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| ive got a 8yr old mare i just bought from a girl that rodeos a lot, and she runs pretty decent but isn't snappy at all. mainly just on her 2nd. she doesnt come back to me when i try to ask her to finish her turn. her 1st and 3rd she doesnt have a problem with. just wondering if anyone had any advice or drills to help her come back to me alittle.. types of bits?
the girl always rode her in a time down because she can be a little pushy with the bit while running but i dont have that problem with her nearly as bad and she said she did.
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 Husband Spoiler
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Location: North Dakota | One drill you can try is to roll her back in towards the barrel where you want her to snap around at. That will teach her to get on her hip, and quicken up her front end. I believe Sherry Cervi has this drill on youtube??
ETA: Here it is! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G14k0S4Eato
Edited by Just Bring It 2014-08-13 1:54 PM
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Rad Dork
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Location: Oklahoma | I'm sure that it's no help at all, but have you tried just staying out of her way? I have a gelding that actually runs worse when with the more pocket and rate I try to get out of him (hoping to get snappy if he's not going full speed ahead). You think you're going to break the pattern and turn on the wrong side of the 2nd and 3rd barrels and somehow he miraciously seems to just suck those barrels up. The more I try to get some space on the finishing side of the barrels the worse he blows them off and you just can just feel the drifting in slow motion. Finally, at my wits end last night with him, I thought "I'm just going to let him do his own thing at his own pace" and it was actually our best pattern we'd had in a long time.... ever since I first got him and just decided I would be along for the ride! It might not help you, but I thought I would say it anyway. Because as I was working last night I kept thinking "man, tomorrow we're going to have to figure out some drills to get the snap back." My horse was originally ran w/out a tie down, then with one and then I pulled it off of him and he did fine at first. Then I put it back on him (as loose at it would go) thinking it would help some slight alley issues (which ended up being pain related) and now that he's been vetted/chiro'd/acupuntured he's back to the level headed horse I bought and the tie down is gone. |
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Red Hot Cardinal Fan
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| Just Bring It - 2014-08-13 1:50 PM One drill you can try is to roll her back in towards the barrel where you want her to snap around at. That will teach her to get on her hip, and quicken up her front end. I believe Sherry Cervi has this drill on youtube??
ETA: Here it is! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G14k0S4Eato
Interesting drill. Thanks for sharing! |
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| the drill is interesting.
I'm also wondering about just staying out of her way. Do you ride the same on the 2nd barrel that you do 1 & 3? I'm asking because I have a tendency to hang on one on the 1st barrel but not 2 & 3 and I have a mare now that if I touch her face AT ALL on the back side of 1 she will actually loose all momentum and snap and blow the backside at a lope. On 2 & 3 I instinctively leave her alone and those barrels are usually beautiful. I have really had to focus on rate- now put your hand down and use your feet and LEAVE HER ALONE LOL
I have always wanted to try the drill though to maybe keep myself from feeling like I need to use my foot on the 1st to keep her in
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| i feel like its her cause of old video with pervious owner she pulled off too. its kinda like she doesnt know where to put her feet. like she scrambles to get around but isnt smooth and snappy. she isnt like this on 1 & 3 though. she is left handed though. she does run right too but i feel she does alot better to the left. |
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Location: ohio-in my own little world with pretty ponies :) | Longneck - 2014-08-13 3:11 PM
I'm sure that it's no help at all, but have you tried just staying out of her way? I have a gelding that actually runs worse when with the more pocket and rate I try to get out of him (hoping to get snappy if he's not going full speed ahead).  You think you're going to break the pattern and turn on the wrong side of the 2nd and 3rd barrels and somehow he miraciously seems to just suck those barrels up. The more I try to get some space on the finishing side of the barrels the worse he blows them off and you just can just feel the drifting in slow motion. Finally, at my wits end last night with him, I thought "I'm just going to let him do his own thing at his own pace" and it was actually our best pattern we'd had in a long time.... ever since I first got him and just decided I would be along for the ride! It might not help you, but I thought I would say it anyway. Because as I was working last night I kept thinking "man, tomorrow we're going to have to figure out some drills to get the snap back." My horse was originally ran w/out a tie down, then with one and then I pulled it off of him and he did fine at first. Then I put it back on him (as loose at it would go) thinking it would help some slight alley issues (which ended up being pain related) and now that he's been vetted/chiro'd/acupuntured he's back to the level headed horse I bought and the tie down is gone.
My mare is like this....if you try to mess with her too much and help her out she runs passed, comes out wide...it's ugly. I've learned to let her go and let her do it. Loosening my reins helped. This may not help you but it might. |
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 The Bling Princess
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Location: North Dakota | Put her where she needs to be to get up into the turn and hip past the barrel and she'll turn snappy all on her own. Each horse is different on the path they take around the turn; some need a pocket, some don't. Combine that with a balanced horse (form to function) and they'll get around it pretty quick. |
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| Taking the pocket away when working them at home can sometimes force a horse to engage their hindquarters. I know a couple of very accomplished barrel racers who train their horses this way. I don't think it works on all horses but it certainly does on many. These girls train and slow work by keeping the horse very close (but keeping their shoulders up) to the barrels all the way around. |
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Location: United States | Try loping squares as an exercise. |
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Location: 100 miles from Nowhere, AR | I had one like that--he couldn't figure out where to put his feet to make a quick turn on the second, but had a really nice first and third. Someone suggested changing his second barrel to a square turn like what Connie combs teaches...worked like a charm. |
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| I do a spiral circle drill
Lope BIG circles and spiral down like a corkscrew smaller and smaller - instead of breaking to a trot I use my over and under and outside spur to drive them into the circle
Its almost like the are doing a reining spin when I get in small enough - then I sprint them out of the small circle about 15 ft - walk them a few minutes and then do the other side
Make sure you smooch to them so they associate the small circle and smooching with driving
Then you can add a barrel to the center of the circle
Make sure when you get small you drop your hand like you would turning a barrel
I guarantee you this will help as they learn where to put their feet and there body is bending like running barrels without burning them out on barrels |
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