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Location: MN | imturnin3 - 2014-10-15 4:26 PM
Don't want to steal this thread, and hope snoopy has found more answers as I am eager to hear what her vet says. As I feel him running off could be a sign of EIPH. I have heard of bleeders either not running or they "run scared". I went for another evaluation,second opinion. 2nd Vet agreed inflamatory airway, more blood pulled. Tests ran, all came back normal. Infection gone,inflamation is minimal. Where as before he showed infection. I just have to keep monitoring to be sure secondary infection dosen't reoccur. It's something he is allergic to, so no antibiotics are needed unless snot nose comes back. Just dex to help with his allergies. Cough has subsided as discharge has become clear and more watery not thick and yellow like it was. Wondering if an antihistamine could help him?? Any one with experience with allergy products on the market?
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Location: Lost in the swamps | Exercised induced pulmonary himorage also known as a bleeder
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Location: Lost in the swamps | Also seen horses run off due to pain and anticipating pain.everything from feet hurting to a joint huriting to a tendon strain even tmj of the jaw! Get a full work up and lameness exam |
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| I don't know if you have this where you live but we have Pythium in texas. it comes from the ground and horses cannot graze if it is on your pasture. you cannot see it. My friend has it on her place and none of her horses can get out and graze. They get conjested and cough. They also make that wheezing sound I heard on here. A lot of vets are not familiar with it and there is not much treatment. You can google it. |
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| I can add that Pythium is in the traechea not the lungs.
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Location: Cap'n Joan Rotgut.....alberta | first thing i would check is if hes a bleeder (eiph) like the previous poster said and you could also ask your vet about trachea shots (you give them for about a week)
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Location: MN | So, I have continued him on the TMS, and taken away the beet pulp, (I am just thinking of anything that was changed since I got him that could cause it). Wed. morning I gave him some Ventipulmin and that afternoon, I went for a trailride. 45 minutes and no cough up and down hills. Yesterday, I decided to let him out in the pasture after I gave him the TMS, no ventipulmin, and he started running up the hill and coughed twice, vet says to still give it till next week before he will do a scope, he doesn't do trach washes after the invention of the scope, he can get samples that way? less invasive. |
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Location: Louisiana | Your horse is probably allergic to the grasses in your pasture. I live in South LA. Just had to sell my best horse because he had similar symptoms. It is Summer Pasture Heaves and lots of horses in the Gulf Coast States get it. |
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Location: Florida.. | true about pasture allergies but i thought she said he had a gurgling in his breathing.. or something like that.. not just coughing |
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Location: MN | But when I did put him out in the pasture the other day when he ran up in the hill it was the first time I let him out for a long time. He just coughed as he was running up the hill to the pasture otherwise he has been in a large paddock on hay and grain. I took him on another trail ride last night without the ventipulmin and did some arena work and he didn't cough at all. So I took away all the things that I changed when he got here, I quit giving him beet pulp, (have no idea if that is the culprit) and I did start watering down his hay and hanging it in a mesh bag so any dust particles that were still there fell through, and I continued him on the TMS. Maybe things are turning around. |
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Location: Bandera, TX | Once you have a culture done then you can give the correct antibiotic if indeed one is needed. I like Equi-Pulmin, you can order it from 1sttofinish.com
Poss. this is an allergen response due to the recent move. |
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Location: MN | Brought him in because he started to get real bad again, and the epiglottis seemed fine, but when he went down the trachea with the scope it was full of phlegm. He went as far down as he could to look by the lungs and they seemed fine. He took a culture, ran blood tests, and white, red cells ok, and no bacteria, so he put my horse on a steroid for 2 weeks, seems to be getting better, haven't rode him yet, but will today. |
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| snoopy - 2014-10-25 7:59 AM
Brought him in because he started to get real bad again, and the epiglottis seemed fine, but when he went down the trachea with the scope it was full of phlegm. He went as far down as he could to look by the lungs and they seemed fine. He took a culture, ran blood tests, and white, red cells ok, and no bacteria, so he put my horse on a steroid for 2 weeks, seems to be getting better, haven't rode him yet, but will today.
Doe the vet have a scope that goes into the bronchioles, if not I would find a vet with the appropriate equipment |
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Location: MN | rode him tonight for awhile but after making a run he waited awhile and coughed twice?  |
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