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Location: Bastrop, TX | Wish someone would have told me things that were going on then I would not had to spend 6 years and thousands of dollars trying to get mine sound again to end up putting him to sleep as a 9 yr old. |
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Miss Not Exciting
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Location: Ft Worth TX | The horses are ribby b/c they arent fed enough by any means- they sit in a stall 90% of the time if not more. This was over a 2 week period and was drinking every last moments and IS abusive in his training. I know theres a fine line and he crossed it. One horse took nearly a month to heal.... I was first hand eye witness. I know the owner but am not her BFF by any means. |
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| cow pie - 2014-11-21 7:51 AM Same something. Silence is not golden. Stand for something.jmo 
edited to add I would be beyond mad if my horses were in a situation like this and there was an opportunity for me to be told but the messenger chose to be silent. I know the owner is responsible for doing their due dilligence in choosing a trainer but you don't let animals get abused because of other's poor choices.
Edited by rodeomom3 2014-11-21 6:40 PM
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  Warmblood with Wings
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Location: Florida.. | If you saw it and not from others mouths.. id ceratinly tell owner you have "concerns".. Id not tell others..keep it a private professional situation.. but yes id voice my concerns if you saw witnessed and know it for facts. |
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Miss Not Exciting
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Location: Ft Worth TX | Bibliafarm - 2014-11-21 5:38 PM
If you saw it and not from others mouths.. id ceratinly tell owner you have "concerns".. Id not tell others..keep it a private professional situation.. but yes id voice my concerns if you saw witnessed and know it for facts.
I was thinking of just dropping her a text saying "you really need to check on your horses with *********" |
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Location: Florida.. | I would call her..voice your concerns..keep it to the point ..no overly dramatic stuff.. what you wintnessed and tell her she should just make sure it isnt what it appears.. because youd be concerned....... good luck |
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Location: EDGE OF INSANITY | LindsayJordan84 - 2014-11-21 12:05 AM
LRQHS - 2014-11-20 11:50 AM I would call them from a pay phone, muffle my voice and say, "go check on your horses today."
Do pay phones still exist?!?
Just think, the poor kids growing up in the future will never know the thrill of prank calling someone from a parking lot. *tear*
To the OP, unless it was my best best friend, I'd stay out of it.
there is an app you can put on your phone to make it look like you are calling from another #, and an app to change your voice. Not that i have used it or anything  |
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Warmblood with Wings
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Location: Florida.. | if I got a call from that type thing It would appear someone just has it in for the trainer.. id call personally |
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Location: ND | so exactly how do you know all this and what is the outcome you are hoping for??? |
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| dhdqhllc - 2014-11-21 7:32 PM
so exactly how do you know all this and what is the outcome you are hoping for???
She said she witnessed it, I assume she hopes the owner will investigate. |
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Miss Not Exciting
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Location: Ft Worth TX | rodeomom3 - 2014-11-21 6:48 PM
dhdqhllc - 2014-11-21 7:32 PM
so exactly how do you know all this and what is the outcome you are hoping for???
She said she witnessed it, I assume she hopes the owner will investigate.
All I am hoping for is te owner to look a little deeper. I could care less what happens but it is weighing heavy on my mind that I need to at least make her aware. |
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Always Off Topic
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Location: ND | Whoop Z Day Z - 2014-11-21 8:53 PM rodeomom3 - 2014-11-21 6:48 PM dhdqhllc - 2014-11-21 7:32 PM so exactly how do you know all this and what is the outcome you are hoping for??? She said she witnessed it, I assume she hopes the owner will investigate. All I am hoping for is te owner to look a little deeper. I could care less what happens but it is weighing heavy on my mind that I need to at least make her aware.
so do you work there,????have a horse in training there ???? live there???? |
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| I sent my DFP colt to someone most of us know or have heard of in April this year. He got dropped off at my barrel trainer July 1. Barrel trainer called and says, "this horse doesn't know anything, and is scared of being handled." Didn't tell me you could see every rib, and that he looked like cr*p. Called first trainer and spoke to him and he said second trainer must be doing something wrong. That convo didn't feel right, so I headed down to see the horse. When I found Peon in his stall, head down, looked like he'd been dragged thru the desert, scruffy coat, pot belly, -0- topline, every rib visible, sharp points on hip and butt, I about cried. But at least I knew which trainer was bs-ing.
I didn't call out the first trainer for almost two months. Finally did when he blocked me on fb and phone. I never called him out here on BHW, but now I wonder if I should. At NBHA World, one of my bestest friends talked to him about Peon and he said he didn't need any excuses, that the horse looked like any 3yo would when being worked. My friend, who saw Peon the day after he arrived at the barrel trainers, gave him a few choice words, but the first trainer just blew her off.
I was in such shock, and so hurt, the first visit with Peon that I didn't get pics. My friend got pics of him on 7/11/14 (he got dropped off on 7/1/14, so he'd had good food for 10 days in the first pics). He looked much worse on 7/5/14, the first time I saw him. The second pic is him the first weekend in October 2014, here at home for the winter.
I lost futurity potential for this colt. He is the last crop of DFP, out of a very good money winning 97 si mare. MUCH potential was lost from what this first trainer did (didn't) do with the colt. Peon was SCARED of people for the first month at the barrel trainers. This horse is a total PET. He love, love, loves people.
If someone would have told me that my horse was sitting in a stall, not being fed, and somehow being abused mentally, I'd've had a transporter there asap to haul him either home or to the barrel trainers.
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Location: Texas | If it were my horse I would want to know! If it were me seeing someone else's horse in this situation I would contact the owner! |
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