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 Bulls Eye
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Location: Oklahoma | I don't have an unlimited bank account to promote mine. Honestly, people see what a good all around horse he is and what his temperament is like and it's been positive responses. |
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 Guys Just Wanna Have Fun
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Location: OH | I have found that it is really tough until he has some get out there running and winning. You can tell people how great they are till you are blue in the face, but until they see the finished product you are throwing money into the wind advertising. This is why I always suggest to new stallion owners that you need to have some of your own mares to get foals on the ground to get the wheels turning. |
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Bulls Eye
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Location: Oklahoma | Mighty Broke - 2014-10-23 2:56 PM I have found that it is really tough until he has some get out there running and winning. You can tell people how great they are till you are blue in the face, but until they see the finished product you are throwing money into the wind advertising. This is why I always suggest to new stallion owners that you need to have some of your own mares to get foals on the ground to get the wheels turning.
I finally took your advice.... |
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  That's White "Man" to You
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Guys Just Wanna Have Fun
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Location: OH | TwistedK - 2014-10-23 4:00 PM Mighty Broke - 2014-10-23 2:56 PM I have found that it is really tough until he has some get out there running and winning. You can tell people how great they are till you are blue in the face, but until they see the finished product you are throwing money into the wind advertising. This is why I always suggest to new stallion owners that you need to have some of your own mares to get foals on the ground to get the wheels turning. I finally took your advice....
GEEZ---bout time. LOL |
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| Mighty Broke - 2014-10-23 2:56 PM
I have found that it is really tough until he has some get out there running and winning. You can tell people how great they are till you are blue in the face, but until they see the finished product you are throwing money into the wind advertising. This is why I always suggest to new stallion owners that you need to have some of your own mares to get foals on the ground to get the wheels turning.
As a mare owner, this is TRUE. I don't care about fancy slick ads. I want to see consistent quality get. EVERYONE says their stud is good minded and athletic blah blah blah. I haven't seen many ugly studs offered up. He can be as pretty and sweet as you say he is, but does he pass that along is my question. The smart stud owners I've seen keep their studs private and breed only quality mares and make damn sure those babies are treated right and winning. THEN take him public and be a me to point at the success. The last thing I'd think a stallion owner wants is to get their stud bred to a dink of a mare his first foal crop and have some less-than desirable baby out there making him look bad before anyone else knows anything about him as a sire.
I could be wrong, I don't stand any studs. Just business sense combined with horse industry experience. |
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 Chasin my Dream
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Location: Alberta | (From what I've seen) getting a stallion in the right trainer/rider hands (if you want him to compete) is key as well. |
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That's White "Man" to You
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| So what about an older stallion like say...12 years old? |
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Guys Just Wanna Have Fun
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Location: OH | HorseMommyFiveO - 2014-10-23 4:57 PM
Mighty Broke - 2014-10-23 2:56 PM
I have found that it is really tough until he has some get out there running and winning. You can tell people how great they are till you are blue in the face, but until they see the finished product you are throwing money into the wind advertising. This is why I always suggest to new stallion owners that you need to have some of your own mares to get foals on the ground to get the wheels turning.
As a mare owner, this is TRUE. I don't care about fancy slick ads. I want to see consistent quality get. EVERYONE says their stud is good minded and athletic blah blah blah. I haven't seen many ugly studs offered up. He can be as pretty and sweet as you say he is, but does he pass that along is my question. The smart stud owners I've seen keep their studs private and breed only quality mares and make damn sure those babies are treated right and winning. THEN take him public and be a me to point at the success. The last thing I'd think a stallion owner wants is to get their stud bred to a dink of a mare his first foal crop and have some less-than desirable baby out there making him look bad before anyone else knows anything about him as a sire.
I could be wrong, I don't stand any studs. Just business sense combined with horse industry experience.
Exactly the reason that we do not stand ours to outside mares at this time. In fact, our one studs very first foal is going to be runninh here in a matter of minutes at Congress. I will take quality over quantity any time. |
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 Coyote Country Queen
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| I'd like to join in this discussion, too. I have a yearling that I'm considering leaving intact. Our first step is getting the genetic testing done. If he's positive anywhere he'll be gelded. Our next step is to send him to the track. I feel very comfortable with who we've chosen to send him to. Depending on how he handles that will determine if he stays intact or not. Then on to the barrel pen, and again his performance will determine whether he remains a stallion or not.
I know that it costs money to promote a stallion. From training, hauling and entering, to advertising and getting our own mares in foal and then promoting those foals. And I'm not going to waste my time on something that just isn't the whole package.
As soon as I get some help for pictures I'm going to get some nice conformation shots and post them on here and ask for some serious critiques. If the general consensus is not positive about his conformation and pedigree then I will be seriously reconsidering his potential as a stallion. Of course I like him and his personality, along with his dam and siblings, but I don't want to hassle with a stallion if I'm the only one interested in him!
Any thoughts or comments in my plan of action? |
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Location: Royal J Performance Horses, AZ | Jenbabe - 2014-10-23 4:26 PM
I'd like to join in this discussion, too. I have a yearling that I'm considering leaving intact. Our first step is getting the genetic testing done. If he's positive anywhere he'll be gelded. Our next step is to send him to the track. I feel very comfortable with who we've chosen to send him to. Depending on how he handles that will determine if he stays intact or not. Then on to the barrel pen, and again his performance will determine whether he remains a stallion or not.
I know that it costs money to promote a stallion. From training, hauling and entering, to advertising and getting our own mares in foal and then promoting those foals. And I'm not going to waste my time on something that just isn't the whole package.
As soon as I get some help for pictures I'm going to get some nice conformation shots and post them on here and ask for some serious critiques. If the general consensus is not positive about his conformation and pedigree then I will be seriously reconsidering his potential as a stallion. Of course I like him and his personality, along with his dam and siblings, but I don't want to hassle with a stallion if I'm the only one interested in him!
Any thoughts or comments in my plan of action?
that sounds good to me! i'm eager to see the information and pics on him in the future!
I wish more people would do this, but SOOO many people even the TOP breeders or people well known start breeding a 2 year old to a whole line of mares before they know if the stud can do anything or will be any kind of a performer.
but it is what it is, people are always trying to get a jump on promoting a horse. |
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Coyote Country Queen
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| Fancie_That_Chrome_ - 2014-10-23 5:37 PM
Jenbabe - 2014-10-23 4:26 PM
I'd like to join in this discussion, too. I have a yearling that I'm considering leaving intact. Our first step is getting the genetic testing done. If he's positive anywhere he'll be gelded. Our next step is to send him to the track. I feel very comfortable with who we've chosen to send him to. Depending on how he handles that will determine if he stays intact or not. Then on to the barrel pen, and again his performance will determine whether he remains a stallion or not.
I know that it costs money to promote a stallion. From training, hauling and entering, to advertising and getting our own mares in foal and then promoting those foals. And I'm not going to waste my time on something that just isn't the whole package.
As soon as I get some help for pictures I'm going to get some nice conformation shots and post them on here and ask for some serious critiques. If the general consensus is not positive about his conformation and pedigree then I will be seriously reconsidering his potential as a stallion. Of course I like him and his personality, along with his dam and siblings, but I don't want to hassle with a stallion if I'm the only one interested in him!
Any thoughts or comments in my plan of action?
that sounds good to me! i'm eager to see the information and pics on him in the future!
I wish more people would do this, but SOOO many people even the TOP breeders or people well known start breeding a 2 year old to a whole line of mares before they know if the stud can do anything or will be any kind of a performer.
but it is what it is, people are always trying to get a jump on promoting a horse.
Thanks! I'm going to try to get some pictures this weekend. If all goes as planned he will head to the trainer next month. I just hope he wants to run! The genetics are there, the rest is up to him! |
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Location: Wonderful Wyoming | Carol Rose once said you keep them in the spot light as long as possible, something to the extent-do it until their foals speak for themselves, which takes a very long time on barrel stallions. That is one of the reasons I am taking a friends FG/PITS stallion on the road. Barrels and an AQHA All Around are our goals. He won futurity money and then kind of sat at home. He recently paid him into Future Fortunes, he has foals doing well at sales in the Tri State area. He also had some nice ads made and is putting him in some of the popular barrel magazines. I will plaster him all over the internet. People can't breed to something they don't know is out there.
To do it right it takes money, you just have to HOPE they will earn that money back 10 fold once the babies start competing. |
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Coyote Country Queen
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| That sounds like some good advice. Awhile back I was going through some old Barrel Horse News tearing out any articles I wanted to keep. I noticed quite a few stallion ads that the stallions are no longer really being advertised. It made me wonder if they didn't produce, didn't have enough interest from mare owners, or if the owners simply ran out of money. I think that to do this right you've really got to have a game plan. The right training, advertising, etc. Even if you have an excellent horse, if nobody knows about them they won't breed to them. I know of a really nice local stallion that wasn't really advertised. I would have bred a lot of mares to him, but there just wasn't a strong market for his babies because nobody knew about them. |
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Bulls Eye
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Location: Oklahoma | Whiteboy - 2014-10-23 5:16 PM So what about an older stallion like say...12 years old?
Hmmm... I would think that bloodlines speak for themselves. |
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Location: Desert Land | Whiteboy - 2014-10-23 3:16 PM So what about an older stallion like say...12 years old?
Breed him to the best mares you can and get the babies on the ground and in to the hands of people capable of making them stars. |
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Location: At the race track with Ah Dee Ohs | Jenbabe - 2014-10-23 5:45 PM Fancie_That_Chrome_ - 2014-10-23 5:37 PM Jenbabe - 2014-10-23 4:26 PM I'd like to join in this discussion, too. I have a yearling that I'm considering leaving intact. Our first step is getting the genetic testing done. If he's positive anywhere he'll be gelded. Our next step is to send him to the track. I feel very comfortable with who we've chosen to send him to. Depending on how he handles that will determine if he stays intact or not. Then on to the barrel pen, and again his performance will determine whether he remains a stallion or not. I know that it costs money to promote a stallion. From training, hauling and entering, to advertising and getting our own mares in foal and then promoting those foals. And I'm not going to waste my time on something that just isn't the whole package. As soon as I get some help for pictures I'm going to get some nice conformation shots and post them on here and ask for some serious critiques. If the general consensus is not positive about his conformation and pedigree then I will be seriously reconsidering his potential as a stallion. Of course I like him and his personality, along with his dam and siblings, but I don't want to hassle with a stallion if I'm the only one interested in him! Any thoughts or comments in my plan of action? that sounds good to me! i'm eager to see the information and pics on him in the future! I wish more people would do this, but SOOO many people even the TOP breeders or people well known start breeding a 2 year old to a whole line of mares before they know if the stud can do anything or will be any kind of a performer. but it is what it is, people are always trying to get a jump on promoting a horse. Thanks! I'm going to try to get some pictures this weekend. If all goes as planned he will head to the trainer next month. I just hope he wants to run! The genetics are there, the rest is up to him!
You have sparked my interest in the pics since I still have yet to see him!!! Hehe!! I can't wait to see them. |
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Coyote Country Queen
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| total performance - 2014-10-24 2:42 PM
Jenbabe - 2014-10-23 5:45 PM Fancie_That_Chrome_ - 2014-10-23 5:37 PM Jenbabe - 2014-10-23 4:26 PM I'd like to join in this discussion, too. I have a yearling that I'm considering leaving intact. Our first step is getting the genetic testing done. If he's positive anywhere he'll be gelded. Our next step is to send him to the track. I feel very comfortable with who we've chosen to send him to. Depending on how he handles that will determine if he stays intact or not. Then on to the barrel pen, and again his performance will determine whether he remains a stallion or not. I know that it costs money to promote a stallion. From training, hauling and entering, to advertising and getting our own mares in foal and then promoting those foals. And I'm not going to waste my time on something that just isn't the whole package. As soon as I get some help for pictures I'm going to get some nice conformation shots and post them on here and ask for some serious critiques. If the general consensus is not positive about his conformation and pedigree then I will be seriously reconsidering his potential as a stallion. Of course I like him and his personality, along with his dam and siblings, but I don't want to hassle with a stallion if I'm the only one interested in him! Any thoughts or comments in my plan of action? that sounds good to me! i'm eager to see the information and pics on him in the future! I wish more people would do this, but SOOO many people even the TOP breeders or people well known start breeding a 2 year old to a whole line of mares before they know if the stud can do anything or will be any kind of a performer. but it is what it is, people are always trying to get a jump on promoting a horse. Thanks! I'm going to try to get some pictures this weekend. If all goes as planned he will head to the trainer next month. I just hope he wants to run! The genetics are there, the rest is up to him!
Now I'm getting nervous! I want people to see him and love him, but what if I've been blinded because I raised him! I'll do my best to get some pictures this weekend.
Total Performance, you'll probably see him and wonder how you'll ever get him in shape! I'll try to get some pictures of the filly, too. She's a spitfire, and he's super laid back, they couldn't be more opposite. |
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