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 Sorry I don't have any advice
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Location: Sunnyland Florida |
In my opinion, a retraining process on the first is needed instead of drills. You say he goes from the back of the alley. Instead of going from the back of the alley, can you hold him up and just gallop to the first, then lope around the first barrel perfect and carry on? If so, ditch a few great runs and just enter him and do this. I've cured several this way. Just go whatever speed you can get a perfect first. Then, sneak a LITTLE bit of speed with each run. In no time, you'll be running hard again. When they go from the back of the alley, sometimes they tend to get 'flat' in the turn and don't gather. They can gather for the turn better when they're still gaining speed.
Another thing that works well (if not overdone) is lope in the alleyway, gallop toward the first a couple of strides, then stop him. Trot away, lope, gallop and stop again - about 3 times before you get to the first. That will build rate in them. However, you can't go right back to sending them from the back of the alley.
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 Balance Beam and more...
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Location: 31 lengths farms | Oops, been so long since I looked at it it is called a Fast Stop...Weaver Leather..
http://www.horse.com/item/weaver-fast-stop-browband-headstall/WQW10...
You can not be heavy handed with this or a be a person that doesn't release when the response it given!!! |
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Location: In the land of peanuts and cotton | When I bought him he was running in a Jim Warner hack. He was being risen by a man and they hack just wasn't enough for me to be able to control him so we started with O rings and moved our way up until we found one that worked great. Is there another type of hack that has more control to it? I won't use a chain nose because in my mind I think there cruel. I'm sure they're not but couldn't make me believe it. I don't look down on people that use them but I won't use it. |
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I don't think anyone by themselves should try this bit. You need to ride with someone who knows how to use these...most novice ppl really have no business using them because their hands are not good enough. |
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Badonkadonk
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Location: Mississippi | When I brought my current horse back from my mom's to start running she wouldn't rate any barrel and would hang on the bit thru every turn. I'm 5'2 and 130lbs and can't stand having to pull a horse around. I worked on one rein stops and then went digging in my team roper hubby's bits and found a long shank chain bit with a tight chain curb piece. This horse was already patterned to death and just needed to understand what she needed to do and I didn't have time to start over. I started out trotting up to the barrels asking her to stop and only getting in her mouth if I had to. Then I started loping up stopping and backing up. I only put that bit on her every other day for about 2 weeks and now it's no longer needed and she runs a near perfect pattern everytime. This was a quick fix since I needed her running ASAP. Now I exercise her and walk the pattern stopping and backing at her points to cool her out.I had a horse in the past that ran in a quick stop. She just ran like an out of control freight train but she won a lot for me in the quick stop. You have to have VERY calm hands for a quick stop and it isn't something I recommend but it is out there. You have to be able to immediately release once you get a response.Another thing to think about is are you cueing your horse in a run to rate and collect up for the turn? |
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Balance Beam and more...
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Location: 31 lengths farms | astreakinchic - 2015-03-20 7:27 AM
I don't think anyone by themselves should try this bit. You need to ride with someone who knows how to use these...most novice ppl really have no business using them because their hands are not good enough.
I agree...just giving her info on what worked for me and my mare with the same type issues. :-) |
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