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| Front endy horses need a lot if stopping and backing up. If they are too bendy try not riding in circles, ride in a line turn like in a couple of steps. |
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| daisycake123 - 2015-04-24 7:59 PM
Front endy horses need a lot if stopping and backing up. If they are too bendy try not riding in circles, ride in a line turn like in a couple of steps.
Used to do stopping and backing up at a barrel and found that it created and caused more issues than teaching a horse to carry itself through a turn with forward motion. Especially for a horse like her who is extremely feely and very well broke. Perhaps it's my background or living with a reining trainer, but I carry the mentality that forward fixes everything.
I WILL, though, make a downward transition and yield her hindquarters about 3 strides before the first barrel, really trying to encourage her to engage her rear for the turn instead of turning with her shoulder. |
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| I have a horse that was started wrong with no foundation . Super nice 1 d horse but she swings her hindquarters terribly ! Especially on the first . She drops her front end & swings her butt.. Doesn't stay engaged at all. Ive tried to get her to stop for over a year now with no luck :( I'm getting so discouraged with it . She's always inconsistent on turning her first nice it wide bc of it . I've tried a lot & have yet to find something that works . She's ran from a 4 yr old to 7 the wrong way .. She's 8 now so it's a tough habit to break . Any other options to try ? Does anyone think she's even fixable at this point ? |
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| CallMeSkidmark - 2015-04-24 11:59 AM
This was her last run. Its been a long time, but you can see after the second, especially, she steps out into that outside lead and gets really strung out at the third barrel.
https://youtu.be/PVTJD8jlMz4
Don't look front end-y to me. Just looks like she gets in the ground a lot. |
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| Also, i like to do my circles like straight lines and a two step turn. Like a square. Straight line a two step turn and straight line two steo turn. Realy helped my gelding. Also, did a lot of chris cox circles with the rear kicked out and then load on rear an turn the outher way get them supple in tye hip, not the neck. After we did this made sense. Got a 5 year old mare did not want to back, actuallyhas gotton worse found out dont pull both reins when backing, built very nice but wants to pull with her face, just sea saw reins will be very responsive, and mare is very softin her body but wants to noodle her neck, had to stiffin her body, also wants to be front endy. She cant lope/stop and back up, how can she rate a barrel. Also, cant lope a circle. |
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Location: Oklahoma | Since you say nothing is physically wrong. She needs to start her turn earlier. If she was actually at the barrel when the makes her move, not a stride behind it, you could make up some time.
Even in the video of you loping around the single barrel something looks off. Have you had someone else get on her and "feel" how she moves? Going at a lope, you should be able to get her to roll back, when you ask.
Maybe try a mullen mouth bit or a hackamore. |
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