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HINDGUT ulcers.... we have a diagnosis

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RoaniePonie11
Reg. Jan 2011
Posted 2015-01-12 7:53 PM
Subject: HINDGUT ulcers.... we have a diagnosis


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Please tell me your experience with hindgut ulcers. Possible treatment, symptoms, how you diagnosed it ect.

I used the blood fecal test and my horse tested for hindgut ulcers. Not gastric ulcers. Doing my homework on where to go from here.

Thanks
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Nevertooold
Reg. Oct 2003
Posted 2015-01-12 7:58 PM
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My FWF Gelding had them and I put him on THE GastroPlus after sending a full blood chem panel to Bob. He had every ulcer symptom there was but scoped clean. 
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Fairweather
Reg. Jan 2004
Posted 2015-01-12 8:11 PM
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I had to pull mine off of ALL beet pulp - even the non-molassas kind, no molassas, no joint supplements --- you'll be hard pressed to find a premix feed that doesn't have beet pulp or molassas. (Total Equine doesn't

At the time, they didn't have a test for it but he was a classic case and had all the symptoms. We scoped and he was clear; Stomach tap was clear, fecal clear but RBC & WBC were bottomed out. Vets didn't have an answer and their protocols wouldn't keep him on his feed. So, I did my own research and I let his appetite tell me what was working. 

I had to feed straight grains and a non-molassas base supplement or else he'd go off of his feed. I fed alfalfa cubes and grass hay. Horsepower Herbs' Gut Proof helped tremendously and I only fed it for a while.

Regular gastic ulcer supplements did not make a difference -- I know now it was because they work in the stomach and not the gut. I also fed flax -- it helps to promote natural mucous which protects the lining in the gut. 

 
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RoaniePonie11
Reg. Jan 2011
Posted 2015-01-12 8:15 PM
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thank you! I will have to add these to my list to look into. Y'all keep it coming. I want to do as much homework as possible. I'm praying this is my answer to her symptoms.
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hlynn
Reg. Dec 2011
Posted 2015-01-12 8:39 PM
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EquiShure!! It was designed specifically as a hind gut buffer for horses with Subclinical acidosis. And the KER website has a lot of good articles on studies they have done on subclinical acidosis. There's a good bit of info out there just like there is for EGUS. Same rules apply.

All the hay you can give them. All the turnout you can give them. Low starch/high fat feed.

I would start Forco too if you don't already use it. Lots of goodies for the entire digestive system in Forco. It never hurts to add it and it's pretty affordable compared to other things.
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livinonlove&horses
Reg. Jun 2008
Posted 2015-01-12 8:46 PM
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 I have heard Forco and Succeed for hindgut but have never had them in any of mine
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RoaniePonie11
Reg. Jan 2011
Posted 2015-01-12 8:47 PM
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livinonlove&horses - 2015-01-12 8:46 PM

Β I have heard Forco and Succeed for hindgut but have never had them in any of mine

I'm currently reading up on succeed since that's the test I used to diagnose her. It looks interesting but costly. $100/ month maintenance, but I guess if it fixes her, its worth it.
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livinonlove&horses
Reg. Jun 2008
Posted 2015-01-12 9:17 PM
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 Yes expensive. I wonder if u treated her with succeed if you could maintain with Forco?
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cheryl makofka
Reg. Jan 2011
Posted 2015-01-12 9:22 PM
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livinonlove&horses - 2015-01-12 9:17 PM

Β Yes expensive. I wonder if u treated her with succeed if you could maintain with Forco?

Once the horse no longer has ulcers after modifying their program, the horse shouldn't need to be put on a preventative/maintenance program.

I would be looking at eliminating the cause of the hind gut ulcers, I would be looking in depth to the supplements the horse is on, and what I can do to reduce stress, as well as switching to a high fat low NSC diet
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CJE
Reg. Mar 2005
Posted 2015-01-13 9:43 AM
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RoaniePonie11 - 2015-01-11 8:53 PM Please tell me your experience with hindgut ulcers. Possible treatment, symptoms, how you diagnosed it ect. I used the blood fecal test and my horse tested for hindgut ulcers. Not gastric ulcers. Doing my homework on where to go from here. Thanks

How much did the test cost and did you have to go through a vet to order?
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ridejg
Reg. Jan 2009
Posted 2015-01-13 9:57 AM
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I would suggest Forco...good info on their website, and it is affordable.
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RoaniePonie11
Reg. Jan 2011
Posted 2015-01-13 4:00 PM
Subject: RE: HINDGUT ulcers.... we have a diagnosis


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CJE - 2015-01-13 9:43 AM

RoaniePonie11 - 2015-01-11 8:53 PM Please tell me your experience with hindgut ulcers. Possible treatment, symptoms, how you diagnosed it ect. I used the blood fecal test and my horse tested for hindgut ulcers. Not gastric ulcers. Doing my homework on where to go from here. Thanks

How much did the test cost and did you have to go through a vet to order?

Around $30, yes I had to go through a vet. It's easy though. You take them a sample of poop that is only a few hours old.
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Bucky
Reg. Nov 2007
Posted 2015-01-13 7:23 PM
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Also use equishure and its a awesome product for hindgut! Ker.com check it out.
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CJE
Reg. Mar 2005
Posted 2015-01-13 7:42 PM
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RoaniePonie11 - 2015-01-12 5:00 PM

CJE - 2015-01-13 9:43 AM

RoaniePonie11 - 2015-01-11 8:53 PM Please tell me your experience with hindgut ulcers. Possible treatment, symptoms, how you diagnosed it ect. I used the blood fecal test and my horse tested for hindgut ulcers. Not gastric ulcers. Doing my homework on where to go from here. Thanks

How much did the test cost and did you have to go through a vet to order?

Around $30, yes I had to go through a vet. It's easy though. You take them a sample of poop that is only a few hours old.

Thanks I am going to ask my vet about it!
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livexlovexrodeo
Reg. Oct 2009
Posted 2015-01-13 8:04 PM
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I also use EquiShure. My horse was diagnosed by the vet using the stool sample. I was already pretty sure thats what it was.
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