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| gagrl - 2015-03-20 1:37 PM
cheryl makofka - 2015-03-20 1:37 PM gagrl - 2015-03-19 10:16 AM FLITASTIC - 2015-03-19 10:46 AM gagrl - 2015-03-19 6:41 AM $60 for the gallon size last 1 horse up to 2 months. Use coupon code   cockk   for 10% off and free shipping! I keep all my riding horses on this as a preventative and weight. Helps with the nervous nellies too.
 Ulser Shield  Ulser Shield begins to neutralize acid on contact.A mucosal protector, Magnesium and Calcium form a barrier over the mucosal lining. Calcium Carbonate reduces the acidity of the stomach and helps promote proper digestion and nutrient absorption. Polydimenthylsiloxane, an anti-gas, helps reduce trapped air in mucous, which may be associated with equine ulsers.If your horse displays poor appetite, mild to severe colic, poor condition, attitude changes and poor training performance, you may be seeing the early signs of an ulcer. Add Ulser Shield to your horses daily diet and early treatment may prevent the use of Gastro Guard. Ulser Shield is a marvelous maintenance for horses following a course of Gastro Guard.INGREDIENTS:Preservatives
Magnesium Oxide
Calcium Carbonate
Polydimethylsiloxane New Size!
Available by the quart ($20.00), half gallon ($35.00) or gallon $60.00 I saw it can be used every day. Doesn't a horse need acids to break down food? WOuldnt the calcium and magnesium actually block nutrient absorption if used over a long period of time? I bet this product would be awesome to use on race day or for nervous horses when hauling. Anyone else use it every day? I use it everyday. Double dose race days or hauling. It creates a barrier in the stomach to buffer acids How does this create mucosal lining, as the product doesn't say it does, if you are a dealer that can be interpreted at false advertising. All I see is a stomach soother. I would like to see the research on the long term use, physically and physiologically, including serum calcium levels (can be detrimental to cardiac output if the ca levels are above the normal range ) I guess u could consider it a stomach soother. It's not an acid blocker like the rx meds are. I personally take rx meds for acid.. and have had this conversation with my doctor the difference. some things will quit working if taken everyday. I have seen massive change in my horses since being on the Ulser shield. They look healthier and take things in stride without stressing. No more loose poop either. Yes I am a distributor. . Now. But I only became one to get a discount on the products I had already been buying for years.
Then I suggest going back and changing your original post
As you said it creates a mucosal lining
Unless there is scientific evidence the product does this, you are making false claims one can even say fraudulently misguiding people into buying the product. |
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Location: Georgia | cheryl makofka - 2015-03-20 5:03 PM
gagrl - 2015-03-20 1:37 PM
cheryl makofka - 2015-03-20 1:37 PM gagrl - 2015-03-19 10:16 AM FLITASTIC - 2015-03-19 10:46 AM gagrl - 2015-03-19 6:41 AM $60 for the gallon size last 1 horse up to 2 months. Use coupon code   cockk   for 10% off and free shipping! I keep all my riding horses on this as a preventative and weight. Helps with the nervous nellies too.
 Ulser Shield Ulser Shield begins to neutralize acid on contact.A mucosal protector, Magnesium and Calcium form a barrier over the mucosal lining. Calcium Carbonate reduces the acidity of the stomach and helps promote proper digestion and nutrient absorption. Polydimenthylsiloxane, an anti-gas, helps reduce trapped air in mucous, which may be associated with equine ulsers.If your horse displays poor appetite, mild to severe colic, poor condition, attitude changes and poor training performance, you may be seeing the early signs of an ulcer. Add Ulser Shield to your horses daily diet and early treatment may prevent the use of Gastro Guard. Ulser Shield is a marvelous maintenance for horses following a course of Gastro Guard.INGREDIENTS:Preservatives
Magnesium Oxide
Calcium Carbonate
Polydimethylsiloxane New Size!
Available by the quart ($20.00), half gallon ($35.00) or gallon $60.00 I saw it can be used every day. Doesn't a horse need acids to break down food? WOuldnt the calcium and magnesium actually block nutrient absorption if used over a long period of time? I bet this product would be awesome to use on race day or for nervous horses when hauling. Anyone else use it every day? I use it everyday. Double dose race days or hauling. It creates a barrier in the stomach to buffer acids How does this create mucosal lining, as the product doesn't say it does, if you are a dealer that can be interpreted at false advertising. All I see is a stomach soother. I would like to see the research on the long term use, physically and physiologically, including serum calcium levels (can be detrimental to cardiac output if the ca levels are above the normal range ) I guess u could consider it a stomach soother. It's not an acid blocker like the rx meds are. I personally take rx meds for acid.. and have had this conversation with my doctor the difference. some things will quit working if taken everyday. I have seen massive change in my horses since being on the Ulser shield. They look healthier and take things in stride without stressing. No more loose poop either. Yes I am a distributor. . Now. But I only became one to get a discount on the products I had already been buying for years.
Then I suggest going back and changing your original post
As you said it creates a mucosal lining
Unless there is scientific evidence the product does this, you are making false claims one can even say fraudulently misguiding people into buying the product.
 I understand what your trying to say... but the product does create a lining or barrier to protect the stomach. . Thats what I was trying to say. It does work. It's one if the best sellers along with the lung aid. And is affordable for the average horse person. I have used it for years. |
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| cheryl makofka - 2015-03-20 2:03 PM
gagrl - 2015-03-20 1:37 PM
cheryl makofka - 2015-03-20 1:37 PM gagrl - 2015-03-19 10:16 AM FLITASTIC - 2015-03-19 10:46 AM gagrl - 2015-03-19 6:41 AM $60 for the gallon size last 1 horse up to 2 months. Use coupon code   cockk   for 10% off and free shipping! I keep all my riding horses on this as a preventative and weight. Helps with the nervous nellies too.
 Ulser Shield Ulser Shield begins to neutralize acid on contact.A mucosal protector, Magnesium and Calcium form a barrier over the mucosal lining. Calcium Carbonate reduces the acidity of the stomach and helps promote proper digestion and nutrient absorption. Polydimenthylsiloxane, an anti-gas, helps reduce trapped air in mucous, which may be associated with equine ulsers.If your horse displays poor appetite, mild to severe colic, poor condition, attitude changes and poor training performance, you may be seeing the early signs of an ulcer. Add Ulser Shield to your horses daily diet and early treatment may prevent the use of Gastro Guard. Ulser Shield is a marvelous maintenance for horses following a course of Gastro Guard.INGREDIENTS:Preservatives
Magnesium Oxide
Calcium Carbonate
Polydimethylsiloxane New Size!
Available by the quart ($20.00), half gallon ($35.00) or gallon $60.00 I saw it can be used every day. Doesn't a horse need acids to break down food? WOuldnt the calcium and magnesium actually block nutrient absorption if used over a long period of time? I bet this product would be awesome to use on race day or for nervous horses when hauling. Anyone else use it every day? I use it everyday. Double dose race days or hauling. It creates a barrier in the stomach to buffer acids How does this create mucosal lining, as the product doesn't say it does, if you are a dealer that can be interpreted at false advertising. All I see is a stomach soother. I would like to see the research on the long term use, physically and physiologically, including serum calcium levels (can be detrimental to cardiac output if the ca levels are above the normal range ) I guess u could consider it a stomach soother. It's not an acid blocker like the rx meds are. I personally take rx meds for acid.. and have had this conversation with my doctor the difference. some things will quit working if taken everyday. I have seen massive change in my horses since being on the Ulser shield. They look healthier and take things in stride without stressing. No more loose poop either. Yes I am a distributor. . Now. But I only became one to get a discount on the products I had already been buying for years.
Then I suggest going back and changing your original post
As you said it creates a mucosal lining
Unless there is scientific evidence the product does this, you are making false claims one can even say fraudulently misguiding people into buying the product.
I don't think anyone is trying to be fraudulent. Protective lining protective barrier etc. We get the idea. I don't think for 1 minute the intent was to mislead. I have used the product off and on with great results to. But I don't use it on a daily basis. |
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Location: Wyoming | Compounded or "generic" omeprazole DOES NOT WORK. Ulcergard and gastrogard are the only treatments that cure ulcers. That's why they're so expensive. People just waste their money on these other "treatments" rather than just spending the money on the FDA approved ulcer cure.. Pricey but IT WORKS. |
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Location: MD | Since when does GastroGuard work? Hell, I have spent more money "treating" with Gastro Guard over the years, some of them for several months and still not taken care of the ulcers. |
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Location: North Dakota | FLITASTIC - 2015-03-20 3:40 PM
cavyrunsbarrels - 2015-03-20 1:28 PM
 Ok so this is a whole new, confusing world to me. Ulcer guard and GastroGuard are brands of products for treating ulcers. Omeprazole is the medicine inside them in varying amounts? Am I right?
Omeprazole is the active ingredient in Gastroguard/Ulcerguard. Ulcerguard and gastroguard are made by the same company, and are IDENTICAL to one another. Only difference is ulcerguard is labeled to be given in 1/4 tube doses and gastroguard is labeled for 1 complete tube daily to TREAT ulcers. Gastro (1/4 dose ) prevents them. You technically need a vets prescription to give your horse the ENTIRE tube at once ( Gastroguard ). Hope that helps!
 Ok thanks that makes sense. |
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Location: North Dakota | WrapSnap - 2015-03-20 11:06 PM
Since when does GastroGuard work? Hell, I have spent more money "treating" with Gastro Guard over the years, some of them for several months and still not taken care of the ulcers.
 What do you prefer then? |
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I AM being nice
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Location: MD | cavyrunsbarrels - 2015-03-21 12:55 AM
WrapSnap - 2015-03-20 11:06 PM
Since when does GastroGuard work? Hell, I have spent more money "treating" with Gastro Guard over the years, some of them for several months and still not taken care of the ulcers.
 What do you prefer then?
In all honesty, I've had better results from Oxy Ulcer and a proper feeding program than anything. |
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Location: North Dakota | WrapSnap - 2015-03-21 8:06 AM
cavyrunsbarrels - 2015-03-21 12:55 AM
WrapSnap - 2015-03-20 11:06 PM
Since when does GastroGuard work? Hell, I have spent more money "treating" with Gastro Guard over the years, some of them for several months and still not taken care of the ulcers.
 What do you prefer then?
In all honesty, I've had better results from Oxy Ulcer and a proper feeding program than anything.
 Ok. Cool cool. Lots of things to research. |
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Location: North Dakota | WrapSnap - 2015-03-20 11:06 PM Since when does GastroGuard work? Hell, I have spent more money "treating" with Gastro Guard over the years, some of them for several months and still not taken care of the ulcers.
Did your horse have hindgut acidosis? |
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They just removed these from their website :(  |
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| babiemox - 2015-03-23 1:59 PM
They just removed these from their website : (
Dr. Ford sales a compounded kind we have had success with and its reasonably priced. |
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| cuckleburr - 2015-03-19 12:10 PM
FLITASTIC - 2015-03-19 10:46 AM gagrl - 2015-03-19 6:41 AM $60 for the gallon size last 1 horse up to 2 months. Use coupon code   cockk   for 10% off and free shipping! I keep all my riding horses on this as a preventative and weight. Helps with the nervous nellies too.
 Ulser Shield
Ulser Shield begins to neutralize acid on contact.
A mucosal protector, Magnesium and Calcium form a barrier over the mucosal lining. Calcium Carbonate reduces the acidity of the stomach and helps promote proper digestion and nutrient absorption. Polydimenthylsiloxane, an anti-gas, helps reduce trapped air in mucous, which may be associated with equine ulsers.
If your horse displays poor appetite, mild to severe colic, poor condition, attitude changes and poor training performance, you may be seeing the early signs of an ulcer. Add Ulser Shield to your horses daily diet and early treatment may prevent the use of Gastro Guard. Ulser Shield is a marvelous maintenance for horses following a course of Gastro Guard.
INGREDIENTS:
Preservatives
Magnesium Oxide
Calcium Carbonate
Polydimethylsiloxane
New Size!
Available by the quart ($20.00), half gallon ($35.00) or gallon $60.00 I saw it can be used every day. Doesn't a horse need acids to break down food? WOuldnt the calcium and magnesium actually block nutrient absorption if used over a long period of time? I bet this product would be awesome to use on race day or for nervous horses when hauling. Anyone else use it every day?
I use this on 3 head of horses and it works GREAT! I had one gelding who was scoped and was confirmed for ulcers we used this product after he did the treatment period of omeprazole . Now we have 3 horses on this and we give them it every day and they look and act WONDERFUL. It was recommended to me by two different vets. |
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| EmtRoper - 2015-03-23 12:31 PM
cuckleburr - 2015-03-19 12:10 PM
FLITASTIC - 2015-03-19 10:46 AM gagrl - 2015-03-19 6:41 AM $60 for the gallon size last 1 horse up to 2 months. Use coupon code   cockk   for 10% off and free shipping! I keep all my riding horses on this as a preventative and weight. Helps with the nervous nellies too.
 Ulser Shield
Ulser Shield begins to neutralize acid on contact.
A mucosal protector, Magnesium and Calcium form a barrier over the mucosal lining. Calcium Carbonate reduces the acidity of the stomach and helps promote proper digestion and nutrient absorption. Polydimenthylsiloxane, an anti-gas, helps reduce trapped air in mucous, which may be associated with equine ulsers.
If your horse displays poor appetite, mild to severe colic, poor condition, attitude changes and poor training performance, you may be seeing the early signs of an ulcer. Add Ulser Shield to your horses daily diet and early treatment may prevent the use of Gastro Guard. Ulser Shield is a marvelous maintenance for horses following a course of Gastro Guard.
INGREDIENTS:
Preservatives
Magnesium Oxide
Calcium Carbonate
Polydimethylsiloxane
New Size!
Available by the quart ($20.00), half gallon ($35.00) or gallon $60.00 I saw it can be used every day. Doesn't a horse need acids to break down food? WOuldnt the calcium and magnesium actually block nutrient absorption if used over a long period of time? I bet this product would be awesome to use on race day or for nervous horses when hauling. Anyone else use it every day?
I use this on 3 head of horses and it works GREAT! I had one gelding who was scoped and was confirmed for ulcers we used this product after he did the treatment period of omeprazole . Now we have 3 horses on this and we give them it every day and they look and act WONDERFUL. It was recommended to me by two different vets.
Awesome to know! And its very reasonably priced. |
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| babiemox - 2015-03-23 12:59 PM They just removed these from their website : (
I emailed her and they are doing some site maintenance about how it will be ordered from now on, but will be back up in a few days. You can still call and order or the email is at the bottom of the website and order that way. |
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Red Bull Agressive
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Location: North Dakota | Ok guys, what about Oxy-Max? I just can't decide! There are so many options out there! THE would be affordable and comes highly recommended (MM special blend) but I have never gotten my horse to eat powders and my barn will be feeding him so no adding water or juice or anything. It's gotta be dump-n-go. I ordered the Omeprazole from Douglas because I can NOT afford $1000 a month for Gastroguard. But obviously that is just for treatment/extra high stress times. I am not impressed with the SmartGut products but there are some other neat ones at SmartPak. But I saw the Oxy-Max which is a pellet (yay!) and covers ulcers, joints, and lungs, which are my 3 main concerns with this particular horse. Any opinions on it? Do I still need to give a multi vitamin supplement? He isn't on a complete feed. |
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