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foundation horse
Reg. Aug 2004
Posted 2015-01-31 6:37 AM
Subject: RE: Purchasing New Truck - Need Help


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coastal rider - 2015-01-30 11:40 AM I just bought a chev silverado 3/4 ton gas because I was told a diesel used for short drives say less than 1/2 hour to and from work or  around town just never warms up and then the injectors start to get clogged because the truck never really gets hot enough to run properly.  Service costs then get really costly because it is a diesel anyways and it is just more cost over all.



Unless you do some good long distance highway driving most days the gas is better.

The diesel will hav emore torque for towing in mountains and get better gas mileage when used for longer hauls but it may actually be quite costly if you do shorter hauls in between weekend trips.



The diesel engine is also quite  a bit heavier so it adds a lot more weight to the front end so there is more wear and tear on the front end of the truck. Maintenance costs again go up.  Tire wear up front may increase as well.



It seems the oil companies will keep the price of diesel high as the semi transport guys are stuck and have to pay the price so even though a diesel may get 22 -24 miles per gallon and my gas truck only 15-16 for my 6 liter engine, the fuel is not really much cheaper.


A diesel is not good for short hauls and in fact it hurts them. Maintenance costs and oil changes etc are very high. My friends with later model diesels say they wish they had bought gas unless towing big time longer hauls.



I just went through this and this is how I decided on a gas truck. A judgement call of course .  Good luck. PS really horse trade on price as they are anxious to sell trucks now with the downturn in the oil patch etc.  Be ruthless!!!!



Cheers,

Coastal Rider

I am currently paying $2.29 (and anticipate lower) per gallon diesel in my area of North Texas. Down from the avg of $3.49-3.59 so I would have to say your highlighted statement is wrong.

Do you understand the idea of basic economics i.e. Supply and demand? Or the concept of competition? i.e. Lower the price for more volume sales?

 

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Palopony
Reg. Feb 2006
Posted 2015-01-31 1:05 PM
Subject: RE: Purchasing New Truck - Need Help


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We bought a 2014 Ram 3500, Laramie a year ago and we are so happy with it, has 35,000 miles my husband drives it daily.  We have never plugged it in also never plugged in the 2004 it replaced.  I have no problem with DEF, I don't miss trying to get the exhaust off the truck at all.  We expected the mileage to be worst than the 04, not true actually better.  The ride and the interior is so much better, they have come a long way in 10 years.

As for driving a short while I can't imagine it's great for them but I drove the 04  7 miles daily the first 3 years and it didn't kill it..  When we traded had almost 300,000 miles on it.  I don't recall it being that cold or letting it warm it too long.  However the heated steering wheel is the bomb and I never knew I would love it like I do.
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lexyy12
Reg. Apr 2010
Posted 2015-01-31 1:27 PM
Subject: RE: Purchasing New Truck - Need Help



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We have a 2001 dodge cummins and man...do I LOVE IT!!!

I've always been a chevy girl so I was skeptical when my fiancΓ© wanted to buy this dodge but it's the best pulling truck I've ever driven. It has a lot of power. Can't even tell were pulling my 2 horse bp or my 4 horse gooseneck with living quarters.
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runningk
Reg. Jan 2005
Posted 2015-01-31 8:23 PM
Subject: RE: Purchasing New Truck - Need Help


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foundation horse - 2015-01-31 6:37 AM
coastal rider - 2015-01-30 11:40 AM I just bought a chev silverado 3/4 ton gas because I was told a diesel used for short drives say less than 1/2 hour to and from work or  around town just never warms up and then the injectors start to get clogged because the truck never really gets hot enough to run properly.  Service costs then get really costly because it is a diesel anyways and it is just more cost over all.







Unless you do some good long distance highway driving most days the gas is better.



The diesel will hav emore torque for towing in mountains and get better gas mileage when used for longer hauls but it may actually be quite costly if you do shorter hauls in between weekend trips.







The diesel engine is also quite  a bit heavier so it adds a lot more weight to the front end so there is more wear and tear on the front end of the truck. Maintenance costs again go up.  Tire wear up front may increase as well.







It seems the oil companies will keep the price of diesel high as the semi transport guys are stuck and have to pay the price so even though a diesel may get 22 -24 miles per gallon and my gas truck only 15-16 for my 6 liter engine, the fuel is not really much cheaper.




A diesel is not good for short hauls and in fact it hurts them. Maintenance costs and oil changes etc are very high. My friends with later model diesels say they wish they had bought gas unless towing big time longer hauls.







I just went through this and this is how I decided on a gas truck. A judgement call of course .  Good luck. PS really horse trade on price as they are anxious to sell trucks now with the downturn in the oil patch etc.  Be ruthless!!!!







Cheers,



Coastal Rider


I am currently paying $2.29 (and anticipate lower) per gallon diesel in my area of North Texas. Down from the avg of $3.49-3.59 so I would have to say your highlighted statement is wrong.



Do you understand the idea of basic economics i.e. Supply and demand? Or the concept of competition? i.e. Lower the price for more volume sales?


 

I have a 2002 F-250, 7.3L diesel.  245,000 miles.  Was my daily driver for 7 years.  20 miles one way to work.  Have NEVER
replaced an injector in this.  Only routine maintenance and an alternator.  And batteries on occasion.  Just normal stuff.
I did finally buy a small 4 wheeler to drive only to take some miles off this truck since I intend to keep it until it falls into a million pieces. 
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foundation horse
Reg. Aug 2004
Posted 2015-01-31 9:43 PM
Subject: RE: Purchasing New Truck - Need Help


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runningk - 2015-01-31 8:23 PM
foundation horse - 2015-01-31 6:37 AM
coastal rider - 2015-01-30 11:40 AM I just bought a chev silverado 3/4 ton gas because I was told a diesel used for short drives say less than 1/2 hour to and from work or  around town just never warms up and then the injectors start to get clogged because the truck never really gets hot enough to run properly.  Service costs then get really costly because it is a diesel anyways and it is just more cost over all.







Unless you do some good long distance highway driving most days the gas is better.



The diesel will hav emore torque for towing in mountains and get better gas mileage when used for longer hauls but it may actually be quite costly if you do shorter hauls in between weekend trips.







The diesel engine is also quite  a bit heavier so it adds a lot more weight to the front end so there is more wear and tear on the front end of the truck. Maintenance costs again go up.  Tire wear up front may increase as well.







It seems the oil companies will keep the price of diesel high as the semi transport guys are stuck and have to pay the price so even though a diesel may get 22 -24 miles per gallon and my gas truck only 15-16 for my 6 liter engine, the fuel is not really much cheaper.




A diesel is not good for short hauls and in fact it hurts them. Maintenance costs and oil changes etc are very high. My friends with later model diesels say they wish they had bought gas unless towing big time longer hauls.







I just went through this and this is how I decided on a gas truck. A judgement call of course .  Good luck. PS really horse trade on price as they are anxious to sell trucks now with the downturn in the oil patch etc.  Be ruthless!!!!







Cheers,



Coastal Rider


I am currently paying $2.29 (and anticipate lower) per gallon diesel in my area of North Texas. Down from the avg of $3.49-3.59 so I would have to say your highlighted statement is wrong.



Do you understand the idea of basic economics i.e. Supply and demand? Or the concept of competition? i.e. Lower the price for more volume sales?


 
I have a 2002 F-250, 7.3L diesel.  245,000 miles.  Was my daily driver for 7 years.  20 miles one way to work.  Have NEVER

replaced an injector in this.  Only routine maintenance and an alternator.  And batteries on occasion.  Just normal stuff.

I did finally buy a small 4 wheeler to drive only to take some miles off this truck since I intend to keep it until it falls into a million pieces. 

My current Daily Driver is an 01 Excursion Powerstroke w/ 177 or so k miles. I bought it w/ 89k. I also have a 96 F250 CC Powerstroke w/ 326k. I WILL NOT stop driving Powerstrokes as long as I can get parts for em. And I can! Cause 7.3 Powerstroke is identical to the International IH466 w/ a Powerstoke Cam.

 
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runningk
Reg. Jan 2005
Posted 2015-01-31 11:25 PM
Subject: RE: Purchasing New Truck - Need Help


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True that.  And since my husband is an International die hard, we will never be without. 
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ShilabarShock
Reg. Jan 2011
Posted 2015-02-01 11:16 PM
Subject: RE: Purchasing New Truck - Need Help



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I have a 2015 f-250 diesel 6.7L king ranch Ed. and I absolutely love it! Smooth ride and pulls both my bumper pull and gooseneck easy.
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