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Location: East Texas | A horse like that in my area will bring $25K
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| for 45,000 I'd expect some standings in very large rodeos... PROVEN PROVEN PROVEN. 1d MONEY at the largest shows around. | |
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Location: western Nebraska | For those of you saying that for $45k you should place at big rodeos I say go try to buy a horse winning at the big rodeos. They are more like 150-250K. There are very few really good horses and they are not cheap to buy. 45K doesn't even pay the seasoning bill on a really good horse.
I know you can get lucky but for a true blue honest 1d horse that can win at big rodoes or big barrel races that won't scratch the surface. | |
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| doglady - 2014-10-16 7:59 PM For those of you saying that for $45k you should place at big rodeos I say go try to buy a horse winning at the big rodeos. They are more like 150-250K. There are very few really good horses and they are not cheap to buy. 45K doesn't even pay the seasoning bill on a really good horse.
I know you can get lucky but for a true blue honest 1d horse that can win at big rodoes or big barrel races that won't scratch the surface.
That is kind of what I was thinking! $45,000 for a solid and automatic 1D horse...seems inexpensive.
I guess it also goes back to the definition of a 1D horse, but when I see SOLID 1D I am thinking against pretty good competition. If the horse's results back it up, $45,000.00 seems fair to me. | |
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| Also, just to put some more facts/figures out there...
My old horse was put up for sale for $45,000.00.
He placed 8th at NBHA Youth World in the finals, qualified for the BOTB, ran 2 or 3 tenths ( can't rember which it was) off of Mulberry Canyon Moon, and was the reserve champion at Colonial Nationals.
He has other creditials, but didn't really come on like this until recently. I talked with my trainer about it, and he said he needs a little bit more solid creditials to back it up, but that he seemed to be coming on nicely. Not sure if that really gives you anything to go off of.
ETA: Mulberry Canjon Moon had ran a 15.466, but the winning time was a 15.202, and my old horse had ran a 15.541.
Edited by magic gunsmoke 2014-10-16 7:18 PM
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Location: Online | A horse is worth what someone will pay for it. I've seen 2D-3D specials sell for $20,000. Just because the seller had a big name or a big mouth. People have a tendency to lie (clutching chest and gasping) or just tell half truths.
I know people who bought a run off barrel crasher for $40,000 because it was trained by Lance Graves at some point. Never won a dime on it. | |
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Location: Texas | rodeomom13 - 2014-10-16 2:00 PM
casualdust07 - 2014-10-16 10:42 AM I think 45,000 is high, IMO. I have had horses fit that description, except maybe reversed and 1D inside 2D outside.. will go whatever speed of rider.. didn't get near that money for them. but they were 1D at the local 100-200 horse level, not the 500 horse race level. If they are 1D at a BIG race indoors, like with 500-1000 runners, then I can TOTALLY see that, if not even more money for it. But if it's 1D at a local jackpot with 100 runners… nah.
I don't agree with that. It doesn't matter if there is 500-1000 horses or 20 horses. What matters is what caliber of horses are you running against? I have been to barrel races where there were over 300 horses, none of which can run in the 1D against true 1D horses and I've been to some with 40 horses, a handful of them have been to the NFR.
Anybody can run in the 1D, and claim their horse is 1D. But who are you running against?
That's true, because I've been to small jackpots with a bunch of tough horses in it. But as a whole, on the grand scheme of things, a horse with a 1D record running at races like ANHA, big BBR races, Diamonds and Dirt, etc, will have a more impressive record than a horse who runs a local circuit and wins there. I think the key part that we both agree on, is you have to show proof of who you are running against. If you can prove it, you can price it accordingly.
I went to a jackpot in Elgin in June and ran against Tammy Fischer, Lisa Nicholas, and a whole bunch of other people… it wasn't a big race at all. I think it had 150 entered? Maybe? As long as they post the results with the rider and horse name, you can validate where you placed and the company you were with. | |
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| If she fits you good, is capable of helping you achieve your goals as a barrel racer, and money isn't an issue- then just trust your gut and go for it. It takes a lot of money, hauling, frustration, tears, etc. to get one to that level of competition and when they finally get to that point- those horses are worth their weight in gold. There has probably been more than $45k poured in to this mare in her lifetime between hauling, fees, vet bills, training, etc.
There are going to be people that say it's crazy to spend that much on a horse but do what is best for you and your situation. A young broke college kid will give much difference advice than a retired grandma wanting to enjoy the golden years so just do what is best for you. | |
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Location: Somewhere up North | If you like her and your money situation is not a problem then it doesn't matter what any of us think.....buy her!
If I were in your situation, I would be asking myself some serious questions.......such as: Am I the right fit for this horse? Do I have the abilities to get and keep her at her best? What do I expect to accomplish once I buy her? Would I haul her to the big shows or would I run her locally or both? Do I just want to be competitive everywhere I go or do I expect to win? Do I think I can win enough to get back what I paid for in the purchase price? What if something happened? (i.e. she doesn't work for me like she did her previous owner), If I needed to sell her, would I ever be able monetarily get back out of her what I spend and put into her once I buy her? Does any of this really matter/
Best of luck but please do some soul searching before you make the final decision.
Edited by buckeye4u 2014-10-17 7:09 AM
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Location: Michigan | buckeye4u - 2014-10-17 7:07 AM
If you like her and your money situation is not a problem then it doesn't matter what any of us think.....buy her!
If I were in your situation, I would be asking myself some serious questions.......such as: Am I the right fit for this horse? Do I have the abilities to get and keep her at her best? What do I expect to accomplish once I buy her? Would I haul her to the big shows or would I run her locally or both? Do I just want to be competitive everywhere I go or do I expect to win? Do I think I can win enough to get back what I paid for in the purchase price? What if something happened? (i.e. she doesn't work for me like she did her previous owner), If I needed to sell her, would I ever be able monetarily get back out of her what I spend and put into her once I buy her? Does any of this really matter/
Best of luck but please do some soul searching before you make the final decision.
This is more along the idea of my thinking. If I was going to pay big $ I would want a good bit of saddle time on the horse and a couple runs to make sure we are a good fit.
I have seen many people purchase high dollar horses that ran very well for the previous rider, only to not be able to reproduce their results. Not everyone is going to be capable to ride a top caliber horse to it's full potential, it is a team sport. Your times will always be limited to the weakest link horse or rider.
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