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South TX Can Chaser
Reg. Jun 2005
Posted 2015-02-23 1:54 PM
Subject: Prospective Barrel Horse Buyers/ Private Treaty Sales


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I recenlty sold a well bred barrel horse on this website. The horse sold within 7 days of  the ad going up on Barrel Horse World!  I put this horse as a Private Treaty Sale, and I got a ton of phone calls, emails, and text messages in the first 48 hours due to the quality of said individual horse. We sold this horse for the asking price with no problem. I want to let you prospective buyers out there Know Sellers don't appreciate your opinion or continuous emails griping about what the price is on the horse! If you cannot afford to go try the horse for the price the owner is asking, then please have enough respect for people, to not go out and waste their time. I have found that next time we will just put up the Price and Pre-screen all people wanting to come out to ride the horse. On this particular horse we had multiple Videos and X-rays's readily available for comparison during any type of Vet Check!
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hoofs_in_motion
Reg. Apr 2011
Posted 2015-02-23 2:16 PM
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soooooo because I email someone regarding their horse about asking price....I'm wasting their time if I can't afford said horse after price has been said?  
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babiemox
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Posted 2015-02-23 2:29 PM
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hoofs_in_motion - 2015-02-23 1:16 PM soooooo because I email someone regarding their horse about asking price....I'm wasting their time if I can't afford said horse after price has been said?  

I read it as, once she told them the price, they kept emailing her about how they didn't feel the price was right. 
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hoofs_in_motion
Reg. Apr 2011
Posted 2015-02-23 2:30 PM
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hoofs_in_motion - 2015-02-23 1:16 PM soooooo because I email someone regarding their horse about asking price....I'm wasting their time if I can't afford said horse after price has been said?  
I read it as, once she told them the price, they kept emailing her about how they didn't feel the price was right. 

gotcha....I had that happen to me. I told the gal off, and she never emailed me again LOL 
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South TX Can Chaser
Reg. Jun 2005
Posted 2015-02-23 2:31 PM
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 The point Was Once You Recieve the Price by Email or Text, You don't need to continue to bug the Seller, Either you can afford to go try the horse at that price or You Cannot!
Don't Waste their time by setting up a time to ride the horse If You Don't have The Funds in the First Place to buy the horse ! It is Extremely Disrespectul of their Time!

 
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wyoming barrel racer
Reg. Apr 2006
Posted 2015-02-23 2:36 PM
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I hate reading posts about sellers complaining about buyers. Yes it was tacky that they continued to email, but if you are in the horse business long enough, you realize it is much more professional to answer them kindly (short and to the point-thank you for your interest, we have several prospective buyers interested in said horse) and move on. Complaining about it on a public forum will not make these people stop but it does look bad as well. 
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linds
Reg. Feb 2005
Posted 2015-02-23 2:46 PM
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South TX Can Chaser - 2015-02-23 2:31 PM  The point Was Once You Recieve the Price by Email or Text, You don't need to continue to bug the Seller, Either you can afford to go try the horse at that price or You Cannot!

Don't Waste their time by setting up a time to ride the horse If You Don't have The Funds in the First Place to buy the horse ! It is Extremely Disrespectul of their Time!


 

This happens with horses of any value.  I hauled a horse 3hrs specifically to let someone ride her.  She said she liked her, but had to sell her horse first.  She would let me know when HER horse sold.  ugh!
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BamaCanChaser
Reg. Nov 2012
Posted 2015-02-23 3:01 PM
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linds - 2015-02-23 2:46 PM

South TX Can Chaser - 2015-02-23 2:31 PM Β The point Was Once You Recieve the Price by Email or Text, You don't need to continue to bug the Seller, Either you can afford to go try the horse at that price or You Cannot!

Don't Waste their time by setting up a time to ride the horse If You Don't have The Funds in the First Place to buy the horse ! It is Extremely Disrespectul of their Time!


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This happens with horses of any value. Β I hauled a horse 3hrs specifically to let someone ride her. Β She said she liked her, but had to sell her horse first. Β She would let me know when HER horse sold. Β ugh!

I would never haul a horse 3 hours away to let someone "try" it. Serious buyers will come to you. They have already budgeted travel expense for trying horses when they decide they are ready to purchase.
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linds
Reg. Feb 2005
Posted 2015-02-23 3:06 PM
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BamaCanChaser - 2015-02-23 3:01 PM
linds - 2015-02-23 2:46 PM
South TX Can Chaser - 2015-02-23 2:31 PM  The point Was Once You Recieve the Price by Email or Text, You don't need to continue to bug the Seller, Either you can afford to go try the horse at that price or You Cannot!

Don't Waste their time by setting up a time to ride the horse If You Don't have The Funds in the First Place to buy the horse ! It is Extremely Disrespectul of their Time!


 
This happens with horses of any value.  I hauled a horse 3hrs specifically to let someone ride her.  She said she liked her, but had to sell her horse first.  She would let me know when HER horse sold.  ugh!
I would never haul a horse 3 hours away to let someone "try" it. Serious buyers will come to you. They have already budgeted travel expense for trying horses when they decide they are ready to purchase.

Ya, that was the last time I played 'nice, accommodating' seller.
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Cindy Hamilton
Reg. Sep 2003
Posted 2015-02-23 3:41 PM
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I've been selling Platinum trailers for more than 11 years now, and they cost a whole lot more than most barrel horses on here.....I can tell you that there are dysfunctional people in all walks of life, and when you sell high ticket items, it doesn't matter if you are selling a horse, a house, a trailer, truck, boat, whatever, you have to know you are going to talk with these types of people and just deal with it as part of doing business......I just suck it up and look at it for what it is, people who don't have anything better to do, or people who need to vent their anger on you because you have something nice that they can't afford.....

BUT.....the lesson here is that you NEVER KNOW that in the future, those same people who you think wasted your time a few years ago will now have the money to come back and buy something from you if they remember how nice you treated them, even though they were disrespectful at the time....so I always treat everyone with the same respect no matter what they are spending, even if they gripe me out about high prices on something they can't afford (I get this a lot!!!)....even tire kickers eventually buy something...every inquiry on something you sell is worth a respectful answer....

OH...one more thing...be glad you aren't taking credit apps every day to get loans on your horses....then you really get griped out big time when they don't qualify with a 500 credit score (or worse)....it's all a part of doing business, and at least they are looking at my stuff, so I don't mind it at all....did I say all this right?? 

 
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South TX Can Chaser
Reg. Jun 2005
Posted 2015-02-23 3:42 PM
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If I put a horse online for Sale I don't Feel That Insulting the Horse or The Price of the Said horse is an acceptable business Practice whether in an email or a TEXT!  I thought my post might educate the masses of ignorant people out there, that don't know anything about the horse market! I have been selling horses for only about 25 years and I still find the Rudeness of People really Amazing. Most of ours are sold private treaty directly off of our ranch here in Texas! However every two or three years we do put a horse online! The last time I checked this is still a free country!
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svincent
Reg. Feb 2012
Posted 2015-02-23 4:09 PM
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Cindy Hamilton - 2015-02-23 3:41 PM

I've been selling Platinum trailers for more than 11 years now, and they cost a whole lot more than most barrel horses on here.....I can tell you that there are dysfunctional people in all walks of life, and when you sell high ticket items, it doesn't matter if you are selling a horse, a house, a trailer, truck, boat, whatever, you have to know you are going to talk with these types of people and just deal with it as part of doing business......I just suck it up and look at it for what it is, people who don't have anything better to do, or people who need to vent their anger on you because you have something nice that they can't afford.....

BUT.....the lesson here is that you NEVER KNOW that in the future, those same people who you think wasted your time a few years ago will now have the money to come back and buy something from you if they remember how nice you treated them, even though they were disrespectful at the time....so I always treat everyone with the same respect no matter what they are spending, even if they gripe me out about high prices on something they can't afford (I get this a lot!!!)....even tire kickers eventually buy something...every inquiry on something you sell is worth a respectful answer....

OH...one more thing...be glad you aren't taking credit apps every day to get loans on your horses....then you really get griped out big time when they don't qualify with a 500 credit score (or worse)....it's all a part of doing business, and at least they are looking at my stuff, so I don't mind it at all....did I say all this right??Β 

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That's no joke!

Sellers also shouldn't judge a prospective buyer's financial capabilities based on their appearance. That is MY personal irritation.

A family friend used to work at an auto group in CA that sold VERY high end cars (RR, Bentley, AM, etc.), one day a kid came into the dealership and our family friend pushed him off onto one of the newer salesmen. That "kid" was one of the founders of a tech startup and bought three Bentleys right then and there. He had been disregarded because he was wearing shorts, flip flops, and a t-shirt. Ouch.

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wyoming barrel racer
Reg. Apr 2006
Posted 2015-02-23 4:13 PM
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South TX Can Chaser - 2015-02-23 2:42 PM If I put a horse online for Sale I don't Feel That Insulting the Horse or The Price of the Said horse is an acceptable business Practice whether in an email or a TEXT!  I thought my post might educate the masses of ignorant people out there, that don't know anything about the horse market! I have been selling horses for only about 25 years and I still find the Rudeness of People really Amazing. Most of ours are sold private treaty directly off of our ranch here in Texas! However every two or three years we do put a horse online! The last time I checked this is still a free country!

It is not an acceptable business practice, but it is the "ignorant you are trying to eductate". Isn't that kind of an oxymoron? Trying to lighten the mood here.  It is a free country, but being on this board for quite a few years now, the bashing of sellers and buyers does get kind of old. Most here have experienced it to a degree and the more you ask for a horse, the more strange people you are going to get...well that might not be true. I have had some real winners when selling a cheap horse due to injury type of thing. I have only been in the business 15 yrs, but have had all kinds of people call and email. I try to be polite because as someone else said, they may actually show up with the money next time. Good luck with future sales
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wyoming barrel racer
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Posted 2015-02-23 4:17 PM
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svincent - 2015-02-23 3:09 PM
Cindy Hamilton - 2015-02-23 3:41 PM I've been selling Platinum trailers for more than 11 years now, and they cost a whole lot more than most barrel horses on here.....I can tell you that there are dysfunctional people in all walks of life, and when you sell high ticket items, it doesn't matter if you are selling a horse, a house, a trailer, truck, boat, whatever, you have to know you are going to talk with these types of people and just deal with it as part of doing business......I just suck it up and look at it for what it is, people who don't have anything better to do, or people who need to vent their anger on you because you have something nice that they can't afford.....



BUT.....the lesson here is that you NEVER KNOW that in the future, those same people who you think wasted your time a few years ago will now have the money to come back and buy something from you if they remember how nice you treated them, even though they were disrespectful at the time....so I always treat everyone with the same respect no matter what they are spending, even if they gripe me out about high prices on something they can't afford (I get this a lot!!!)....even tire kickers eventually buy something...every inquiry on something you sell is worth a respectful answer....



OH...one more thing...be glad you aren't taking credit apps every day to get loans on your horses....then you really get griped out big time when they don't qualify with a 500 credit score (or worse)....it's all a part of doing business, and at least they are looking at my stuff, so I don't mind it at all....did I say all this right?? 


 
That's no joke! Sellers also shouldn't judge a prospective buyer's financial capabilities based on their appearance. That is MY personal irritation. A family friend used to work at an auto group in CA that sold VERY high end cars (RR, Bentley, AM, etc.), one day a kid came into the dealership and our family friend pushed him off onto one of the newer salesmen. That "kid" was one of the founders of a tech startup and bought three Bentleys right then and there. He had been disregarded because he was wearing shorts, flip flops, and a t-shirt. Ouch.

Happened to us when we went to buy a son of Fire Water Flit. My husband and I showed up when we were about 22 yrs old. Got the tour of the farm and every colt we inquired about, we were not taken serious or even given a price. We had cash in hand and I guarantee it was enough to buy one of the yearlings we were looking at. Some were client babies for sale, again, not even given a phone number. Huge disapointment, but you can't make someone sell you something. I hope to own one someday, but now that he is deceased it makes it a lot tougher. AI wasn't our thing back then or now, so that wasn't even an option to breed to him.
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svincent
Reg. Feb 2012
Posted 2015-02-23 4:22 PM
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wyoming barrel racer - 2015-02-23 4:17 PM

svincent - 2015-02-23 3:09 PM
Cindy Hamilton - 2015-02-23 3:41 PM I've been selling Platinum trailers for more than 11 years now, and they cost a whole lot more than most barrel horses on here.....I can tell you that there are dysfunctional people in all walks of life, and when you sell high ticket items, it doesn't matter if you are selling a horse, a house, a trailer, truck, boat, whatever, you have to know you are going to talk with these types of people and just deal with it as part of doing business......I just suck it up and look at it for what it is, people who don't have anything better to do, or people who need to vent their anger on you because you have something nice that they can't afford.....



BUT.....the lesson here is that you NEVER KNOW that in the future, those same people who you think wasted your time a few years ago will now have the money to come back and buy something from you if they remember how nice you treated them, even though they were disrespectful at the time....so I always treat everyone with the same respect no matter what they are spending, even if they gripe me out about high prices on something they can't afford (I get this a lot!!!)....even tire kickers eventually buy something...every inquiry on something you sell is worth a respectful answer....



OH...one more thing...be glad you aren't taking credit apps every day to get loans on your horses....then you really get griped out big time when they don't qualify with a 500 credit score (or worse)....it's all a part of doing business, and at least they are looking at my stuff, so I don't mind it at all....did I say all this right??Β 


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That's no joke! Sellers also shouldn't judge a prospective buyer's financial capabilities based on their appearance. That is MY personal irritation. A family friend used to work at an auto group in CA that sold VERY high end cars (RR, Bentley, AM, etc.), one day a kid came into the dealership and our family friend pushed him off onto one of the newer salesmen. That "kid" was one of the founders of a tech startup and bought three Bentleys right then and there. He had been disregarded because he was wearing shorts, flip flops, and a t-shirt. Ouch.

Happened to us when we went to buy a son of Fire Water Flit. My husband and I showed up when we were about 22 yrs old. Got the tour of the farm and every colt we inquired about, we were not taken serious or even given a price. We had cash in hand and I guarantee it was enough to buy one of the yearlings we were looking at. Some were client babies for sale, again, not even given a phone number. Huge disapointment, but you can't make someone sell you something. I hope to own one someday, but now that he is deceased it makes it a lot tougher. AI wasn't our thing back then or now, so that wasn't even an option to breed to him.

It happened to my husband and I personally just over Christmas time. We were down in CA visiting family in civilization and thought we'd take the opportunity to go test drive a couple cars since mine is approaching the trade-in time. We drove into the lot in my husband's truck (he logs, and his truck is DISGUSTING on the outside). We weren't given the time of day. We had to hunt a guy down to ask to see the SUV we wanted to look at, and he was nothing but irritated. Needless to say, we didn't buy a car from them - and won't when the time comes here in a month or two.
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Bibliafarm
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Posted 2015-02-23 4:35 PM
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I agree with everyones opinions because price wasnt UP there for them to decide if they can afford it or not prior to buying so be prepared to have some gripes...... .. but I also think if they tell you the price and its FIRM.. a person shouldnt constantly bash or complain or text or messege .. there is a fine line there.lol..maybe FIRM and maybe take potential buyers number and say if anything changes you will give them a call would be nicer..or show them otehr afforadable horses that suit them better...
as far as not having the $$ well you have to show the horse to them.... but not over and over again.. its part of selling  a horse but  it can be frustrating...and  after weeks of someone complaining that your horse isnt worth that and harasing you you do get tired of it.and possibly thats the story here i dunno though.. I wouldnt have a thread about it though.lol..
 

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