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| After a pre purchase vet check, my 4 year old mares ultrasound showed an old strain on her hind right suspensory ligament..
(My vet is Outlaw Equine in Decatur, TX) This little mare never took a lame step at and the vet said he would of passed her if he wouldnt have done an ultrasound.. Its impossible to visably see theres anything wrong with her.
I decided to purchase the mare anyway, having a confident feeling about her. (Plus shes so nice) BUT TO THE REAL REASON IM HERE!
-Im thinking of buying BOT leg wraps just for that extra maintenance (even though the mare is sound) Also want to buy the iconoclast boots for when i run her. Any opinions? Ive never used either products and they are both expensive. Any similar success stories? Thx in advance.
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| Shorty015655 - 2015-01-07 9:14 PM
After a pre purchase vet check, my 4 year old mares ultrasound showed an old strain on her hind right suspensory ligament..
(My vet is Outlaw Equine in Decatur, TX) This little mare never took a lame step at and the vet said he would of past her if he wouldnt have done an ultrasound.. Its impossible to visably see theres anything wrong with her.
I decided to purchase the mare anyway, having a confident feeling about her. (Plus shes so nice) BUT TO THE REAL REASON IM HERE!
-Im thinking of buying BOT leg wraps just for that extra maintenance (even though the mare is sound) Also want to buy the iconoclast rehabilitation boots for when i run her. Any opinions? Ive never used either products and they are both expensive. Any similar success stories? Thx in advance.
I have a 6yo mare that injured her suspensory by smacking her cannon bone with her hoof causing swelling, putting pressure on the tendon. I tried the standing wraps, ice tight, cold hosing, stalling ect. She got about 50% better in 60 days. I was so sad because she never truly injured the tendon but was still off because of it after all of that therapy. Dumb butt me had the BOT quick wraps the entire time. I put the BOT quick wraps on all night for 30 days and put her in a 1/2 acre lot and 30 days later she was 100% sound. To this day she wears her BOT sheet and BOT quick wraps all night, every night. I believe 100% in them for tendons now. That's all I have used them for thus far. |
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 It's not my fault I'm perfect
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Location: Where the long tails flow, ND | on the Iconoclast rehab boots, you are not to run in them. They are for rehab only. The support boots are for running etc..
I would also check out PHT, you would get great benefits from any of their lines also (PHT, CuHorse, MagnaCu) without creating heat. |
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| RoaniePonie11 - 2015-01-07 8:20 PM Shorty015655 - 2015-01-07 9:14 PM After a pre purchase vet check, my 4 year old mares ultrasound showed an old strain on her hind right suspensory ligament.. (My vet is Outlaw Equine in Decatur, TX) This little mare never took a lame step at and the vet said he would of past her if he wouldnt have done an ultrasound.. Its impossible to visably see theres anything wrong with her. I decided to purchase the mare anyway, having a confident feeling about her. (Plus shes so nice) BUT TO THE REAL REASON IM HERE! -Im thinking of buying BOT leg wraps just for that extra maintenance (even though the mare is sound) Also want to buy the iconoclast rehabilitation boots for when i run her. Any opinions? Ive never used either products and they are both expensive. Any similar success stories? Thx in advance. I have a 6yo mare that injured her suspensory by smacking her cannon bone with her hoof causing swelling, putting pressure on the tendon. I tried the standing wraps, ice tight, cold hosing, stalling ect. She got about 50% better in 60 days. I was so sad because she never truly injured the tendon but was still off because of it after all of that therapy. Dumb butt me had the BOT quick wraps the entire time. I put the BOT quick wraps on all night for 30 days and put her in a 1/2 acre lot and 30 days later she was 100% sound. To this day she wears her BOT sheet and BOT quick wraps all night, every night. I believe 100% in them for tendons now. That's all I have used them for thus far.
Do you ever wonder that maybe 30 days off with nothing would have healed her anyway? Just curious- because most acute injuries will heal themselves without intervention with just stall rest for 30 days. |
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| The ultra oz would be great also. I use it every night. You just put it on and you don't have to stay with them. They have a rental so you can see if you want to buy. If your interested I give you the reps number I use. She is very helpful and knowledgable. |
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| My gelding had a 40% tear in his right hind suspensory. Out a year but came back 100%. My vet said to have a long slow warm up- lots of walking and trotting and use ice boots after every run. I also will use the BOT wraps and PHT hock magnets on him before a run. |
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Location: Bandera, TX | Interesting post - I'm also babying a suspensory injury right now. I wish I could use my BOT Quick Wraps, but I can't get this stupid horse used to anything around her hind legs.... All she does is stomp her foot and kick - obviously not what we need right now...
I rub Runners Relief on it twice a day.... |
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Location: 100 miles from Nowhere, AR | They will heal on their own, but it takes longer if you don't do anything for inflammation. I really like what the increased circulation and compression from using the BOT products does for inflammation. Much easier than an endless cycle of sweat, hosing, and poultice. |
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Location: Wonderful Wyoming | GoMistyGo - 2015-01-08 7:28 AM Interesting post - I'm also babying a suspensory injury right now. I wish I could use my BOT Quick Wraps, but I can't get this stupid horse used to anything around her hind legs.... All she does is stomp her foot and kick - obviously not what we need right now...
I rub Runners Relief on it twice a day....
My old barrel horse is like that. The only thing he ever tolerated was PHT 3 in 1's that I put on his hock. He actually pulled a muscle in college when I was told by everyone that he NEEDED hind leg support, so I wrapped him and he let a couple good stomps fly and was out about a month. Some just hate hind leg boots. |
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| Definitely BOT and (when warm) do cold water therapy after work outs. Take swelling down and many horses seem to enjoy it. Just like an ice bath for athletes after a workout! (Trust me it helps wonders on a human body). Iconoclast Rehab boots are for just that rehab. Meaning when they are on stall rest and you take them out for a walk for the extra support. We run all our horses in the regular iconoclast boots and feel they work great!! Suspensory injuries will usually heal on their own.. Just takes FOREVER!
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Location: Oklahoma | GoMistyGo - 2015-01-08 8:28 AM
Interesting post - I'm also babying a suspensory injury right now. I wish I could use my BOT Quick Wraps, but I can't get this stupid horse used to anything around her hind legs.... All she does is stomp her foot and kick - obviously not what we need right now...
I rub Runners Relief on it twice a day....
I really hate that for you! My gelding didn't like hind boots on when I worked/ran him so I went without....never again!! He's just going to have to deal with hind Iconclasts. When we first found his injury I tried to ice boots and he wouldn't even stand still long enough to Velcro it on. I started using the runners relief and he learned to accept that. Then once we started BOTing he moved around, but he's to the point where I would swear on my life that he loves hearing the sound of that Velcro coming undone.... He literally lets it all hang out and stands still for me to get all four boots on! He's a different horse!
Are you guys picky about what ground you will now run on? Are sandy pens a definite no? I have a friend that's wanting me to go to the Josey reunion with her, but I'm afaid the ground might not be favorable to my gelding. He's brusised one of his front right suspensories before (had 8 months off) and now had inflammation in his hind end (off for 4 months and still counting with his recent EPM diagnosis). Just don't want to hinder him in any way! |
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Texas Taco
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Location: Bandera, TX | Longneck - 2015-01-08 9:46 AM GoMistyGo - 2015-01-08 8:28 AM Interesting post - I'm also babying a suspensory injury right now. I wish I could use my BOT Quick Wraps, but I can't get this stupid horse used to anything around her hind legs.... All she does is stomp her foot and kick - obviously not what we need right now...
I rub Runners Relief on it twice a day.... I really hate that for you! My gelding didn't like hind boots on when I worked/ran him so I went without....never again!! He's just going to have to deal with hind Iconclasts. When we first found his injury I tried to ice boots and he wouldn't even stand still long enough to Velcro it on. I started using the runners relief and he learned to accept that. Then once we started BOTing he moved around, but he's to the point where I would swear on my life that he loves hearing the sound of that Velcro coming undone.... He literally lets it all hang out and stands still for me to get all four boots on! He's a different horse! Are you guys picky about what ground you will now run on? Are sandy pens a definite no? I have a friend that's wanting me to go to the Josey reunion with her, but I'm afaid the ground might not be favorable to my gelding. He's brusised one of his front right suspensories before (had 8 months off ) and now had inflammation in his hind end (off for 4 months and still counting with his recent EPM diagnosis ). Just don't want to hinder him in any way!
I'm glad your gelding figured it out. My mare is getting better about the BOTs as long as I don't leave them on too long.... If she will ever be sound again to race she will have to get used to hind boots - like it or not. She had EPM too as well as some other stuff. Been off since April of last year.... |
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Location: N Texas | SmokinGirlie - 2015-01-07 9:38 PM
on the Iconoclast rehab boots, you are not to run in them. They are for rehab only. The support boots are for running etc..
I would also check out PHT, you would get great benefits from any of their lines also (PHT, CuHorse, MagnaCu) without creating heat.
Ditto about the rehab boots--use the regular boots for actual riding. The rehab boots are for stall rest/hand walking only. They have an orthopedic wedge that can move out of place with exercise and defeat the purpose of the boot.
If you get the BOT quick wraps (I have a pair and LOVE them), I would put them on before a run to get her legs warmed up, then do lots of trotting to get her good and warmed up before a run. Lots of trotting and riding on firm ground will help keep her tendons strong. |
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Location: Piedmont, OK | I had one tear a suspensory inside and outside by the fetlock plus multiple small tears. The vet said at least a year off. I did dmso furazone sweats every night, rinsed it off every morning and put bot quick wraps on all day. Gave him cissus quadrangularis in his feed twice a day. He was completely sound for his vet check at 8 months and ready togo back to work. The vet was amazed. He could not find any thing on the ultrasound and looked really hard. He told me before he did it he didn't think he would be sound. |
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Rad Dork
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Location: Oklahoma | GoMistyGo - 2015-01-08 11:08 AM Longneck - 2015-01-08 9:46 AM GoMistyGo - 2015-01-08 8:28 AM Interesting post - I'm also babying a suspensory injury right now. I wish I could use my BOT Quick Wraps, but I can't get this stupid horse used to anything around her hind legs.... All she does is stomp her foot and kick - obviously not what we need right now...
I rub Runners Relief on it twice a day.... I really hate that for you! My gelding didn't like hind boots on when I worked/ran him so I went without....never again!! He's just going to have to deal with hind Iconclasts. When we first found his injury I tried to ice boots and he wouldn't even stand still long enough to Velcro it on. I started using the runners relief and he learned to accept that. Then once we started BOTing he moved around, but he's to the point where I would swear on my life that he loves hearing the sound of that Velcro coming undone.... He literally lets it all hang out and stands still for me to get all four boots on! He's a different horse! Are you guys picky about what ground you will now run on? Are sandy pens a definite no? I have a friend that's wanting me to go to the Josey reunion with her, but I'm afaid the ground might not be favorable to my gelding. He's brusised one of his front right suspensories before (had 8 months off ) and now had inflammation in his hind end (off for 4 months and still counting with his recent EPM diagnosis ). Just don't want to hinder him in any way!
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| Turned mine out for 8 months, studied, bought ALL BOT equine products, bought ice boots, and bought full set of Iconoclast Boots (6). I use BOT products hauling to events and while at events, run in Iconoclast boots, and ice all 4 legs for 20 to 30 minutes immediately after I run. Four months later my horse is still sound.
I also sleep in a BOT shirt and neck wrap. I've had shoulder and neck surgery. It is great therapy. |
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Location: Randolph, Utah | I have a horse that strained his suspensory this fall, the vet told me BOT wasn't a bad idea to use.
I plan on using the BOT wraps and buying a set of iconoclast to use when I'm running him. Can't see where either would hurt. |
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| Would the BOT Quick Wraps help a horse with a deep digital flexor tendon injury? I'm not sure if the injury is too low for the quick wraps. I have some of the bell boots for him, he isn't quite sound enough to start rehabbing, but once he is I want to have everything possible to keep him sound... already bought him some Iconoclasts.... |
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