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Miss Not Exciting
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Location: Ft Worth TX | What's a common timeline for a futurity horse looking at thei first futurity being march 2015 |
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Mrs. Txdad
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Location: the fantasy txdad married | They should be clocking 1/2 second faster than the best open horses now.
Edited by 1left2right 2014-06-08 5:55 PM
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Mrs. Txdad
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Location: the fantasy txdad married | j/k 
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Miss Not Exciting
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Location: Ft Worth TX | 1left2right - 2014-06-08 4:54 PM
j/k
Oh thank god your j/k lol I was sitting here goin maybe I ought a wait for 5yo's. my guys got 60 days and 30 more of ridding then begin patterning here pretty quick. |
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Queen Bean of Ponyland
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Location: WYOMING | Depends on the trainer and how good they know their own inner training timeline. Did a good foundation get put on the colt so that when a hiccup arises its easier to work thru. How long it takes that trainer to get one running with speed and consistency. Is the colt able to go regularly and see all the sites, pens and feel different grounds.
I was talking to someone recently who sent their colt but opps the allyway at the futurity had a walkway over it and that boogered their colts concentration... they ran out of time to get somewhere similar during training.
so those things are some things to consider when planning a timeline... but I would want mine loping confidently thru and exhibitioning now... but I take a little longer to get one running hard. |
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| 1left2right - 2014-06-08 3:54 PM
They should be clocking 1/2 second faster than the best open horses now.
These days that's not too far off base! LOL! |
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Mrs. Txdad
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Location: the fantasy txdad married | Whoop Z Day Z - 2014-06-08 5:02 PM 1left2right - 2014-06-08 4:54 PM j/k
Oh thank god your j/k lol I was sitting here goin maybe I ought a wait for 5yo's. my guys got 60 days and 30 more of ridding then begin patterning here pretty quick.
I am hauling my oldest daughter who wants to try the futurity trail with the colt I sold her last year. He will be a 4 year old. He had 60 days basics about 30 days ago...maybe more. She has him trotting and loping the pattern now and is moving forward. All we can do is hope he holds together, which I think he will. He is very good minded and she just had him gelded which will help.
We are jumping in with both feet and she is entering the OKC Juvenile this year and then on to Az, maybe the LG Classic, Diamonds and Dirt, Southwest Desert Classic and Fort Smith.
I'm sure we will figure out more to enter before making the trip back to Oklahoma Dec. 2015.
I'm pretty excited to share this adventure with her. I love the futurity people, it's like a big family seeing mostly the same ones each weekend.
We plan on spending a ton of money, doing a lot of learning and creating priceless memories :-)) |
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Miss Not Exciting
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Location: Ft Worth TX | If I could have him ready by December- I would do the juvenile at BFA but at this point idk if I can or want to push him along that quick. I could probably pattern him now but I just want a little more foundation on him so opted for another 30 on him. That will put us at July 1 to start patterning him. He picks up fast so 45-90 on the pattern and then exhibition and haul him everywhere I go. So I am looking at sept- oct to exhibition which is 6-7 months till march. Looking at Diamond and Dirt in march, Jackson Hall, bbr finals, ft smith and maybe more... |
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Location: Texas | My 3YO is high loping exhibition barrels right now. I am aiming for Diamonds and Dirt with her. I have no idea how fast she will be, but I like her :)
This was her a couple weekends ago: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YvfRrm1EZl8 |
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Mrs. Txdad
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Location: the fantasy txdad married | Whoop Z Day Z - 2014-06-08 8:52 PM
If I could have him ready by December- I would do the juvenile at BFA but at this point idk if I can or want to push him along that quick. I could probably pattern him now but I just want a little more foundation on him so opted for another 30 on him. That will put us at July 1 to start patterning him. He picks up fast so 45-90 on the pattern and then exhibition and haul him everywhere I go. So I am looking at sept- oct to exhibition which is 6-7 months till march. Looking at Diamond and Dirt in march, Jackson Hall, bbr finals, ft smith and maybe more...
Sounds like you have a good plan! We will look for you at Diamonds and Dirt and hopefully will cross paths at some more.
remember to have fun!!! Good luck :-)) |
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Mrs. Txdad
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Location: the fantasy txdad married | casualdust07 - 2014-06-08 8:55 PM My 3YO is high loping exhibition barrels right now. I am aiming for Diamonds and Dirt with her. I have no idea how fast she will be, but I like her : )
This was her a couple weekends ago: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YvfRrm1EZl8
You will do fine! Hope to see you, too :-)
Kind of wish I had my own futurity horse...I'll be entering my blown up ducker in the open races that I'm just hoping will be the horse formerly known as the blown up ducker by Diamonds and Dirt, lol |
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 Hog Tie My Mojo
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Location: Opelousas, LA | Just wondering what everyones horses were doing thier two year old year? I saw where one futurity trainer had her two year olds loping the pattern by September, is that really what you have to do these days? |
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Location: the fantasy txdad married | Barnmom - 2014-06-08 9:33 PM Just wondering what everyones horses were doing thier two year old year? I saw where one futurity trainer had her two year olds loping the pattern by September, is that really what you have to do these days?
I don't think so but, it depends on the horse. Some of them were just meant to be superstars and win even with little (by some standards) training or time on the pattern.
Others need a lot longer to come into their own.
In my life what I have noticed on quite a few that don't want to futurity but, want one "for the long haul" is that they spend too much time going slow. Flame suit zipped but, I've seen plenty burned out from doing a pattern for years, 3848575748383939 times at a slow pace. They either get ticked off or think they are suppose to go slow forever. |
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Hog Tie My Mojo
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Location: Opelousas, LA | I totally agree with you about going slow for too long. I kinda thought that was a little early to be loping the pattern, but I know it seems to be way more competitive these days also.
The only horse I ever attempted to futurity on was bought off the track Dec. of her two year old year. She dang sure didn't know much, run in a kinda sorta straight line was about it. |
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Queen Bean of Ponyland
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Location: WYOMING | 1left2right - 2014-06-08 11:39 PM
Barnmom - 2014-06-08 9:33 PM Just wondering what everyones horses were doing thier two year old year? I saw where one futurity trainer had her two year olds loping the pattern by September, is that really what you have to do these days?
I don't think so but, it depends on the horse. Some of them were just meant to be superstars and win even with little (by some standards) training or time on the pattern.
Others need a lot longer to come into their own.
In my life what I have noticed on quite a few that don't want to futurity but, want one "for the long haul" is that they spend too much time going slow. Flame suit zipped but, I've seen plenty burned out from doing a pattern for years, 3848575748383939 times at a slow pace. They either get ticked off or think they are suppose to go slow forever.
Agreed. Too slow for too long teaches them to go slow!
My 2 yr old is just riding. Trail riding. Getting super sold on my cues.
I wouldnt run a 4 yr old at DND unless it was really solid and winning already. Seemed to be way more 5 yr olds running and that xtra yr can make a big difference... but I would want to be at a place as a 4 yr old to be able to make that decision closer to that date. But thats just me! |
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Location: Texas | Barnmom - 2014-06-08 10:33 PM
Just wondering what everyones horses were doing thier two year old year? I saw where one futurity trainer had her two year olds loping the pattern by September, is that really what you have to do these days?
My 3yo was in race training her 2yo year. Kuhlmann bought her for me at the fall heritage place sale and I started riding her that weekend. Then she had a decent break spring semester and we picked up where we left off in May |
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if you are going to be competitive they had better be running Open times by January of their Futurity year. You better have hauled them for at least a year to Exhibitions and Barrel races, Rodeo's ropings etc. They need to not only look around and see the sights but get exposed to all the viruses, bugs,etc. They either get the Futurity Game or not. Been there it's extremely expensive and once your in it's just gets more so. |
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Location: Deep South | Barnmom - 2014-06-08 10:33 PM
Just wondering what everyones horses were doing thier two year old year? I saw where one futurity trainer had her two year olds loping the pattern by September, is that really what you have to do these days?
I'm sure not all of them are, but I know if you go look at colts for sale on Bo's website during the right time of year her late 2yo's are slow loping through the pattern.
I'm not alarmed by this. If you spend 4-6 months getting a colt really really broke, with all the buttons and a nice handle put on them, a good trainer can have them slow loping through the pattern in just 1-2 weeks.
So this doesn't necessarily mean they've been drilling them on the pattern over and over for months as 2yo's. I'm not sure how much they ride them through the winter, or if they just start them on the barrels and then they get a break.
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