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 No Tune in a Bucket
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Location: Texas | Grandgirl was riding a different horse today that they don't know a whole lot about. They tried her with a simple little chain bit and some other bit, but she got her tongue over both bits. I did not see how they had them adjusted since they had a hack on her when they came over here. I don't really like the way that she rode with the hack. Has anyone ever had this problem?
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Location: on my horse | yeah, I've had horses do it before. I usually raise it up in their mouths for a couple days to see if I can get them to quit trying and if that doesn't work I put it back where it's supposed to be and use a caveson for a while to kind of break the habit of trying.
My first move would be to get her teeth checked though especially if you don't know her past dental history, most of the time when one of mine has tried it it's stemmed from a current or past dental problem, and depending on how bad the issue was (say I just bought a horse or a colt losing teeth) I move to the above steps. |
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Location: Pacific Northwest | I have a horse that does this with almost every single bit I've ever put him in. Even in a hackamore he's constantly flapping his lips and being obnoxious. |
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  Twin Sister to Queen Boobie
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Location: East Tennessee but who knows?! | I read an article that Les Vogt wrote about bitting and colts. He said that if you drop a bit lower in their mouths, instead of keeping it higher, that they have to suck it up to keep it comfortable and they'll learn how to carry it better. I've tried that on several and it's worked.
The other alternative is to use a caveson. |
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Sock Snob
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| It saw that somwhere too, i rode english all my childhood and we where always told to keep the bit high and through all my western pleasure stuff. The those guys on tv got me to lowering bits a little. My gelding imhave a combo,bit on him he likes it a littler lower doesnot chew it and responds great. I thinks it needs another hole in bridle. But it works, it is not broke and i will leave it alone.
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Location: South Dakota | I've got a horse I've just started riding and he has been doing this too. I moved it up a little and it seemed to help but it took me about 3 or 4 times to get his bridle on cause he kept trying to get his tongue over it. |
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 Special Somebody
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Location: Finally horseback again.... | I attended a Dale Myler seminar a couple weeks ago on bitting that was very informative.
Most of the issues of getting a tongue over the bit come from either dental pain or pain/ discomfort from the type of bit not fitting the palate of the mouth and tongue.
Some horses have a very shallow palate and their tongues may be extremely thick. When a chain mouth piece puts pressure on the tongue alot of horses will draw their tongue up into the back of the mouth to relieve the discomfort. They cant keep it that way for long periods though because they actually cut off their airflow by putting pressure on the soft palate at the back of the mouth.
He advised getting the teeth done and eliminating pain from that and going to a bit that will have some tongue relief such as a small port or solid curved mouth piece.
Im sure I dont explain it as clearly as he did, but he has a book on it if you can find it.
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 Accident Prone
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Location: 100 miles from Nowhere, AR | Canchasr1 - 2014-10-30 8:34 AM I attended a Dale Myler seminar a couple weeks ago on bitting that was very informative.
Most of the issues of getting a tongue over the bit come from either dental pain or pain/ discomfort from the type of bit not fitting the palate of the mouth and tongue.
Some horses have a very shallow palate and their tongues may be extremely thick. When a chain mouth piece puts pressure on the tongue alot of horses will draw their tongue up into the back of the mouth to relieve the discomfort. They cant keep it that way for long periods though because they actually cut off their airflow by putting pressure on the soft palate at the back of the mouth.
He advised getting the teeth done and eliminating pain from that and going to a bit that will have some tongue relief such as a small port or solid curved mouth piece.
Im sure I dont explain it as clearly as he did, but he has a book on it if you can find it.
^^^^^ This. And the horses I have had do this don't like a lot of tongue pressure, for whatever reason, even if there is nothing obviously extreme about their mouth conformation and their teeth are good. Give them a little tongue relief and they're good to go. The low palate/thick tongues usually end up in a hackamore. |
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No Tune in a Bucket
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Location: Texas | Why didn't I think of that? This mare has been turned out for quite a while and I am sure that her teeth really need to be done. She is very sweet and you call tell that she is patterned and just needs a chance. |
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Miracle in the Making
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| at the track we tied ran a piece of clothe threw the hole in the bit snaffle and tied it
i have always tied if they keep flipping it |
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