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I keep my change in my pockets
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Location: MN | Take a bit? Or just rides better Ina hacks more or bosal(sp?)? |
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 Big Gun
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Location: Texas | mine does better in a hack. He doesnt care for any type of bit but will tolerate one for tuning but not for going fast. I was told he had a low palate but my vet says no he doesnt and it doesn't look like to me he has a low palete. As long as he does wel in a hack it doesn't bother me |
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Location: Maine | Mine will take bits but, we (both the horses and I) prefer to ride in hackamores (bosal hackamore, not mechanical). Been blessed with quiet and willing horses so, there’s really no need to use a bit. I’m not opposed to bits either, just like the qualities of a bridle horse and will move to the two-rein when each are ready and are finished in the hackamore. |
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I keep my change in my pockets
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Location: MN | We have a 3 yr old filly getting started at a trainer's place. This guy is very good. The filly is fighting the bit, if you bridle her to fast she will drop to the ground or you go slow and it takes 5 minutes if you are lucky. Riding in the bit she is mouthing the bit,dropping her head, and never relaxing. We went to the trainers monday nite so he could show us what is going on. After showing us with a couple of different bits in her mouth and us riding her too. We all decided to try a hackamore, wow what a difference she didn't drop her head, she relaxed and licked her lips( first time this has happen) and you had more control of her. The trainer is going to call us in week and tell us how it is going for her in the hack. I got my fingers cross and high hopes that this will be the turning point.
I don't have problem riding her in hack but wondering if this is a turn off for some people?
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 Miss Laundry Misshap
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| I have a gelding who does better in a hack, but I just discovered 2 bits that he tolerates exceptionally well. A chain sweet six and a chain snaffle. In any other bit, besides those two, he throws his head and tries to grab the bit and argue about giving his head. |
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 Husband Spoiler
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Location: North Dakota | I had a horse in training that was horrible with the bit. It was impossible to keep her tongue under the bit. Well I took a good look at her tongue one day and found out it was injured at one time and healed funny so it was probably really uncomfortable for her to carry a bit. I put her in a hack and she was great. |
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The Advice Guru
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| dawnb - 2014-07-16 8:13 AM
We have a 3 yr old filly getting started at a trainer's place. This guy is very good. The filly is fighting the bit, if you bridle her to fast she will drop to the ground or you go slow and it takes 5 minutes if you are lucky. Riding in the bit she is mouthing the bit,dropping her head, and never relaxing. We went to the trainers monday nite so he could show us what is going on. After showing us with a couple of different bits in her mouth and us riding her too. We all decided to try a hackamore, wow what a difference she didn't drop her head, she relaxed and licked her lips( first time this has happen) and you had more control of her. The trainer is going to call us in week and tell us how it is going for her in the hack. I got my fingers cross and high hopes that this will be the turning point.
I don't have problem riding her in hack but wondering if this is a turn off for some people?
I would be checking teeth make sure wolf teeth have been removed, I also would get chiro out and work on her TMJ.
I have one who was doing that would only accept a Mullen mouth piece, got her teeth done pulled the wolf teeth, and now she is better.
The problem with hackamores I find is I loose my lateral flexion, I can't keep my horses as soft in the ribcage as I can with a bit.
With barrels, I find the horse can get stiff and start having problems turning with a fluid motion. I usually use a s shank hack to stiffen up too bendy of a horse. |
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Location: Tennessee | I've got one that roots at the bit the entire time he's in one, no matter what kind it is. You can certainly ride him in it, but he's so much softer and supple in a beetle hack. He's not a runaway, and you can ride him in almost anything, but he turns into a different horse when you take the bit away. We've had him since he was 3 and he's always been this way, regardless of having his teeth done and chiro work. He's 14 now and we just decided to go with what works. |
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I keep my change in my pockets
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Location: MN | Trainer looked and felt but there are no wolf teeth. Hoping we will have good news in a weeks time. |
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Location: Willows, CA | I am a fan of the California bridle horse traditional training. The Hackamore phase is my favorite part of the process, and I feel the transition to the bit is easier for young horses this way using the two rein. Not many people take the time to follow this tradition any more, and most trainers would go broke trying to convince their customers that they should pay for the time it takes. The hackamore phase is used to avoid having a bit in the horses mouth at an age where there is a lot of teeth changes going on, and to protect the bars of the mouth while they are immature and still slightly soft. Damage to those soft bars can generate the reaction that you are seeing. It is fairly easy to cause in a young horse with simply with a big jerk on both reins at once with a snaffle. If that is the issue with your horse, they usually toughen up and get over it as they mature, and will accept a bit without fighting it eventually. |
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  Texas Lone Star
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Location: where ever my L/Q trl is parked | I'm a hugh fan of hacks...Jim Warner, Lil 'S' etc. I'm a light handed rider so as long as they have a decent whoa and listen/cues well, save the mouth use a hack. I will go to a bit only if the horse isn't getting what I'm looking for.
I always make sure there are no problems with teeth (wolf or other) and no other problems like TMJ or poll/neck. |
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