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3canstorun
Reg. May 2007
Posted 2014-04-30 2:12 PM
Subject: RE: Donald Sterling's remarks



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Nevertooold - 2014-04-30 3:11 PM
CJE - 2014-04-30 2:04 PM
ozcancrasher13 - 2014-04-29 12:48 PM
BARRELHORSE USA - 2014-04-30 12:36 AM I don't think anyone has listened to the full conversation and the antagonistic way his mistress kept egging the conversation on .. over and over ... Sterling's mention of Magic Johnson is because Magic and an investor have been trying to oust Sterling to buy the Clippers ... Listen once ... listen twice ... this man is being attacked and his business stolen right before your eyes for doing nothing ... http://youtu.be/rK1IgqTNV1M
This is exactly what we were saying the first time we heard it.  She just wouldn't let up.  You can tell she is keeping the conversation going, trying to get him to say more and more. 



She was getting something to hold over him when she didn't get her way some time.  



He is a racist pig, but this was plain as day entrapment.   
I agree he had a long history of being a racist but nothing was every done........until now........really...........
She just said she wants to run for President one day.. 

She'll have money to campaign with.   
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Murphy
Reg. Dec 2007
Posted 2014-04-30 2:14 PM
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Nevertooold - 2014-04-30 3:11 PM
CJE - 2014-04-30 2:04 PM
ozcancrasher13 - 2014-04-29 12:48 PM
BARRELHORSE USA - 2014-04-30 12:36 AM I don't think anyone has listened to the full conversation and the antagonistic way his mistress kept egging the conversation on .. over and over ... Sterling's mention of Magic Johnson is because Magic and an investor have been trying to oust Sterling to buy the Clippers ... Listen once ... listen twice ... this man is being attacked and his business stolen right before your eyes for doing nothing ... http://youtu.be/rK1IgqTNV1M
This is exactly what we were saying the first time we heard it.  She just wouldn't let up.  You can tell she is keeping the conversation going, trying to get him to say more and more. 



She was getting something to hold over him when she didn't get her way some time.  



He is a racist pig, but this was plain as day entrapment.   
I agree he had a long history of being a racist but nothing was every done........until now........really...........
She just said she wants to run for President one day.. 

She lies, is sneaky, and records conversations without people knowing.... she is a great candidate!  
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Reg. Aug 2004
Posted 2014-04-30 2:15 PM
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smmthbr - 2014-04-30 9:20 AM I haven't read all the posts and surely this has been said, but my two cents:  I hate that he's such a bigot, and the heftiest fine in the world isn't going to make him NOT be a bigot...but what about rights for privacy?  No doubt worse things have been said thousands of times...what precedence does this set in ALL our conversations?  Libel, defamation of character?  Pretty soon no one can say anything derrogatory in any conversation for fear of that private conversation becoming public fodder and grounds for retribution.  Wonder what the gold digger got paid to distribute that taped and private conversation.  No one is safe anymore.   

And herein lies the law of unintended consequensces that many are not seeing just important this event has become. The 1st and 4th Amendment(s) in this scenario are in jeopardy. I am not saying this guy is Saint, but a real POS. However, the Constitution is what I am referencing.
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CJE
Reg. Mar 2005
Posted 2014-04-30 2:44 PM
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The high moral ground of the NBA...................

http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-Sports/2014/04/29/8-Things-That-Wont-Get-You-Banned-by-the-NBA
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3canstorun
Reg. May 2007
Posted 2014-04-30 3:01 PM
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CJE - 2014-04-30 3:44 PM The high moral ground of the NBA...................



http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-Sports/2014/04/29/8-Things-That-Wont-Get-You-Banned-by-the-NBA

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Anniemae
Reg. Jan 2004
Posted 2014-04-30 3:06 PM
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foundation horse - 2014-04-30 12:15 PM
smmthbr - 2014-04-30 9:20 AM I haven't read all the posts and surely this has been said, but my two cents:  I hate that he's such a bigot, and the heftiest fine in the world isn't going to make him NOT be a bigot...but what about rights for privacy?  No doubt worse things have been said thousands of times...what precedence does this set in ALL our conversations?  Libel, defamation of character?  Pretty soon no one can say anything derrogatory in any conversation for fear of that private conversation becoming public fodder and grounds for retribution.  Wonder what the gold digger got paid to distribute that taped and private conversation.  No one is safe anymore.   
And herein lies the law of unintended consequensces that many are not seeing just important this event has become. The 1st and 4th Amendment(s) in this scenario are in jeopardy. I am not saying this guy is Saint, but a real POS. However, the Constitution is what I am referencing.

Actually, the 1st Amendment has nothing to do with this situation.  The Government is not vilifying or punishing Sterling, the media, public and NBA is.  Public moral outrage is not illegal... 

Now, I do believe that the wench's actions were illegal, at least in this state they are. You cannot tape/record another person in private unless both parties are aware of said taping/recording.  Exception:  If there are multiple people present, then it's not considered "private" and public taping/recordng is allowed under most circumstances. 

The head shaking part is that the media is only focusing on the racist remarks Sterling made and not the illegal activity and vengeful actions of the wench. Why hasn't she been arrested?  Oh that's right, she wasn't the one who recorded Sterling or released the recording...  so who did? And wouldn't that make her an accompliance if he was unaware of the presence of another party, thus making her culpable? 

As for the NBA, they have their own set of rules and by-laws they adhere to. They are a private enterprise and govern their business as such. 

Finally, you have the owner's group, they haven't gotten together to discuss/vote about this situation yet.  A lot can happen between now and then...

This is like a really bad B rated movie, with sub par actors and it just keeps getting worse.  Did you see the wench rollar skating this morning?  WTH? 

 
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TrailGirl
Reg. Jan 2014
Posted 2014-04-30 3:23 PM
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the only reason Sterling is gone is media-driven hysteria over a private tape release. It certainly isn’t the NBA’s high moral standard with regard to language, race, or activity."

Well....that sums it up nicely.  Great article...thanks for posting the link.  

Edited by TrailGirl 2014-04-30 3:24 PM
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Douglas J Gordon
Reg. Jun 2008
Posted 2014-04-30 3:28 PM
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NBA Legend Kareem Abdul-Jabbar Rips BOTH SIDES in Donald Sterling ‘Scandal’
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The NBA players, media, and grievance mongers such as Al Sharpton are up in arms over vile L.A. Clippers owner Donald Sterling’s alleged racist remarks. But NBA legend Kareem Abdul-Jabbar today said a pox on both your houses – calling out the hypocrisy behind the whole affair and presenting by far the most rounded  – and surprisingly libertarian — view thus far.
 
Abdul-Jabbar, in an op-ed piece in TIME attacked the collective outrage emanating from America’s media over Sterling’s aremarks to his girlfriend, calling the publication of a private conversation “sleazy” and wondering why earlier, more public manifestations of racism failed to shock those such as Al Sharpton, and the NAACP.Abdul-Jabbar explains that we’re witnessing a veritable “finger-wagging Olympics . . . all over the latest in a long line of rich white celebrities to come out of the racist closet.”
“Yes, I’m angry, too,” Abdul-Jabbar admits, “but not just about the sins of Donald Sterling. I’ve got a list.”
That list includes Sterling’s girlfriend, V. Stiviano, whose voice is heard on the racially-loaded tape and who likely set the Clippers’ owner up.
“Man, what a winding road she led him down to get all of that out,” he mocked. “She was like a sexy nanny playing ‘pin the fried chicken on the Sambo.’ She blindfolded him and spun him around until he was just blathering all sorts of incoherent racist sound bites that had the news media peeing themselves with glee.”
And speaking of the news media? “They caught big game on a slow news day,” Abdul-Jabbar explained, “so they put his head on a pike, dubbed him Lord of the Flies, and danced around him whooping.”
The former NBA all-star, who played for the Milwaukee Bucks and L.A. Lakers from 1969 to 1989, has no sympathy for Sterling. But he is upset that everyone is acting so surprised, noting that the NBA owner has said offensive comments in the past and has been sued over both housing and employment discrimination.
The NAACP “did nothing” after Sterling was forced to pay a staggering $3 million fine for denying housing to Blacks, saying they “smell, and attract vermin,” Abdul-Jabbar noted. They were even going to present Sterling with an NAACP award on May 15th, with the Rev. Al Sharpton on hand. “Suddenly he says he doesn’t want his girlfriend posing with Magic Johnson on Instagram and we bring out the torches and rope. Shouldn’t we have all called for his resignation back then?
Abdul-Jabbar is correct, but it is worse than that. The NAACP accepted" target="_blank" title="http://blacksportsonline.com/home/2014/04/donald-sterling-paid-off-naacp-for-his-awards/#cvER0Xq21QTEIiGa.99">accepted">http://blacksportsonline.com/home/2014/04/donald-sterling-paid-off-... multiple grants from the Donald T. Sterling Charitable Foundation and handed Sterling several “image awards” — despite full knowledge of his prior, massive fine for discrimination against Blacks in his slumlord housing.
Abdul-Jabbar, perhaps channeling his closet libertarianism, also blasted the fact that Sterling’s private conversation — however racist — was suddenly broadcast nationwide.
“Didn’t we just call to task the NSA for intruding into American citizen’s privacy in such an un-American way?” he asked, comparing the secret tape-recording to Mitt Romney’s embarrassing 47 percent remark, recorded without the then-candidate’s knowledge.
“The making and release of this tape is so sleazy that just listening to it makes me feel like an accomplice to the crime,” Abdul-Jabbar fumed. “We didn’t steal the cake but we’re all gorging ourselves on it.”
“So, if we’re all going to be outraged,” the former NBA star wrapped up, “let’s be outraged that we weren’t more outraged when his racism was first evident. Let’s be outraged that private conversations between people in an intimate relationship are recorded and publicly played. Let’s be outraged that whoever did the betraying will probably get a book deal, a sitcom, trade recipes with Hoda and Kathie Lee, and soon appear on ‘Celebrity Apprentice’ and ‘Dancing with the Stars.’”
Brilliant.
 
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Reg. Aug 2009
Posted 2014-04-30 3:30 PM
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TrailGirl - 2014-04-30 3:23 PM the only reason Sterling is gone is media-driven hysteria over a private tape release. It certainly isn’t the NBA’s high moral standard with regard to language, race, or activity."



Well....that sums it up nicely.  Great article...thanks for posting the link.  

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dhdqhllc
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Posted 2014-04-30 3:34 PM
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TXBO - 2014-04-30 3:30 PM
TrailGirl - 2014-04-30 3:23 PM the only reason Sterling is gone is media-driven hysteria over a private tape release. It certainly isn’t the NBA’s high moral standard with regard to language, race, or activity."



Well....that sums it up nicely.  Great article...thanks for posting the link.  
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agreed....

so what precedent does this set for anyone working for the NBA?????  or fans at NBA events????   
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3canstorun
Reg. May 2007
Posted 2014-04-30 3:38 PM
Subject: RE: Donald Sterling's remarks



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dhdqhllc - 2014-04-30 4:34 PM
TXBO - 2014-04-30 3:30 PM
TrailGirl - 2014-04-30 3:23 PM the only reason Sterling is gone is media-driven hysteria over a private tape release. It certainly isn’t the NBA’s high moral standard with regard to language, race, or activity."



Well....that sums it up nicely.  Great article...thanks for posting the link.  
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so what precedent does this set for anyone working for the NBA?????  or fans at NBA events????   

What is good for the goose, should be good for the gander................but it won't be.

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