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Lmichaels Reg. Feb 2007	Posted 2014-04-18 4:42 PM Subject: Bleeders - Lasix/Amicar/Kentucky Red
Expert Posts: 1218 Location: South MS	I am needing to add something to my lasix for my bleeder - I have heard of using Amicar/Kentucky Red/Dex with their lasix and was just curious who is doing what and what your schedule was for administering it. I had him scoped and he was clear and then he bled through lasix again after coming off several months to recover and several weeks of conditioning to get back in shape. He is getting supplements for the bleeding but its not working alone
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racer4267 Reg. Jun 2006	Posted 2014-04-18 5:20 PM Subject: RE: Bleeders - Lasix/Amicar/Kentucky Red
Veteran Posts: 231 Location: OK	I use lasix - kentucky red & a flair strip with success
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bscanchaser Reg. Feb 2005	Posted 2014-04-18 6:04 PM Subject: RE: Bleeders - Lasix/Amicar/Kentucky Red
	Straight K Red and lung aid.
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WetSaddleBlankets Reg. Nov 2010	Posted 2014-04-18 6:16 PM Subject: RE: Bleeders - Lasix/Amicar/Kentucky Red
Gettin Jiggy Wit It Posts: 2734	Where can you get kentucky red and is it USEF legal (for WPRA rodeos/events)? and do you just give the kenucky red by itself or do you give lasix as well??? DO you give it IV or IM.
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barrelracingchick16 Reg. Aug 2004	Posted 2014-04-18 6:37 PM Subject: RE: Bleeders - Lasix/Amicar/Kentucky Red
It Goes On Posts: 2262 Location: Muskogee, OK	What is the mechanism of action of Kentucky Red? I'm surprised I have never heard of it. Edited by barrelracingchick16 2014-04-18 6:38 PM
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Cowlover2 Reg. Jun 2012	Posted 2014-04-18 7:27 PM Subject: RE: Bleeders - Lasix/Amicar/Kentucky Red
Member Posts: 32	I have to use the Kentucky red and 4 cc LAsix She is a very bad bleeder before we switched she was on 9 cc LAsix. Have been able to do these meds even in the very hot humid weather and it holds her.
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bigbob Reg. Sep 2005	Posted 2014-04-18 8:51 PM Subject: RE: Bleeders - Lasix/Amicar/Kentucky Red
Elite Veteran Posts: 1094 Location: Florida	I ran my gelding on 4-6cc lasix for a year and he started bleeding threw. This year my vet added Ventipulim along wiht lasix. I am running on 6-7cc lasix IV 1.5 hrs out and 3cc Ventipulim orally 3 hours out. I have thought about trying kentucky red but everyone I know (vets and race trainers) all said not to use it?
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Lmichaels Reg. Feb 2007	Posted 2014-04-18 9:23 PM Subject: RE: Bleeders - Lasix/Amicar/Kentucky Red
Expert Posts: 1218 Location: South MS	For those using Kentucky Red - how are you dosing it? I was told 3cc night before and 3cc 3 hours out with my lasix (IV) Is that what everyone is doing?
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readytorodeo Reg. Dec 2005	Posted 2014-04-19 6:37 AM Subject: RE: Bleeders - Lasix/Amicar/Kentucky Red
Expert Posts: 3514	My horse is a silent bleeder. I use Lasix and put the Aculife Patches on the lung points. It is working and the best thing is I'm not giving a lot of drugs.
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heidiinaz Reg. Dec 2007	Posted 2014-04-19 9:14 AM Subject: RE: Bleeders - Lasix/Amicar/Kentucky Red
Expert Posts: 1226	I use 5 lasix 2 hours out and it works great. I do IM. Never heard of Kentucky red either. What is it?
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uno-dos-tres! Reg. Jul 2004	Posted 2014-04-19 10:39 AM Subject: RE: Bleeders - Lasix/Amicar/Kentucky Red
Expert Posts: 4766 Location: Bandera, TX	Carbazochrome Salicylic (Kentucky Red) is a hemostatic agent, its known to stabilize the capillary cell membranes. The MOA is unknown, however its known to reverse thrombin and typtase cascade in bleeding. Please talk to your vet about your horses circumstances. This was my starting point when I was training. 5ml night before then 3-5ml 3-4 hours pre race. OP, have you looked at getting a sonogram (or x-rays)of your horses lungs? You might get a little more info of whats going on...
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racer4267 Reg. Jun 2006	Posted 2014-04-19 10:56 AM Subject: RE: Bleeders - Lasix/Amicar/Kentucky Red
Veteran Posts: 231 Location: OK	4cc lasix IV w/2 cc Kentucky red - 2cc lasix IM 3 hrs hour & flair strip 30 minutes before run
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uno-dos-tres! Reg. Jul 2004	Posted 2014-04-19 10:59 AM Subject: RE: Bleeders - Lasix/Amicar/Kentucky Red
Expert Posts: 4766 Location: Bandera, TX	racer4267 - 2014-04-19 10:56 AM 4cc lasix IV w/2 cc Kentucky red - 2cc lasix IM 3 hrs hour & flair strip 30 minutes before run I sure like the flair strips. We use them twice with a little race track glue.
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