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americanpride08
Reg. May 2008
Posted 2015-04-27 9:36 PM
Subject: Blank saddles


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So, I don't know if people even do this. But are there any companies that will make a saddle to your size specifications and leave all the tooling and conchos off?

My cousin is an AMAZING artist, and offered to tool a saddle for me, in a scrapbook fashion of my life. I thought it would be really awesome and it would probably save me money if they made saddles blank like that. He has all the equipment needed to stamp one, add conchos ect... I was just curious. =
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Southtxponygirl
Reg. Nov 2006
Posted 2015-04-27 10:03 PM
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I dont see how your cousin would beable to do the tooling, all tooling is done while the leather is still off the tree laying flat, once the tooling is done then they put the saddle together. I have seen saddles that have no tooling at all just the smooth leather.  
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EqualRanch
Reg. Jan 2015
Posted 2015-04-27 10:05 PM
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Yes ma'am, it is an option. 
Depending on what part of the saddle you want customized, you could even buy a used saddle and have tooled portions removed. 
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americanpride08
Reg. May 2008
Posted 2015-04-27 10:10 PM
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Southtxponygirl - 2015-04-27 10:03 PM I dont see how your cousin would beable to do the tooling, all tooling is done while the leather is still off the tree laying flat, once the tooling is done then they put the saddle together. I have seen saddles that have no tooling at all just the smooth leather.  

well as  long as the leather wasn't rubbed with a finish it strain, it should be simple I would think.? I mean you would just lightly wet the leather and tooling it then staining and finish it. I would think.?? Just from what I've seen of tooling of course, I'm no expert by any means.
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Southtxponygirl
Reg. Nov 2006
Posted 2015-04-27 10:22 PM
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americanpride08 - 2015-04-27 10:10 PM
Southtxponygirl - 2015-04-27 10:03 PM I dont see how your cousin would beable to do the tooling, all tooling is done while the leather is still off the tree laying flat, once the tooling is done then they put the saddle together. I have seen saddles that have no tooling at all just the smooth leather.  
well as  long as the leather wasn't rubbed with a finish it strain, it should be simple I would think.? I mean you would just lightly wet the leather and tooling it then staining and finish it. I would think.?? Just from what I've seen of tooling of course, I'm no expert by any means.
LOL, hey I would think it can be done this way but I dont think the tooling would be as deep, but I bet he could do it, maybe ....See if you can talk to a custom saddle maker and pick their brain and see how it could be done if it can be done.

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Southtxponygirl
Reg. Nov 2006
Posted 2015-04-27 10:24 PM
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Pm NJJ her husband is a saddle maker, maybe she could help you out and answer your question better them me, I just may be wrong all the way around.   
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OhMax
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Posted 2015-04-27 10:27 PM
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If he's doing more carving maybe... Stamps require a pretty good whack for 2 with a mallet and are usually done on a stone slab to really set the tooling. There would be parts of the saddle you couldn't get to with the right angle on a tool as well.


You might talk to a custom saddle maker about sending you the blanks, having them tooled, and then sending back to be assembled? No idea wha that would cost, of course depends on the maker. I would start with smaller custom makers...
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NJJ
Reg. Jul 2006
Posted 2015-04-28 9:57 AM
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OhMax - 2015-04-27 10:27 PM If he's doing more carving maybe... Stamps require a pretty good whack for 2 with a mallet and are usually done on a stone slab to really set the tooling. There would be parts of the saddle you couldn't get to with the right angle on a tool as well. You might talk to a custom saddle maker about sending you the blanks, having them tooled, and then sending back to be assembled? No idea wha that would cost, of course depends on the maker. I would start with smaller custom makers...
^^^^ This was pretty much what I was going to tell the OP. Can it be done? Sure???......Will it be exceptionally hard to do....YES! The fenders would be the easiest since they can be removed.

Most leather is wet pretty good and then carved, tooled and stamped on a VERY hard surface (usually marble slab). Being able to rotate the leather and stamp deeply would be a problem.

You might want to contact a local saddlemaker but I wouldn't be optimistic that they would work with you because it is easy to "stretch" the leather while tooling.  
 


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americanpride08
Reg. May 2008
Posted 2015-04-28 11:32 AM
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NJJ - 2015-04-28 9:57 AM
OhMax - 2015-04-27 10:27 PM If he's doing more carving maybe... Stamps require a pretty good whack for 2 with a mallet and are usually done on a stone slab to really set the tooling. There would be parts of the saddle you couldn't get to with the right angle on a tool as well. You might talk to a custom saddle maker about sending you the blanks, having them tooled, and then sending back to be assembled? No idea wha that would cost, of course depends on the maker. I would start with smaller custom makers...
^^^^ This was pretty much what I was going to tell the OP. Can it be done? Sure???......Will it be exceptionally hard to do....YES! The fenders would be the easiest since they can be removed.



Most leather is wet pretty good and then carved, tooled and stamped on a VERY hard surface (usually marble slab). Being able to rotate the leather and stamp deeply would be a problem.



You might want to contact a local saddlemaker but I wouldn't be optimistic that they would work with you because it is easy to "stretch" the leather while tooling.  

 

 So really I should just look into buying a plain jane saddle and just have him tool fenders and replace those? 

The conchos are easy to replace/add correct??
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Southtxponygirl
Reg. Nov 2006
Posted 2015-04-28 12:05 PM
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americanpride08 - 2015-04-28 11:32 AM

NJJ - 2015-04-28 9:57 AM
OhMax - 2015-04-27 10:27 PM If he's doing more carving maybe... Stamps require a pretty good whack for 2 with a mallet and are usually done on a stone slab to really set the tooling. There would be parts of the saddle you couldn't get to with the right angle on a tool as well. You might talk to a custom saddle maker about sending you the blanks, having them tooled, and then sending back to be assembled? No idea wha that would cost, of course depends on the maker. I would start with smaller custom makers...
^^^^ This was pretty much what I was going to tell the OP.Β Can it be done? Sure???......Will it be exceptionally hard to do....YES! The fenders would be the easiest since they can be removed.



Most leather is wet pretty good and then carved, tooled and stamped on a VERY hard surface (usually marble slab). Being able to rotate the leather and stamp deeply would be a problem.



You might want to contact a local saddlemaker but I wouldn't be optimistic that they would work with you because it is easy to "stretch" the leather while tooling. Β 

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Β So really I should just look into buying a plain jane saddle and just have him tool fenders and replace those?Β 

The conchos are easy to replace/add correct??

Conchos are super easy, I always change out if I dont like them..
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IRunOnFaith
Reg. Dec 2009
Posted 2015-04-28 12:13 PM
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It wouldn't look right to me at all if you tooled it after it was assembled in my opinion.

Any saddle maker can make what's called a slick out saddle. You would just have to tell them no finish, no oil, etc. But I would be careful telling them your cousin was going to tool it. They may not want their name on a saddle that's being tooled after assembly.

Here is a video of how Corriente makes their saddles. Watch it. You'll understnad the tooling process better. https://corrientesaddleco.com/HOW_WE_MAKE_OUR_SADDLES.html 
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EqualRanch
Reg. Jan 2015
Posted 2015-04-28 2:59 PM
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IRunOnFaith - 2015-04-28 12:13 PM



Any saddle maker can make what's called a slick out saddle. You would just have to tell them no finish, no oil, etc. But I would be careful telling them your cousin was going to tool it. They may not want their name on a saddle that's being tooled after assembly.

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That's a good point! I wouldn't offer an explanation to why you want the saddle made the way you do.

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americanpride08
Reg. May 2008
Posted 2015-04-28 3:04 PM
Subject: RE: Blank saddles


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Thanks! I'm going to look into this some more. =)

Lol maybe this is a stupid question, and pretty unrelated. but are there saddle makers that set up payment plans. Like a contract, where you pay on the saddle and until it's paid off they dont make it to you. If I'm going to do something like this, I want a GOOD saddle. But 1000-4000 cash out of pocket is hard right now for me to come up with, though a payment plan I could do. Worst case scenerio I'll save for a while. But I was just curious.
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IRunOnFaith
Reg. Dec 2009
Posted 2015-04-28 3:12 PM
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americanpride08 - 2015-04-28 3:04 PM Thanks! I'm going to look into this some more. =)

Lol maybe this is a stupid question, and pretty unrelated. but are there saddle makers that set up payment plans. Like a contract, where you pay on the saddle and until it's paid off they dont make it to you. If I'm going to do something like this, I want a GOOD saddle. But 1000-4000 cash out of pocket is hard right now for me to come up with, though a payment plan I could do. Worst case scenerio I'll save for a while. But I was just curious.
Teskey's offers layaway on any saddle. Any custom saddle in any brand you can pay on until it is finished. It usually take 6-8 weeks to get a custom made saddle in depending on how busy the shops are.  
wanted to add that their layaway program is for 90 days with 10% down I believe. 


Edited by IRunOnFaith 2015-04-28 3:14 PM
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