 babies, one unregistered...
Edited by Blaundee 2014-09-10 9:44 AM
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Location: Feeding those that need me | Wow, that is ridiculously bad business and definitely not the norm. |
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Location: Kansas | Blaundee - 2014-09-10 9:43 AM hoofs_in_motion - 2014-09-10 8:28 AMWhy wouldn't you get papers for it if it was solid? Guess I'm confused, as I'd want papers on that colt regardless if it was solid or colored. So that you could get the free re-breed... But I have never had any experience with this from either the mare or stallion owner side, just what I was told by other people. I myself would rather have a solid, registered baby over 2 babies, one unregistered...
Ive never heard of this either! Hmmm i'm not sure, I've never had a paint baby. If you get a solid...can you register it, and return the baby once weaned to the stallion owner for a free re-breed? I have no idea lol |
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Location: Tyler, Texas | With a LCFG you get to keep the foal and receive a registration certificate for it, You just get a free rebreed the following year to try once more for color. We do not have any additional fees associated withthe rebreed except for shipped semen, however some farms will charge a chute fee or booking fee.
I do not think it would be good business at all for a mare owner to have to give up the foal, or not receive a registration certificate on it
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Why would someone offer a LCFG on a horse that isn't homozygous? Without being homozygous, there is no way you could guarantee your stallion is a color producer. And obviously the horse isn't homozygous if it is throwing solid color foals. |
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| TheOldGrayMare - 2014-09-10 10:38 AM
Why would someone offer a LCFG on a horse that isn't homozygous? Without being homozygous, there is no way you could guarantee your stallion is a color producer. And obviously the horse isn't homozygous if it is throwing solid color foals.
It is also like a LFG, you cannot guarantee the foal will live, but you have to help mitigate some of the risk or people wouldn't pay the money to play.
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Location: Tyler, Texas | Our stallions are not homozygous, however I do offer a LCFG. People breed to an APHA praying for color. I feel as a breeder, the least I can do is offer you a rebreed if you do not get a foal that is eligible for full registration.
It is not something I have to do, but rather something I choose to do as a courtesy to my clients.
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Location: Around here somewhere... | Thank you for clearing that up Lonestar :) |
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Location: Kansas | LoneStar - 2014-09-10 10:45 AM Our stallions are not homozygous, however I do offer a LCFG. People breed to an APHA praying for color. I feel as a breeder, the least I can do is offer you a rebreed if you do not get a foal that is eligible for full registration.
It is not something I have to do, but rather something I choose to do as a courtesy to my clients.
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Location: Washington. (The DRY side.) | Even if a stallion (or mare) IS homozygous tobiano, you can STILL get a "solid" foal. The foal would have one copy of the tobiano gene, but NOT have enough white for "regular" papers. It's not the most common thing to happen, but it CAN and DOES happen.
As far as the original question. If the LCGF required anything like that, I would go elsewhere. MARE owner should get to keeop the solid colored foal and it SHOULD be able to be registered.
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| So, I'm going to feed my mare, pay vet bills and take the chance with her health to give the stallion owner my foal? Yeah right.
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