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Location: Dearing, GA | I'm at a loss with this colt I'm working with. I'm trying to teach him rollbacks, but he just can't seem to get it. He can move his front and his rear independently, but cannot grasp the crossing of the front end and keeping his butt stationary rollback style. We're working along the fence, and I've watched Sherry Cervi and Clinton Anderson do it, but can't replicate it. Any advice? |
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| What are you doing to teach him and what is he doing that is wrong? Do you have a video? |
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Location: Dearing, GA | CallMeSkidmark - 2015-06-04 10:02 AM What are you doing to teach him and what is he doing that is wrong? Do you have a video?
Right now I've got us walking one horse length away from the fence line. When I'm ready to roll back, I sit deep, push with my inside leg to turn him towards the fence, then follow through with my hands to guide his nose. I don't have a video at the moment. Right now, what he's doing wrong is making it a U-turn motion and not sitting on his but and crossing/moving his front end only. |
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| Does he know how to pivot yet? A rollback requires forward motion to shift weight to the hindquarters and accelerate out of the turn. If he already knows how to pivot, then try hustling him out of the turn to get him to shift weight to hindquarters. Hard to say without seeing what's going on. |
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Location: Dearing, GA | CallMeSkidmark - 2015-06-04 10:20 AM Does he know how to pivot yet? A rollback requires forward motion to shift weight to the hindquarters and accelerate out of the turn. If he already knows how to pivot, then try hustling him out of the turn to get him to shift weight to hindquarters. Hard to say without seeing what's going on.
I'll try to get a video. He can pivot fairly well off the fence, but that's still a new concept to him, too. |
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| An excellent video on teaching rollbacks. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V8NqQhnDgE8 |
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| I always teach my horses to pivot and be able to complete a slow spin with only moving their hind foot twice.
I do this before I start rollbacks, as they need the foundation and the feel to learn how to do a roll back.
Try and watch some reining working cow horse people start colts they do a good job getting the fundamentals down
Also I don't teach pivots or turn around a off of a fence as I find the fence becomes a crutch for the horse
Edited by cheryl makofka 2015-06-04 11:02 AM
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Location: 100 miles from Nowhere, AR | I start off spiraling down until they plant the inside hind and walk around it. When they have that down, I teach them to spiral down and back out in a counter-arc, moving off the outside rein and leg. Then I teach them half circles to get the pushing off part. Those are building blocks for a roll back, which I do teach, but I don't overemphasize it. |
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Location: IL | My OTTB mare struggled with rollbacks when I first introduced them to her. She did the same thing, wanted to do more of a turn rather than rocking back and crossing the front over. Not sure if you've done this, but what worked for me/her was I would approach where I wanted the rollback to occur. I would sit deep, stop her, then ask her to back up with energy which helped her really get rocked back and on her hind end. When I felt her weight shift to the hind, I would then ask her to cross over in the front and then hustle her out of it. We did this for about a week at the walk and then gradually progressed to the trot and then to the lope. As she started figuring it out I was able to completely phase out the backing. When she first started, without the backing, she just didn't understand what was being asked of her and would think I just wanted her to turn. But now all I have to do to get her to roll back is to sit deep and exhale loudly and she will rollback whether we're along the fence or not lol. Guess that's something I should probably give someone a heads up about if someone other than me rides her. lol
Edited by TACKyPaints 2015-06-04 1:22 PM
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