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Embryo flushing and surrogate mares. Explain?

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classicpotatochip
Reg. Mar 2011
Posted 2015-03-27 12:50 PM
Subject: RE: Embryo flushing and surrogate mares. Explain?



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ThreeCorners - 2015-03-26 10:22 PM

You have to factor in the recipient mare. The recipient mare has to be in sync heat cycle wise for the embryo transfere to be sucessful so the repro facility will like to have 3 mares to work with on timing. The one who's exact is the winner of the transfere. You are looking at about $5000 by the time it's all said and done. Plus your normal stallion  shipping fee's and stud fee. The flush the embryo at 8 days.

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classicpotatochip
Reg. Mar 2011
Posted 2015-03-27 12:51 PM
Subject: RE: Embryo flushing and surrogate mares. Explain?



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luckygirl04 - 2015-03-27 2:29 AM

HCHorses - 2015-03-26 8:16 PM

What approximately does this cost? Not the stud fee or the recip mare fee, but the charge to flush the egg from your mare and implant it into the recip are. I'm sure most vets charge different prices but on average how much? Like a couple hundred or more?

Basically you breed your mare (you pay stud fee/shipping fees ect whatever that is) your mare is in foal for roughly 7-10 days, they flush the embryo(s) with sterile saline solution, the embryos and some of the saline catch in a cup with a filter, the vet then searches for the embryo in a microscope, the vet puts the embryo with more solution in another tube after cleaning it, then transfer the embryo into a recipient mare that is on the exact same heat cycle as you mare...and the embryo continues to grow. Embryos are rated on a scale of 1-5 (5 being the worest) . Flush and breeding costs about $450, and recipient costs about $1500, for me it's worth it because the only Mares I have I also run at the rodeos and I can continue to run them while the embryo develops in the recipient mare for the remainder of gestation. I didn't notice any pain or discomfort while they flush the embryos and my mare has been completely fine afterwards. So I see it as essentially for an extra 1500 im getting a very nicely bred foal without having to stop riding my mare, minus that first week :) it's pretty awesome what science can do.

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horsepoor1
Reg. Nov 2008
Posted 2015-03-27 12:53 PM
Subject: RE: Embryo flushing and surrogate mares. Explain?



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casualdust07 - 2015-03-27 11:55 AM

luckygirl04 - 2015-03-27 2:34 AM

komet. - 2015-03-26 8:21 PM

LRQHS - 2015-03-26 5:25 PM

Mare and stallion mate and make a baby. Embryo is "flushed" out and reinserted in to a recepient mare. She carries the foal. 

In cows they give them shots to get several ovulations so they can flush multiple embryos in one flush. Is it the same with mares?

Yes, it is true you can get multiple embryos in horses, but for the most part you are going to get 2 embryos, if not one at the time of the flush. All you need is one:) it just has to survive the transfer and not be rejected by the recipient mare :)

what Komet is talking about is super ovulating cows, where they will produce 4-8+ embryos in one cycle.

We do NOT superovulate horses!! DO NOT!

You *can* get multiple embryos out of a flush but that is just the process of the mare double ovulating.

we super ovulate mares at work all the time.....
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caboy61
Reg. Jul 2011
Posted 2015-03-27 2:09 PM
Subject: RE: Embryo flushing and surrogate mares. Explain?


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astreakinchic - 2015-03-27 7:47 AM

luckygirl04 - 2015-03-27 3:29 AM

HCHorses - 2015-03-26 8:16 PM

What approximately does this cost? Not the stud fee or the recip mare fee, but the charge to flush the egg from your mare and implant it into the recip are. I'm sure most vets charge different prices but on average how much? Like a couple hundred or more?

Basically you breed your mare (you pay stud fee/shipping fees ect whatever that is) your mare is in foal for roughly 7-10 days, they flush the embryo(s) with sterile saline solution, the embryos and some of the saline catch in a cup with a filter, the vet then searches for the embryo in a microscope, the vet puts the embryo with more solution in another tube after cleaning it, then transfer the embryo into a recipient mare that is on the exact same heat cycle as you mare...and the embryo continues to grow. Embryos are rated on a scale of 1-5 (5 being the worest) . Flush and breeding costs about $450, and recipient costs about $1500, for me it's worth it because the only Mares I have I also run at the rodeos and I can continue to run them while the embryo develops in the recipient mare for the remainder of gestation. I didn't notice any pain or discomfort while they flush the embryos and my mare has been completely fine afterwards. So I see it as essentially for an extra 1500 im getting a very nicely bred foal without having to stop riding my mare, minus that first week :) it's pretty awesome what science can do.

where in the world do you pay these prices at?! I wanna move there lol

Call Royal Vista Southwest , the best deal going, AND a live foal guarantee
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kmcsunshine
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Posted 2015-03-27 7:36 PM
Subject: RE: Embryo flushing and surrogate mares. Explain?



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I spent over $10,000 and never got an embryo.  Was using one of the top vets in the nation.  Sometimes it doesn't work... 
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LRQHS
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Posted 2015-03-28 11:43 AM
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Ummmm, why am I not your hero too??? You said ground zero lol. I had more to offer, but you said GROUND ZERO  
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classicpotatochip
Reg. Mar 2011
Posted 2015-03-28 12:56 PM
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LRQHS - 2015-03-28 11:43 AM

Ummmm, why am I not your hero too??? You said ground zero lol. I had more to offer, but you said GROUND ZERO  

KILLIN' ME!!!!!
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LRQHS
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classicpotatochip - 2015-03-28 12:56 PM
LRQHS - 2015-03-28 11:43 AM Ummmm, why am I not your hero too??? You said ground zero lol. I had more to offer, but you said GROUND ZERO  
KILLIN' ME!!!!!

I just want to be your hero.....what do I need to do??? 
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classicpotatochip
Reg. Mar 2011
Posted 2015-03-28 3:05 PM
Subject: RE: Embryo flushing and surrogate mares. Explain?



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LRQHS - 2015-03-28 1:08 PM

classicpotatochip - 2015-03-28 12:56 PM
LRQHS - 2015-03-28 11:43 AM Ummmm, why am I not your hero too??? You said ground zero lol. I had more to offer, but you said GROUND ZERO  
KILLIN' ME!!!!!

I just want to be your hero.....what do I need to do??? 

I'll think of a new topic and you can wow! me and be my best hero! Lol lol
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LRQHS
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Posted 2015-03-28 3:09 PM
Subject: RE: Embryo flushing and surrogate mares. Explain?


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classicpotatochip - 2015-03-28 3:05 PM
LRQHS - 2015-03-28 1:08 PM
classicpotatochip - 2015-03-28 12:56 PM
LRQHS - 2015-03-28 11:43 AM Ummmm, why am I not your hero too??? You said ground zero lol. I had more to offer, but you said GROUND ZERO  
KILLIN' ME!!!!!
I just want to be your hero.....what do I need to do??? 
I'll think of a new topic and you can wow! me and be my best hero! Lol lol

Ok, fine, I'll do my best  
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