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Let's talk bits.. and a few other things..(Video added!)

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Bibliafarm
Reg. Jul 2008
Posted 2014-04-25 10:12 PM
Subject: RE: Let's talk bits.. and a few other things..(Video added!)


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I watched the whole video.. i personally think that first you should not ride him until you get a exam done and xrays.. he appears very sore in his hocks and possibly stifles . I also feel that the tie down should go. I think he panics with it. He appears to be in pain and yet still trys to work for you. one could say he is just "Off" from wanting to run and you not allowing it but I dont see it that way.. he wont even hold his gaits. Im surprised you still worked him...
he isnt soft at all or supple so if you lose the strong headgear and after a lameness exam and it tended to .. I think alot of basic stuff would help him gain his confidence back as far as his way of moving.. relaxed and supple . I dont think by looking at video that working him down at this point will help. and after he is painfree I think you will have a better horse.
you are to heavy handed and in turn he panics and with tie down and long shank makes it worse..
slow down ..step backwards.. basic stuff after he is looked at. right now hes running away from his hind and your hands and headgear.. just my opinion.i like him.. hes a handsome boy and appears to have a good heart.
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DashNDustem
Reg. Dec 2010
Posted 2014-04-26 12:52 PM
Subject: RE: Let's talk bits.. and a few other things..(Video added!)



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Thank you everyone for your input.

With my other gelding, I have done my fair share of research on adequan, cosequin and steroid injections ect. Folic acid is one of the most essential ingredients that can be used because it is the natural lubricant for joint health. I am a big believer in the Necessity with Glucosamine and MSM, it has done wonders for my main gelding.. he is 17 years old, has navicular, has the beginning form of osteoarthritis in his front ankles and he is doing amazing.. and he has had no injections, no rolled toes and wedge pads, is completely balanced and sound and I get him checked every year.

Will it help Ayden (the horse in question) I don’t know. But this supplement does include some of the main ingredients in Cosequin, except for the Chondroitin Sulfate which I can buy separately and add to the mix and that would be cheaper. I am in the process of contacting a vet though about having him looked at, I just can’t afford the injections.. and I have seen injections that only last a month when they say it is supposed to last 6 months. Plus it is extremely painful for them to get it, working cutting horses down in Texas I witnessed that quite a bit. You can get infections at the injection site, I just would prefer a healthier way.. injections would be my last resort.

And also like I said, I am not a fan of having the heavy long shanked bits. It took me like 3-4 months to buy the Million Dollar bit because I didn’t want to do it.. I have never had to have that type of bit on any of my horses, and I hate using it. But I guess I was being blind, thinking it was just a mental issue rather than a physical one so it was my own fault.

Bibliafarm, you are right.. he does panic with it. It does seem like he feels “trapped”, because he can’t get away but at the same time, if he CAN get away, like I stated before his head goes sky high and I can't stop him. But at the same time, if you do have that tie down on him when you stop him and get off of him once he gets done “panicing” he actually takes a moment to think about it, realizes he is okay and nothing bad happened, then he takes a deep breath and starts licking and chewing. Then you get on him and he acts like it never happened. I personally think this horse has been used as a tool the majority of his life and doesn’t know anything else. And I wouldn’t normally ride him in a tie down.. but I would rather choose the tie down over him taking off with me and putting me in danger.
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Bibliafarm
Reg. Jul 2008
Posted 2014-04-26 12:57 PM
Subject: RE: Let's talk bits.. and a few other things..(Video added!)


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I think in time and if he gets soreness fixed I think he can be reprogrammed to be supple and soft.. and not run away with you. he looks like he is running from pain issues and your hands and tiedown is there stopping him and its a no win situation for him . Id not run him anymore . it will take time and patience..just my opinion..  I may be wrong to.. I think hes a neat horse.. and you will be fine and least you know something is going on and needs addressed.

Edited by Bibliafarm 2014-04-26 12:58 PM
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daisycake123
Reg. Dec 2006
Posted 2014-04-26 9:35 PM
Subject: RE: Let's talk bits.. and a few other things..(Video added!)


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Before you take him to the vet at least 2 weeks take him off all supliments as it could hide some of the soreness issues.
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Honeymoney
Reg. Apr 2012
Posted 2014-04-26 11:21 PM
Subject: RE: Let's talk bits.. and a few other things..(Video added!)


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Personally, I do not think your tie down is too tight. I have used tie downs on a LOT of horses over a period of 40 years. A good way to check for correct adjustment is to saddle up, bridle up and raise the tie down strap up. It should just touch the throatlatch. I use a tie down on one horse now. The way his neck ties into his neck makes it a little hard for him to really flex at the pole.

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cwgrl536
Reg. Jul 2008
Posted 2014-04-27 10:27 AM
Subject: RE: Let's talk bits.. and a few other things..(Video added!)


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I agree with everything Biblia said and I will add once he is sound and not sore it will take him a good while to develop all of the muscles needed to carry himself round all the time and use himself correctly, it won't happen in 40 days. He is sweet honest horse from the looks of it just in pain...good luck.  
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