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Location: At the race track with Ah Dee Ohs | Nevertooold - 2014-11-25 4:50 PM total performance - 2014-11-25 3:41 PM rodeomom13 - 2014-11-25 1:51 PM cheryl makofka - 2014-11-25 10:38 AM I was always told never inject cortisone into a knee. I believe it says right on the package do not inject into a high motion joint. Cortisone eats away at cartilage. I would be discussing the injection and the surgical options with the most knowledgable and experienced surgical vet. As the cortisone will also impede healing and the cortisone and chip may have already done too much damage for the horse to recover 100 That's interesting because race trainers are notorious for injecting every joint. But then they don't really care, they are usually done with the horse after their 3 year old year anyway. Not their problem.
I don't believe in injecting anyway. Unless there is arthritis and it's the only way to keep the horse comfortable. However it is only a temporary fix.
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Location: Tulsa, Ok | total performance - 2014-11-25 3:41 PM rodeomom13 - 2014-11-25 1:51 PM cheryl makofka - 2014-11-25 10:38 AM I was always told never inject cortisone into a knee. I believe it says right on the package do not inject into a high motion joint. Cortisone eats away at cartilage. I would be discussing the injection and the surgical options with the most knowledgable and experienced surgical vet. As the cortisone will also impede healing and the cortisone and chip may have already done too much damage for the horse to recover 100 That's interesting because race trainers are notorious for injecting every joint. But then they don't really care, they are usually done with the horse after their 3 year old year anyway. Not their problem.
I don't believe in injecting anyway. Unless there is arthritis and it's the only way to keep the horse comfortable. However it is only a temporary fix.
When you have horses running thru their 5 and 6 year old years and then going immediately to the rodeo arena, and remaining sound into their late 20s and 30s, it means things were done right.
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Location: Wonderful Wyoming | My thoughts are with the price of injections and Adequan etc, you will have the $1500+ spent pretty fast and still have a chip. I would remove the chip for the same reasons everyone else listed. |
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Location: Online | SC Wrangler - 2014-11-25 8:13 PM total performance - 2014-11-25 3:41 PM rodeomom13 - 2014-11-25 1:51 PM cheryl makofka - 2014-11-25 10:38 AM I was always told never inject cortisone into a knee. I believe it says right on the package do not inject into a high motion joint. Cortisone eats away at cartilage. I would be discussing the injection and the surgical options with the most knowledgable and experienced surgical vet. As the cortisone will also impede healing and the cortisone and chip may have already done too much damage for the horse to recover 100 That's interesting because race trainers are notorious for injecting every joint. But then they don't really care, they are usually done with the horse after their 3 year old year anyway. Not their problem.
I don't believe in injecting anyway. Unless there is arthritis and it's the only way to keep the horse comfortable. However it is only a temporary fix.
When you have horses running thru their 5 and 6 year old years and then going immediately to the rodeo arena, and remaining sound into their late 20s and 30s, it means things were done right.
WHOA!! What NTO said. Take a deep breath and count to 10. Maybe I should have said "some" race trainers. Sorry if I offended. Not my intention.
In recent years we've just been jilted by one trainer in particular, and had another one tell us that's the cure all. Long story. You have to admit though, there are a lot of trainers out there who over inject. There are a lot of trainers that don't care. I've witnessed it first hand. All they want to do is win. This goes along the same lines and the drug crackdown. Not all trainers use drugs, yet some honest trainers are being lumped with those who do. Again... Long story. |
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Location: You never know where I will show up...... | SKM - 2014-11-25 3:36 PM Floating chips will continue to cause damage until they are removed. Yes, I've had lots of experience with chips. Injecting will not solve the problem.
A 1D horse not able to finish the turns and drawing 3D checks is not something that I'd be happy with myself. That just means the horse is not able to run to its full potential but it is still trying to. That's a good way to ruin one. Yes, sugery sucks. But at this point you really don't have an option unless you just want a pasture ornament. Sorry to be blunt.
Ditto.
To me it would not be fair to the horse to continue to run it with the chips.
I'd spend the money and get the chips removed.
I've had it done---it was about $1600. But it was money well spent and the horse is going to be more comfortable because I had it done. |
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| cowgirl156 - 2014-11-25 8:36 PM Has anyone used Amy Jergens out of Gill, co before for surgery?
I haven't used her for chip surgery. She did surgery on my cryptocid mini pony though and I've used her for lameness. She has a very nice surgerical facility. She is very thorough and I can't complain about her prices. She's much more affordable than most. I've been pleased with the job she's done for me. |
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Location: 'Hawk Country | If surgery is an option, I would do it now. I have a friend who had a top rodeo mare with a chip. Refused to have surgery due to the cost. Kept running and winning with maintenance until it got so bad that she wouldn't run through it. She finally had the surgery, but it was too late. Too much damage and the mare will never run again. |
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Location: You never know where I will show up...... | cowgirl156 - 2014-11-26 11:59 AM Thanks guys. Looking into it. Anyone have recomendations for the midwest? Not using Brunk in Grand Island. Dr Mez at Sturgis Equine Center in South Dakota did mine. Surgery was done in July and by the end of September I was back on her. She was running 1D & 2D times by November/December again.
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cowgirl156 - 2014-11-26 11:59 AM Thanks guys. Looking into it. Anyone have recomendations for the midwest? Not using Brunk in Grand Island. Dr Mez at Sturgis Equine Center in South Dakota did mine. Surgery was done in July and by the end of September I was back on her. She was running 1D & 2D times by November/December again.
Great not to far from me. I'll send X-ray's Friday. Thanks Amy! |
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Location: Wonderful Wyoming | cowgirl156 - 2014-11-26 2:25 PM rockinas - 2014-11-26 2:02 PM cowgirl156 - 2014-11-26 11:59 AM Thanks guys. Looking into it. Anyone have recomendations for the midwest? Not using Brunk in Grand Island. Dr Mez at Sturgis Equine Center in South Dakota did mine. Surgery was done in July and by the end of September I was back on her. She was running 1D & 2D times by November/December again. Great not to far from me. I'll send X-ray's Friday. Thanks Amy!
He helped my stud out when he had an Impaction colic in May. Heck of a nice guy. I was impressed. That was my first time ever at that clinic. They are supposed to be the best in the area. |
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Location: You never know where I will show up...... | cowgirl156 - 2014-11-26 3:25 PM rockinas - 2014-11-26 2:02 PM cowgirl156 - 2014-11-26 11:59 AM Thanks guys. Looking into it. Anyone have recomendations for the midwest? Not using Brunk in Grand Island. Dr Mez at Sturgis Equine Center in South Dakota did mine. Surgery was done in July and by the end of September I was back on her. She was running 1D & 2D times by November/December again. Great not to far from me. I'll send X-ray's Friday. Thanks Amy!
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